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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 16 2018 08:48 GMT
#801
It all depends
You basically go wand+boots
Rest is dynamic based on lanes, how the game's going and team compositions
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 10:44:02
September 16 2018 10:36 GMT
#802
I think Aquilla is still pretty much core, stats and regen are still very nice on the hero and since you haunt to fights the armor aura is a nice cherrytop. Urn isn't really viable with the haunt cd and you need a small mana item.

I haven't really played the hero since the patch, Manta and BM are nerfed, which used to be your early options. Could see building an early vanguard/drums into diffu now if you want to fight early.

If I think about it that way, all of Spec's early-mid item options barring radiance received direct or indirect nerfs alongside 7 hero nerfs.
low gravity, yes-yes!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 16 2018 15:04 GMT
#803
Urn's definitely still viable in the right game
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
September 17 2018 05:43 GMT
#804
Ppl still picking this hero left right and center, treads aquila wand manta diffu seems to be the go2 build
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-17 19:32:51
September 17 2018 19:29 GMT
#805
On September 17 2018 00:04 LemOn wrote:
Urn's definitely still viable in the right game

Would you mind explaining why? Imo Spec isn't really that good at joining fights anymore until she finished manta or radiance and even then mostly want to do it when she has haunt, so I'd much rather have it on a roaming 4 or roaming mid like qw Invoker. And in terms of stats it's just inferior to Aquilla. I guess it has double the regen.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-20 10:49:39
September 20 2018 10:45 GMT
#806
On September 18 2018 04:29 Archeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2018 00:04 LemOn wrote:
Urn's definitely still viable in the right game

Would you mind explaining why? Imo Spec isn't really that good at joining fights anymore until she finished manta or radiance and even then mostly want to do it when she has haunt, so I'd much rather have it on a roaming 4 or roaming mid like qw Invoker. And in terms of stats it's just inferior to Aquilla. I guess it has double the regen.

In lanes where you have kill potential it's really big to get charges, and even 1 of them is big in first haunt. It has a great gradual buildup with raindrop, ROP, circlet and you get it ahead of anyone and the regen is really big if you get charges.

The reason why you see aquila 100% in pro games and rarely urn is because spectre gets always countered in lane by physical hard to kill range heroes and is laned with defensive supports, vs ench/wr, weaver etc. you just have to go aquila for the stats + armor from agility and spec almost never has kill potential in the forced defensive dual lanes.
Even though armor is actually the same now with urn, who knew :D

Another thing is Spirit vessel is needed vs alch, heals in almost every progame and Spec doesn't really want to upgrade urn and support in progames almost always go for it. That's definitely not the case in pubs, that's why it should remain a situational pick there.

It goes to all the other items btw, Urn/Aquila and then manta/radiance/vanguard/blademail/diffusal even occasional midas and drums really make the difference on the hero and you have to adapt every game
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