As requested. No lengthy Brian Herbert bashing. But I would... Anyways it's been said and to be fair I definitely qualify as a hardcore dune fan. (Besides my username and gaming tags, my dogs name is Leto and My fishing vessel is also Atreides) My general advice is that literally anyone should try reading 1. If you really like it read 2-3. At this point most people could stop. If you are really into it though and can make it through 4 then 5 and 6 are my favorites after 1 personally.
I've had people try skipping 4 to read 5&6 and they didn't follow too well. I think that's a bad idea.
I don't mind the old movies for what they are tbh.
I've recently been reading a collection of all frank Herbert's short stories. It's pretty funny/interesting.
There's an upcoming dune reboot! I loved the dune series, well I loved the first 3 books then it got weird(er) but I still liked it.When I set out to lead humankind along my Golden Path, I promised them a lesson their bones would remember
I read the first one and it was great. I read the second one and found it long-winded, winding and mostly uninteresting. I never finished the 3rd book. Should I give them another go?
On April 25 2017 20:05 Acrofales wrote: I read the first one and it was great. I read the second one and found it long-winded, winding and mostly uninteresting. I never finished the 3rd book. Should I give them another go?
I mean i would say yes. Something time changes the perspective on things right? Though typically when i read a comment like yours it's because the first books is 100% the most easy to get into. The other books change styles and that's what people often don't like. Personally i think it is totally worth it though, it's not an "easy page turner" read though, i think DUNE requires someone to focus on it and its themes to get the most out of it. But sure i would say try it again
Just want to say that Dune is awesome. The scifi channel mini series was awesome. And that the new stuff and the butlerian jihad stuff was wack but that House Atreides, House Harkonnen, and House Corrino were all good.
So I've read Dune and I wasn't a massive fan of it, but I would recommend watching Jodorowsky's Dune which is a documentary about a planned adaptation of Dune that never happened. Super interesting.
On April 26 2017 14:02 Corrik wrote: Just want to say that Dune is awesome. The scifi channel mini series was awesome. And that the new stuff and the butlerian jihad stuff was wack but that House Atreides, House Harkonnen, and House Corrino were all good.
Especially Atreides and Harkonen.
Of the Bryan Herbert books, the immediate prequel books (House Atreides, et al.) are good and worth reading. They aren't Frank Herbert quality, but they are good enough. The Butlerian Jihad books are interesting from a lore perspective, but ultimately forgettable. Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune are abominations. All copies should be thrown into a fire so that we can forever forget that they existed.
Book 1: Great book, recommend to anyone. If you like it, keep reading.
Books 2+3: I have no memory of what happened in these books except for the last scene of book 3. Definitely the low point of the series in my opinion, and if you gave up on them I couldn't blame you. As far as I can tell (again, based on no actually memory) they just provide room for the aftermath of book 1 to play out. BUT if you can find the strength to get through them, it's worth it. Because they set up ...
Book 4: (╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻ This book is really good and really weird. In a vacuum it's probably not as good as book 1, but because it draws on hundreds of pages of world building, it can be awesome in a way that the first book couldn't. You can tell that this was supposed to be the middle book of the series - everything else revolves around it.
Books 5+6: Also good and weird and awesome. If you made it this far I have no doubt you will enjoy them quite a bit. Prepare to be unhappy at the end when book 7 doesn't exist and never will.
Fan of the Dune series since a kid...Watched the Sci-Fi Channel series w/ my Father.. was a Mini series if I recall. Revisited it later as well.
I played the Dune PC game as a kid, age 3-4. Was a little too intense for me though to be able to win.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Dune II was one of the first, if not first RTS ever, and predecessor to BW, SC2, Warcraft etc!
My first RTS ^_^
Gonna go look for my Dune novel at my house next time I'm there, I would really like to re-read it sometime soon. Has anyone seen how much original hardcover of Dune is selling for!? I saw $13,000 to $15,000 so far.
that was an autographed 1st edition that sold for that much, I think that was the highest selling book in a year a few years ago. regular ones wouldnt be worth that much
On April 26 2017 14:02 Corrik wrote: Just want to say that Dune is awesome. The scifi channel mini series was awesome. And that the new stuff and the butlerian jihad stuff was wack but that House Atreides, House Harkonnen, and House Corrino were all good.
Especially Atreides and Harkonen.
Of the Bryan Herbert books, the immediate prequel books (House Atreides, et al.) are good and worth reading. They aren't Frank Herbert quality, but they are good enough. The Butlerian Jihad books are interesting from a lore perspective, but ultimately forgettable. Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune are abominations. All copies should be thrown into a fire so that we can forever forget that they existed.
The only real spot that I felt was weird in the original Prequel Trilogy was that it almost seemed to drop a storyline that they appeared to be prepping hard. I had much more appreciation for Duncan Idaho due to that trilogy.
I like Chapterhouse also.
As far as the newest books, they kind of wrote them from Frank's notes. Thus, it is kind of unfair to bash them too much on the direction it went.
What is the point of making a Dune movie in the universe the an ultimate one already exists? I think people who don't appreciate the marvel of it just aren't Twin Peaks fans and thus can't be properly entertained by two hours of Kyle McLachlan pretending to be the saviour of the universe instead of a total nutjob. If someone wants to make a better Dune movie, the only way is to force Lynch to make a director's cut.
I really liked the Dune books, but then I never finished the 6th one. I got somehow distracted and then never got back to reading it again. Throughout the series, you can see the trend of it slowly devolving into an extensive rant of flowing ideas and opinions and this really materializes in the 6th book and that's probably what has put me off and also what makes it so difficult to pick up again if you stop reading for a couple of days. It also starts getting really repetitive with some aspects.
The world building is really what makes the series, obviously. Here I must say that I simply disagree with some of Herbert's ideas of how the world is gonna develop, but it doesn't matter, it's consistent and relatively deep. To my taste, the world is a little "overbuilt", a lot of stuff is getting repeated many times so that the reader doesn't forget how things work and that's pretty annoying, if you are reading the books in quick succession.
Dune is also one of the few books that have actually made my life better, because traveling in deserts is so much more fun when you can make Dune references day and night. The best place for a Dune fan is Yazd in Iran, where every house has a windtrap on the roof - to be fair, those aren't for moisture, but the wind for air conditioning using water brought to the house underground using a thing actually called a qanat. Not to mention that a lot of deserts actually have batigh melons growing on sand.
I kinda stopped with my reread (book one is done) but i will soon keep going. So i am not sure about your criticism atm, but i think it's fair enough Though i have to disagree with the Lynch movie, it wasn't that great imo The style itself simply didn't work there, i say that as a fan of his other work btw :D
Also thanks for the interesting, little RL addition, i doubt i will ever visit Yazd myself though.
On April 28 2017 12:23 Th1rdEye wrote: Why hasn't anyone mentioned that Dune II was one of the first, if not first RTS ever, and predecessor to BW, SC2, Warcraft etc!
I have book 5 and 6 (Heretics and Chapter House) as my favorites (barely), they have been since I first read the series 20 years ago. I love how it's hinting at the events in the scattering and how different cultures evolve/distort themselves together with technology and ideas. To me, this is where the series become the story of the universe. I also like the ending as it is, without the 7nd book.
So far the cast looks stellar, my expectations are extremely high (which might be dumb, but it is how it is). I hope the PR will do a good job and get people interested, imagine getting a movie series :O
Paul -- Timothee Chalamet Gurney -- Josh Brolin Duncan -- Jason Momoa Duke Leto -- Oscar Isaac Stilgar -- Javier Bardem Chani -- Zendaya Baron Harkonnen -- Stellan Skarsgard Rabban -- Dave Bautista Mohiam -- Charlotte Rampling Jessica -- Rebecca Ferguson
Only major guy missing is Feyd.
I'm just glad that Villeneuve has decided to make Dune into two movies. There's just no reasonable way to cram it all into one movie given all of the world building that has to be done. It would be natural enough to split the story + Show Spoiler +
either immediately after the fall of House Atreides or when Paul and Jessica join the Fremen