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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
On September 08 2012 20:10 Kipsate wrote: Caustic finale on multiple creeps then burrow striking for like ~400 damage+auto's makes sand king so much fun. Don't forget to get those autos in during your ult combo too. If you gib any supports the caustic effect will take their allies with them, it is nearly another burrowstrike of damage in a generous AOE. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
What really irks me about a lot of pub SKs I see is that their mentality, ESPECIALLY after they get their blink is that they need to ult blink stun everytime from the start of a battle A lot of times it's more beneficial, especially when your team is in good position, to just rather blink and stun 2-3 heroes and get out of the way. You will have enough mana mid game to use your ult later if you see it necessary. SK is really all about staying alive. He has 2 incredibly powerful escapes in his stun and sandstorm. After you blink in and stun, please, for the love of god, do not sit around and autoattack if you're surrounded by enemy heroes. He's way more useful if you can stay alive for a few more seconds outside of threat range, and then blink stun 2-3 heroes again when your CD is off. You can dodge so many different spells with sandstorm and stun, so your priority is to 1. disable as many enemy heroes as possible, and 2. stay alive as long as possible so you can continue to be a threatening presence for the WHOLE duration of the teamfight. I personally like buying utility items after blink (if i can get some farm), so during the period where you're waiting for your CD to cool off, you can assist the team, even if it just means to forcestaff targets accordingly | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
BKB is still a great item on him, but I honestly dont see it to be "core". BKB is a situational item in general. Against a 5-stun wonder team it would be fucking fantastic. But there are still a lot of stuff that can go through it. So its always better to think twice about what you want to spend 3900 on instead. Force Staff. *Tap tap--CYA FUCKING LATER! Its so good, I dont get why more people dont get this item on ALL supports. Serves same purposes as Cyclone stick in escape or chasing utilization. Blink, cyclone, forcestaff, sandstorm, burrowstrike. Sand king is like the ultimate fcking ninja on the battlefield. One of my most favorite heroes as support. So... fucking... good... 10/10 Would bang. Edit: Oh the shame... Yes, I used to play HoN.... -_- | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
On September 09 2012 13:21 Emnjay808 wrote: Cyclone stick is cheaper and offers invulnerability to yourself or allies (OP as fck). Or it can also be used as a chasing mechanism. yeah i agree cyclone stick is an amazing utility item for support heroes just one correction though, you can't euls allies. you could in hon but cant in dota  | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On September 09 2012 13:21 Emnjay808 wrote: BKB is still a great item on him, but I honestly dont see it to be "core". BKB is a situational item in general. Against a 5-stun wonder team it would be fucking fantastic. But there are still a lot of stuff that can go through it. So its always better to think twice about what you want to spend 3900 on instead. Cyclone stick is cheaper and offers invulnerability to yourself or allies (OP as fck). Or it can also be used as a chasing mechanism. I don't think anything past Blink Dagger and Arcane Boots is really core on SK. You're right, BKB is really expensive but in general works pretty well so I listed it plus Aghs under "Extension." As I see it, the idea behind BKB is if you want to have the best initiation possible or be able to counter-initiate properly. If you're playing SK as a 4 or 5 support chances are you won't get BKB. And yeah I'm pretty sure you can't Eul's teammates. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
Lesh is SK's best friend in a dou / trilane, I highly recommend it | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:11 Aineko wrote: Maybe add 1 thing to burrow strike: If an enemy hero has linkens and you target the ground, not him, linkens wont pop from your borrow and you stun him, otherwise it will just trigger linkens like a targeted spell. I tested this recently, and it no longer works. Burrowstrike activates linkens even when you hit through AOE and not target. | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
On September 10 2012 23:53 synapse wrote: I tested this recently, and it no longer works. Burrowstrike activates linkens even when you hit through AOE and not target. This! Was bugged, then changed like the way was meant to be. Still a nice bug to fool around XD | ||
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cheeseosaur
Australia134 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On September 15 2012 17:15 cheeseosaur wrote: Does anyone know if there were any changes to the caustic finale skill from dota to dota2? Maybe it was just me low skill level but I never managed to combo the killing of creeps to deliver the deathblow like in vids above. i don't remember the effect lasting longer than maybe a few seconds, so you couldn't keep more than like two effects on creeps active at once. Maybe they changed it in a patch or something? Or maybe i just didn't pay attention to the skill well enough in dota1 | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
it lasts forever now it's super ez | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On September 08 2012 10:11 Aineko wrote: Maybe add 1 thing to burrow strike: If an enemy hero has linkens and you target the ground, not him, linkens wont pop from your borrow and you stun him, otherwise it will just trigger linkens like a targeted spell. This is not true. Burrow strike will always trigger Linkens. Also burrow strike is not targetable in Dota or Dota2. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On September 15 2012 21:54 Bumblebee wrote: This is not true. Burrow strike will always trigger Linkens. Also burrow strike is not targetable in Dota or Dota2. It is targetable, if you click on a hero out of range it will walk up to him even if he moves away. Remember, back in Dota1 you could work around linkens with stunning next to the hero- linkens used to only block if you target it on the holder. They changed it so even if you doesnt target the linkens holder it blocked it in early dota2 | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On September 15 2012 22:55 Ottoxlol wrote: It is targetable, if you click on a hero out of range it will walk up to him even if he moves away. Remember, back in Dota1 you could work around linkens with stunning next to the hero- linkens used to only block if you target it on the holder. They changed it so even if you doesnt target the linkens holder it blocked it in early dota2 Are you sure? If so that's something they changed because it wasn't like that always in Dota2. It used (and I think it still is, but then again I never play SK) to not be targetable. | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On September 16 2012 04:27 Bumblebee wrote: Are you sure? If so that's something they changed because it wasn't like that always in Dota2. It used (and I think it still is, but then again I never play SK) to not be targetable. Its always been this way (in Dota1 and Dota2 from november when I got my key), they only changed Linkens interaction | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
it wasn't a couple months ago at least | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On September 16 2012 05:20 Ottoxlol wrote: Its always been this way (in Dota1 and Dota2 from november when I got my key), they only changed Linkens interaction It 100 % hasn't always been targetable. It used to be in HoN and it was one of the changes I noticed the most (I used to play a lot of SK). | ||
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On September 16 2012 11:43 Bumblebee wrote: It 100 % hasn't always been targetable. It used to be in HoN and it was one of the changes I noticed the most (I used to play a lot of SK). Then maybe my memory has it wrong, I DO remember it. In Dota1-2 it can miss due to when you hit it on a target out of range it walks up to maxrange, casts it, but the extra aoe of the stun is only 150 so the target can dodge it if he moves fast enough, in HoN it has better aoe. AFAIK. I've played a shitton of SK-Magmus for a lot of years and I think it always been targetable | ||
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Aixler
Netherlands946 Posts
edit: in hon it wasn't targettable at first, don't know if that ever changed. | ||
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