[슈퍼파이트] 팬택 이윤열 인터뷰, "지금의 목표는 황금마우스를 잡는 것이다" [Superfight] Pantech Lee Yoonyeol Interview, "My imminent objective is to capture the Golden Mouse"
-3대0 완승을 거뒀다. 이런 스코어를 예상했나. ▶전혀 예상하지 못했다. 스코어는 3대0이지만 경기에서는 매번 어려웠다. 매 경기마다 불리한 순간이 많았다. 3경기가 끝났을 때 1대2가 되었어도 전혀 어색하지 않았을 것이다. 어렵게 승리했기 때문에 더욱 기쁘다. 내가 오늘 컨디션이 좋았다. -You won with a perfect score of 3:0. Did you predict this outcome. ▶I didn't expect this at all. The set score turned out to be 3:0, but the matches themselves were painstaking every step of the way. In every match, there were many incidences where I was at a disadvantage. If it came out to be 1:2 after the third match, it would not have been any more unfitting than the actual set score. I am more happy to win in spite of all these obstacles. I was in a good condition.
-스타리그 결승을 앞두고 준비가 쉽지 않았을텐데. ▶부담은 됐다. 이 전에 서바이버 경기도 있어 프로토스전을 연달아 하게 됐다. 눈 앞에 닥친 경기만 준비하겠다는 마음으로 오늘 경기를 준비했다. 스타리그 결승은 아직까지 준비하지 않았다. 이제부터 준비할 생각이다. -It must have not been easy (to prepare for Superfight) with the upcoming Starleague finals. ▶I did feel burdened. There also was Survivor League matches a few days ago; fighting Protoss consecutively. I prepared for this match with the determination that I will be ready for whatever comes next. I have not yet practiced for the Starleague finals. I will start from now.
-중간 전투에서는 많이 패했다. ▶박정석 선수가 내 진출 타이밍이나 러시루트 등을 많이 연구한 것 같다. 그래서 패한 전투에 무리하게 매달리지 않고 참는 쪽을 선택했다. -You were defeated in battles many times during the match. ▶It seemed as if Park Jungseok paid much attention to my initiative timings, and attack routes. After realizing that, I did not let myself be hung over the lost battles and chose to take patience.
-슈퍼파이트 3회에 연달아 출전하는 것도 가능하다. ▶3회에도 꼭 출전하고 싶다. 지금의 내 목표는 황금마우스를 잡는 것이다. 황금마우스를 따낸다면 팬들도 내 부활을 믿어주지 않을까 한다. 상대 선수라면 마재윤 선수와 붙고 싶은 마음이 크지만 (심)소명이의 우승도 바란다. 딜레마다. -It is possible for you to participate in the third Superfight consecutively. ▶I most certainly want to play in the third one also. My imminent objective is to capture the Golden Mouse. I think the fans will finally believe in my return(resurrection, literally translated) if I secure the Golden Mouse. I very much hope to fight Ma Jaeyoon(Savior), but at the same time want Somyoung(Silver) to win the league. It's a dilemma.
-스타리그까지 우승한다면 단시간에 최고 상금을 거머쥘 수도 있다. ▶상금이나 금액적인 측면은 전혀 생각하지 않고 있다. 내가 지금 가장 중요하게 여기는 것은 명예다. 몇 천만원의 상금보다 3회 우승을 상징하는 황금마우스가 더욱 욕심나는 것도 그런 이유다. -Winning also the Starleague will net you largest sum of prize money in short period. ▶I am not one bit considering the prize money, or the fiscal aspects(of the league). The most important part I am focusing on is, the honor. That is why I am eager to secure the Golden Mouse representing a three time champion, than couple of ten thousands of prize money.
▶KTF 박정석 = 이윤열 선수가 전성기 때의 기량을 되찾은 것 같다. 프로이기 때문에 경기 결과가 중요하게 여겨질 수밖에 없다. 오늘 패배를 약으로 삼고 앞으로 있을 예선전을 준비하겠다. ▶KTF Park Jungseok = Lee Yoonyeol has reestablished the state of his gameplay skill to that of the former period of his very peak. Being a pro, there is no denying the result of the match is what matters at the end. I will accept today's defeat as a specific(to my future career), and prepare for the upcoming preliminaries.
-You were defeated in battles many times during the match. ▶It seemed as if Park Jungseok paid much attention to my initiative timings, and attack routes. After realizing that, I did not let myself be hung over the lost battles and chose to take patience.
translation: i decided to turtle 200/200 3/3 googgogo -_-;;
if he wins OSL finals i will definitely believe in his ascension
-You were defeated in battles many times during the match. ▶It seemed as if Park Jungseok paid much attention to my initiative timings, and attack routes. After realizing that, I did not let myself be hung over the lost battles and chose to take patience.
translation: i decided to turtle 200/200 3/3 googgogo -_-;;
if he wins OSL finals i will definitely believe in his ascension
I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
He's right back to where he was before his slump, the way he played game 2 was Nada at his very best (the macro, the little things like the emp and the 4 vulture drop near the end). Whether that is enough to take down Savior remains to be seen however.
I think many of you guys are forgetting that *Midas*, never known as the best tvz, took Savior to 5 games and almost won 3-1. What I'm saying is Savior is somewhat overrated in this forum. Even if he's the best player right now (and I think he is), that doesn't mean Nada can't beat him in a bo5 - with any final score.
On November 11 2006 01:52 ChApFoU wrote: Anytime will have a hard time :p. Not anyone can own Reach like that.
I'm still giving Anytime a better-than-50% chance of taking the OSL. Not to offend any fans, but Anytime is a much, much smarter player than Reach, and his deep strategy and mindgame-oriented style, coupled with a good-enough micro and macro, is Nada's worst nightmare. Of course anything can happen though...
[QUOTE]On November 11 2006 04:47 HnR)hT wrote: [QUOTE]On November 11 2006 01:52 ChApFoU wrote: Anytime will have a hard time :p. Not anyone can own Reach like that.[/QUOTE] Not to offend any fans, but Anytime is a much, much smarter player than Reach QUOTE]
Anytime will indeed have a hard time, but I don't understand why people put down Anytimes fundamentals, like micro and macro? He was known at first as a macro player in the new age of toss, then a player with a knack for good build orders and great execution. He's about as good as the tossplayers come with micro, macro and game sense.
That said, I can never see a toss being dominant in the same way as a terran or zerg, due to the high amounts of risk involved with this race in games. A crappy BO against a zerg or bad storms, missed scouting and you're toast. A botched attempt at breaking the terran push or failed harass and they'll can be toast as well.
that's only one reason. another reason is we don't have enough good toss, kinddom, ra reach are old schooler, only anytime is new school. it's hard to dominate other races with only your strats and executions, you need to see other people play and learn from others' games too. moreover, people who can create a new playing style are very rare only them can dominate all others.
since sAviOr win, whether Anytime or NaDa will take the OSL is not important. It's nice to see either the best new school toss vs the best new school zerg, or the dominationg 2nd gen terran vs the best zerg atm. i'd like to see Anytime vs sAviOr better though, coz the Genius has faced the Maestro many times
On November 11 2006 09:15 Orome wrote: Suddenly Anytime's the best new school toss again. ; )
Well, when wasn't he? I always insisted that the people who think Pusan is better are wrong. SO1 by sheer coincidence presented an ideal scenario for comparing Anytime and Pusan. Let's have a brief recap. In the challenge league leading up to SO1, Pusan was in playoffs with Rock and Boxer and lost. Anytime won his admittedly easier bracket and then beat Rock in the finals. Then, in the actual starleague, Pusan and Anytime happened to play many of the same players. The results were as follows: Pusan went 0-1 with Xellos, 2-3 with Boxer, and 2-3 with Iloveoov; Anytime went 2-1 with Xellos, 3-2 with Boxer, and 3-2 with Iloveoov (including the game Anytime lost in the group round when it didn't really matter since he was already qualified).
The one argument in Pusan's favor (based on actual results and not subjective appraisals like "he has really good macro!!") is that he has since reached top 3 in a starleague (before falling into a slump himself). If you ask me, consecutive #4 and #3 isn't even close to winning the entire thing once. So even if you don't factor this current OSL into account, it is very hard to argue that Pusan is *historically* a better player than Anytime.
Now, obviously nobody will seriously argue that Pusan is doing better than Anytime right now so if you want to deny that Anytime is the best "new school toss" you really don't have a lot to go on.
Agreed. Plus Anytime's games were far cooler to watch subjectively. He did objectively bring a few new BO's into the thing, and this OSL run is a run through monsters also. DTs vs Yellow? Double Robo Oov? Pusan can't touch that.
Plus... Anytime's Zealots > Pusans... Just maybe not in #
Hmm, I'm going to root for Anytime and probably vote anytime. But, Nada is practicings 17 hours a day! It seems he hasnt just renewed his drive but increased it a lot. I wouldnt mind Nada winning however, as Nada vs Saviour would be much better superfight I think.
Its seems that NaDa is preparing really well...because to defeat Reach like that 3:0...its just awesome... I just hope that AnyTime[gm] makes history again...because one of the unforgettable moments i have of Starcraft...is the So1 Starleague 2005...from the beginning to his great final...
On November 11 2006 04:42 HnR)hT wrote: I think many of you guys are forgetting that *Midas*, never known as the best tvz, took Savior to 5 games and almost won 3-1. What I'm saying is Savior is somewhat overrated in this forum. Even if he's the best player right now (and I think he is), that doesn't mean Nada can't beat him in a bo5 - with any final score.
But Savior did win. And the fact remains that Savior has an even or better record against every single major Terran he's played.
On November 11 2006 02:05 Mortality wrote: I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
Savior still has a ways to go before he can be considered in the same all-time league as NaDa.
But yeah, AnyTime is a smarter player than Reach. And he has a better micro-game as well (since he can pull off such risky tactics with dark templars). And on the macro-sense, could very well be on the same level (as he as shown time and time again, since SO1 Starleague)
On November 11 2006 02:05 Mortality wrote: I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
Savior still has a ways to go before he can be considered in the same all-time league as NaDa.
But yeah, AnyTime is a smarter player than Reach. And he has a better micro-game as well (since he can pull off such risky tactics with dark templars). And on the macro-sense, could very well be on the same level (as he as shown time and time again, since SO1 Starleague)
Are you kidding? I have already clarified the difference between "right now" and "all-time" so your argument has absolutely zero ground to stand on. Savior has been a more dominant force in progaming than NaDa for almost 2 years. Unless NaDa can prove me otherwise by beating Savior, then Savior is the stronger gamer right now.
On November 11 2006 02:05 Mortality wrote: I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
Savior still has a ways to go before he can be considered in the same all-time league as NaDa.
But yeah, AnyTime is a smarter player than Reach. And he has a better micro-game as well (since he can pull off such risky tactics with dark templars). And on the macro-sense, could very well be on the same level (as he as shown time and time again, since SO1 Starleague)
Are you kidding? I have already clarified the difference between "right now" and "all-time" so your argument has absolutely zero ground to stand on. Savior has been a more dominant force in progaming than NaDa for almost 2 years. Unless NaDa can prove me otherwise by beating Savior, then Savior is the stronger gamer right now.
It is true that savior has been more dominant these past two years than nada but you also need to look at lifetime stats and longevity. Savior just kind of came out of nowhere to win these msls and you can easily say this is the pinacle of his carreer up to this point. However, in Nada's era of dominance he achieved far more than Savior in the same amount of time.
Also Nada is like 11 or 12-0 in his last tvzs, he is an absolute monster in this matchup. When he is on fire, Nada is better than boxer and oov in tvz. No zerg is ever safe to Nada in a bo5. Remember IOPS?
On November 11 2006 02:05 Mortality wrote: I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
Savior still has a ways to go before he can be considered in the same all-time league as NaDa.
But yeah, AnyTime is a smarter player than Reach. And he has a better micro-game as well (since he can pull off such risky tactics with dark templars). And on the macro-sense, could very well be on the same level (as he as shown time and time again, since SO1 Starleague)
Are you kidding? I have already clarified the difference between "right now" and "all-time" so your argument has absolutely zero ground to stand on. Savior has been a more dominant force in progaming than NaDa for almost 2 years. Unless NaDa can prove me otherwise by beating Savior, then Savior is the stronger gamer right now.
I don't recall mentioning "right now" in what I said. No matter what happens, NaDa will still be the best all-time gamer, because Savior still does not match up to the accomplishments that NaDa has. I don't care what their status is right now.... they started in different gaming eras.
On November 11 2006 01:52 ChApFoU wrote: Anytime will have a hard time :p. Not anyone can own Reach like that.
I'm still giving Anytime a better-than-50% chance of taking the OSL. Not to offend any fans, but Anytime is a much, much smarter player than Reach, and his deep strategy and mindgame-oriented style, coupled with a good-enough micro and macro, is Nada's worst nightmare. Of course anything can happen though...
And ANytime is a match oriented player, he performs bad in random games but he's the truely pwnage when it's a big match like semi or finals. It's like a dt, comming out of nowhere and pwns ppl hard. Legend of the fall!!! Btw I hate how reach doesn't get interviewed haha, probably too ashamed. T_T Reach should joint he army or at least become a male model? ^^
On November 11 2006 21:20 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote: remember YRTGK finals? YUHHHHHH.
remember IOPS semi-finals? i think someone choked quite hard there. the msl finals were bo7 too, which is different from bo5.
yes...winning a bo7 is indeed different. its even more impressive.
im not saying hes better than nada by any means, just bringing up a result since you said no zerg is ever safe from nada in a bo5. a bo7 shouldn't disqualify that result from discussion, since its harder to win than a bo5.
On November 11 2006 09:15 Orome wrote: Suddenly Anytime's the best new school toss again. ; )
Well, when wasn't he? I always insisted that the people who think Pusan is better are wrong. SO1 by sheer coincidence presented an ideal scenario for comparing Anytime and Pusan. Let's have a brief recap. In the challenge league leading up to SO1, Pusan was in playoffs with Rock and Boxer and lost. Anytime won his admittedly easier bracket and then beat Rock in the finals. Then, in the actual starleague, Pusan and Anytime happened to play many of the same players. The results were as follows: Pusan went 0-1 with Xellos, 2-3 with Boxer, and 2-3 with Iloveoov; Anytime went 2-1 with Xellos, 3-2 with Boxer, and 3-2 with Iloveoov (including the game Anytime lost in the group round when it didn't really matter since he was already qualified).
The one argument in Pusan's favor (based on actual results and not subjective appraisals like "he has really good macro!!") is that he has since reached top 3 in a starleague (before falling into a slump himself). If you ask me, consecutive #4 and #3 isn't even close to winning the entire thing once. So even if you don't factor this current OSL into account, it is very hard to argue that Pusan is *historically* a better player than Anytime.
Now, obviously nobody will seriously argue that Pusan is doing better than Anytime right now so if you want to deny that Anytime is the best "new school toss" you really don't have a lot to go on.
that may be true. but the main reason i am a Pusan fan and not really an Anytime fan is because Pusan had lots of replays out before he was pro (a lot of them were vs midas too!). Anytime is much harder to judge in terms of skill because barely any amateur replays were released, and even fewer pro reps.
On November 11 2006 02:05 Mortality wrote: I won't believe in his ascension unless he not only captures the golden mouse but takes down Savior. Then and only then will he have proven himself to be the top gamer of the moment. Otherwise, Savior's MSL win still makes Savior the stronger force in progaming.
Winning the golden mouse will only secure NaDa's place as the all-time most dominant gamer, but all-time and right now are not the same thing.
Savior still has a ways to go before he can be considered in the same all-time league as NaDa.
But yeah, AnyTime is a smarter player than Reach. And he has a better micro-game as well (since he can pull off such risky tactics with dark templars). And on the macro-sense, could very well be on the same level (as he as shown time and time again, since SO1 Starleague)
Are you kidding? I have already clarified the difference between "right now" and "all-time" so your argument has absolutely zero ground to stand on. Savior has been a more dominant force in progaming than NaDa for almost 2 years. Unless NaDa can prove me otherwise by beating Savior, then Savior is the stronger gamer right now.
I don't recall mentioning "right now" in what I said. No matter what happens, NaDa will still be the best all-time gamer, because Savior still does not match up to the accomplishments that NaDa has. I don't care what their status is right now.... they started in different gaming eras.
Then why are you quoting me in a post where I am saying that Savior is a stronger gamer at the moment? The purpose of my post was to clarfiy what I believe NaDa must do in order to show us that he's playing "stronger" right now (hence showing he truly is in his greatest shape ever as he has been saying).
On November 11 2006 21:20 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote: remember YRTGK finals? YUHHHHHH.
remember IOPS semi-finals? i think someone choked quite hard there. the msl finals were bo7 too, which is different from bo5.
yes...winning a bo7 is indeed different. its even more impressive.
im not saying hes better than nada by any means, just bringing up a result since you said no zerg is ever safe from nada in a bo5. a bo7 shouldn't disqualify that result from discussion, since its harder to win than a bo5.
By saying no zerg is ever safe from Nada i didnt mean he will never ever lose a bo5 (or bo7 i guess) to a zerg. It just means that he is the favorite in the matchup, no matter who the zerg is (except, most would say not me, savior).
On November 11 2006 09:15 Orome wrote: Suddenly Anytime's the best new school toss again. ; )
Well, when wasn't he? I always insisted that the people who think Pusan is better are wrong. SO1 by sheer coincidence presented an ideal scenario for comparing Anytime and Pusan. Let's have a brief recap. In the challenge league leading up to SO1, Pusan was in playoffs with Rock and Boxer and lost. Anytime won his admittedly easier bracket and then beat Rock in the finals. Then, in the actual starleague, Pusan and Anytime happened to play many of the same players. The results were as follows: Pusan went 0-1 with Xellos, 2-3 with Boxer, and 2-3 with Iloveoov; Anytime went 2-1 with Xellos, 3-2 with Boxer, and 3-2 with Iloveoov (including the game Anytime lost in the group round when it didn't really matter since he was already qualified).
The one argument in Pusan's favor (based on actual results and not subjective appraisals like "he has really good macro!!") is that he has since reached top 3 in a starleague (before falling into a slump himself). If you ask me, consecutive #4 and #3 isn't even close to winning the entire thing once. So even if you don't factor this current OSL into account, it is very hard to argue that Pusan is *historically* a better player than Anytime.
Now, obviously nobody will seriously argue that Pusan is doing better than Anytime right now so if you want to deny that Anytime is the best "new school toss" you really don't have a lot to go on.
You misunderstand me. What I'm criticizing is how quickly people change their minds about players, and how certain they are of their judgement.
After Anytime won so1, he was the new hope for Protoss, best pvt in the world, etc, etc... When afterwards he went into a (very small) slump, suddenly everyone was saying he was a one-hit wonder, that he'd been lucky, that his fundamentals were lacking, you know what I'm talking about. Now everyone's acting as though they never denied him, as though it was always obvious he was the best of the three new tosses, and I find that annoying. ; )
On November 11 2006 09:15 Orome wrote: Suddenly Anytime's the best new school toss again. ; )
Well, when wasn't he? I always insisted that the people who think Pusan is better are wrong. SO1 by sheer coincidence presented an ideal scenario for comparing Anytime and Pusan. Let's have a brief recap. In the challenge league leading up to SO1, Pusan was in playoffs with Rock and Boxer and lost. Anytime won his admittedly easier bracket and then beat Rock in the finals. Then, in the actual starleague, Pusan and Anytime happened to play many of the same players. The results were as follows: Pusan went 0-1 with Xellos, 2-3 with Boxer, and 2-3 with Iloveoov; Anytime went 2-1 with Xellos, 3-2 with Boxer, and 3-2 with Iloveoov (including the game Anytime lost in the group round when it didn't really matter since he was already qualified).
The one argument in Pusan's favor (based on actual results and not subjective appraisals like "he has really good macro!!") is that he has since reached top 3 in a starleague (before falling into a slump himself). If you ask me, consecutive #4 and #3 isn't even close to winning the entire thing once. So even if you don't factor this current OSL into account, it is very hard to argue that Pusan is *historically* a better player than Anytime.
Now, obviously nobody will seriously argue that Pusan is doing better than Anytime right now so if you want to deny that Anytime is the best "new school toss" you really don't have a lot to go on.
You misunderstand me. What I'm criticizing is how quickly people change their minds about players, and how certain they are of their judgement.
After Anytime won so1, he was the new hope for Protoss, best pvt in the world, etc, etc... When afterwards he went into a (very small) slump, suddenly everyone was saying he was a one-hit wonder, that he'd been lucky, that his fundamentals were lacking, you know what I'm talking about. Now everyone's acting as though they never denied him, as though it was always obvious he was the best of the three new tosses, and I find that annoying. ; )
Well, then I agree and I too found it annoying how so many people switched from an Anytime bandwagon to a Pusan bandwagon in a flash since SO1. Remember that "toss kings" thread? Some people even argued that *Stork* was really where it was at now... But even if you read the live reports for this current OSL, a lot of people still seem to think Anytime was very lucky to beat just about anybody. For example before the Anytime vs Gorush series, someone made a mid-length post essentially making Anytime out to be total trash compared to Gorush (even in light of how the OSL went up till then) and predicting a very one-sided series. When Anytime did win, excuses were made and almost everyone predicted he will be destroyed by Midas. Just maybe, people are feeling guilty for doubting Anytime for nothing because of his "slump" and are now in denial?
some of the problems with judging skill level are because:
1. pro replays are not released
2. we don't have a huge database of pro records (or do we?) in english. it's too bad liquibet records are reset every season
3. vods are fine and dandy, but the commentators aren't the best at following actions and can frequently miss the "big picture." e.g. if you have been focusing on oov's micro for last few minutes then you will be surprised when you find out that he has been multitasking the whole time and has made 10000 tanks.
On November 11 2006 09:15 Orome wrote: Suddenly Anytime's the best new school toss again. ; )
Well, when wasn't he? I always insisted that the people who think Pusan is better are wrong. SO1 by sheer coincidence presented an ideal scenario for comparing Anytime and Pusan. Let's have a brief recap. In the challenge league leading up to SO1, Pusan was in playoffs with Rock and Boxer and lost. Anytime won his admittedly easier bracket and then beat Rock in the finals. Then, in the actual starleague, Pusan and Anytime happened to play many of the same players. The results were as follows: Pusan went 0-1 with Xellos, 2-3 with Boxer, and 2-3 with Iloveoov; Anytime went 2-1 with Xellos, 3-2 with Boxer, and 3-2 with Iloveoov (including the game Anytime lost in the group round when it didn't really matter since he was already qualified).
The one argument in Pusan's favor (based on actual results and not subjective appraisals like "he has really good macro!!") is that he has since reached top 3 in a starleague (before falling into a slump himself). If you ask me, consecutive #4 and #3 isn't even close to winning the entire thing once. So even if you don't factor this current OSL into account, it is very hard to argue that Pusan is *historically* a better player than Anytime.
Now, obviously nobody will seriously argue that Pusan is doing better than Anytime right now so if you want to deny that Anytime is the best "new school toss" you really don't have a lot to go on.
You misunderstand me. What I'm criticizing is how quickly people change their minds about players, and how certain they are of their judgement.
After Anytime won so1, he was the new hope for Protoss, best pvt in the world, etc, etc... When afterwards he went into a (very small) slump, suddenly everyone was saying he was a one-hit wonder, that he'd been lucky, that his fundamentals were lacking, you know what I'm talking about. Now everyone's acting as though they never denied him, as though it was always obvious he was the best of the three new tosses, and I find that annoying. ; )
Well, then I agree and I too found it annoying how so many people switched from an Anytime bandwagon to a Pusan bandwagon in a flash since SO1. Remember that "toss kings" thread? Some people even argued that *Stork* was really where it was at now... But even if you read the live reports for this current OSL, a lot of people still seem to think Anytime was very lucky to beat just about anybody. For example before the Anytime vs Gorush series, someone made a mid-length post essentially making Anytime out to be total trash compared to Gorush (even in light of how the OSL went up till then) and predicting a very one-sided series. When Anytime did win, excuses were made and almost everyone predicted he will be destroyed by Midas. Just maybe, people are feeling guilty for doubting Anytime for nothing because of his "slump" and are now in denial?
Anytime's slump wasn't a slump at all. The OSL after So1, ShinHan-1, was a fucking ghost-town when it came to P's. Cultivation Period in particular was the most imba piece of shit map ever. Throughout Anytime's apparent 'slump', he was still rocking proleagues but no one paid attention to his performance there.
He's the most consistent P I've seen in this game yet.
LOL? For Cult to have fucked up Anytime it would have been necessary for him to lose to a Zerg on it. I seem to recall instead that he was in a group with Pusan, Xellos and Casy and he beat Pusan on Cult then got his ass trounced on by both Casy (on 815, a Protoss favoring map) and Xellos (on RoV, a very balanced PvT map). Then he failed to qualify to the next OSL losing 1-2 in his ODT R2 group and then in the special Boxer's 24 groups he again lost 1-2 so was not a part of the 24 man OSL that followed Shinhan 1.
Lately I'd say Ra has been the most consistent. People are just hard on him because he keeps losing to Savior, but who the fuck doesn't lose to Savior? Back to back top 4 in MSL. Ra is a machine.
Anytime has been on fire for this OSL, but if you look at his record over the more long term, you will see that it's actually quite erratic, which is half the reason I thought he was dead. The other half is that I kept seeing too many games where he would mass suicide units Pusan style without Pusan level macro to back it up. Lately he's been much more careful not to slip up. Even so, his win over Midas can be more accounted to Midas' lack of strategic diversity than to Anytime's mechanics. The only reason I think Anytime will walk over NaDa (and he will wlak over NaDa) is because NaDa is going to be too predictable for Anytime.
Reach threw away his victory in almost all 3 games. He had a big lead when he stop Nada's initial push and the ones following it. Eventually Reach's attempt to stop Nada's push wasn't doing the right amount of damage for the cost yet he kepting trying then GG.
Reach's storm was precise and damaging enough to give him a bigg lead with a so-so army. When Nada started EMP-ing Reach's Aribiters & High Templars, Reach should had spread those units better.