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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
On June 05 2015 00:37 Buckyman wrote: My experiences in low mmr -cm are less stark than you describe. Mainly: 1) If a player gives a list of 5 or so heroes they want to play, the captain will usually oblige them. 2) Both teams are unlikely to have a good captain (although the 55% rule applies against you here). The 'good' outcome is a captain who listens to his teammates, which is also the common case at the floor of the 2k bracket. Behavior may vary at the ceiling, though, as you also get players on the way down from the 3k bracket who think they know better than the players on their way up. 3) The 55% rule applies to trolls, as always; don't troll yourself and the trolling will generally work in your favor. I would also agree with some of this, but I'm trying to prepare him for terrible shitty sub-4k CM situations that no doubt will happen at some point eventually in his climb. Probably a high enough % its something you have to factor in when making a decision to go CM. Hewthetitan wrote: I've been trying to learn support. Is that a bad idea early on? I try not to take any last hits, but half the time the carry I'm with doesn't even go for them... It seems best to go semi-carry for this mechanics practice? I guess what I'm asking is: "what's a good role to use to get out of this low mmr swamp, while actually getting better?" (edit: what lane too? Mid seems fought-over As some have already suggested, play a 3 or 4 if you want to go the supp route. You need to pick heroes that are not just supporty, but also can semi-carry like Windranger, Lina, Vengeful, etc so if you truly are capable of playing at higher levels, you can fully manifest an advantage you can run with to victory. What do you do when you get everyone talking, everyone picks roles, then 3 go mid and won't leave, then they start insulting everyone so you have to mute them all? This kind of scenario hasn't happened to me in a while but it has before and it is exactly why I only play 1 of 4 things in a pub. Solo offlane core snowballer. Solo jungle core snowballer. Solo mid (but as you said, its contested or claimed often) snowballer. Main position 1 safelane carry (Not often, as I often have a lane partner who sucks or tries to steal farm). It seems narrow-minded, but its just what works for me. My best and most-played heroes are all gankers/cores/junglers and I am able to most fully exploit advantages and create map action where and when I need to in order to create more wins when using those types. You should do whatever is this equivalent for you (if its supports making huge teamfights that you guys constantly win happen, do that). I simply can farm fast and survive at a level that 3kers can't compete with. Sometimes instead you have to be a rat at a level 3kers aren't expecting. Sometimes you have to gank so hard 3kers will feed you like 10 support lives because they have no map awareness. You just have to find whatever advantage you can make, and then exploit the crap out of it. If you start snowballing, don't stop the avalanche! Also, you might want to ease up on gaijindash. He is the writer for an article that very much parallels what you are writing about in this thread and can offer some good pointers I'm sure. | ||
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Klowney
Sweden277 Posts
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gaijindash
Japan376 Posts
You're really going to troll somebody who's started a thread for help dealing with trolling? You better be wearing a monocle with all that class  You know I wrote a response to explain myself but I'm not going to bother. Good luck with your problem. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On June 05 2015 05:05 HighTimeDotA wrote: if you're not having fun why keep playing? there are other fun games/activities. this. I won't hesitate to abandon a game (as long as I'm not playing with anyone I know) if the game starts feeling like it won't be worth my time. in fact, I'm sure while my teammates will be pissed off, at least I saved them 30 mins or so of their time. Very rarely have had to do this thankfully, but there'll always be games where everything goes to shit so fast. I have a hundred other games on my steam library to play if I choose to play and I haven't even finished half of them, so might as well just play them if dota isn't being worth my time. In fact there's plenty of things to do outside of playing games anyway. | ||
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calh
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