EPTOther than that TPs as stated above, wards and not letting him freefarm at mid. One gank on him at mid should win you the game assuming the rest of his team doesn't carry him.
How to kill Bloodseeker? - Page 2
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Cranium
United States48 Posts
Other than that TPs as stated above, wards and not letting him freefarm at mid. One gank on him at mid should win you the game assuming the rest of his team doesn't carry him. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
The trick to this strat is simple: You need to be fully aware of Bloodseeker's presence, or have vision of him. Anticipate when hes about to cast Rupture on you, at this time its crucial to activate Ghost Scepter before it hits you. Once you successfully do this, cast Force Staff on yourself as soon as possible and then run straight for the fountain. I hope this helps you. + Show Spoiler + Just kidding... Simplest counter is to carry a TP, imo. I dont really think BloodSeekers are that scary, are they? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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DrLovecraft
United States108 Posts
no really, once you know how to play against him, he really can't do anything other than farm items and go late game where you get 6 slots, even then he still cant carry as hard as hard carries basically he's useless pre 6 other than he can CS really well because harassing him is pointless and he has good base damage and even when he hits 6, all you have to do is position yourself well, even then that nuke is lack luster as long as you dont run away from him, the only real danger is you getting caught out of position and getting ruptured, in which case any aggressive midlaner can punish much harder, earlier and more frequently, his rupture CD is his only nuke and way to gank but the thing that really fucks Bloodseeker over is that ... you ready? .... YOU CAN TP AWAY FROM A RUPTURE he literally has no way of stopping you unless he buys MKB/BASH/HEX or he has team mates with him compare that to a Tiny who can burst you down from 100-0 in 1 combo or a NS that is Tanky as heck, hits hard and has a 335 nuke/ministun/slow on a 8 sec CD (Rupture has a 70 sec CD btw and only does 150 damage at level 1), you can say Oh just bait out the Void before you safely TP and its a fail gank, WRONG, NS has one of the best EHP gains of any hero especially early and his auto attacks hurt plus he's perma hasted at night BS's only form of reliable CC is a silence that makes his enemies hit harder LMAO | ||
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Rappinrobot
United States46 Posts
Be aware of your health - if it is <40% and BS is missing, TP back to base (you probably wont outrun him). Killing him is easy.. Just chain stun him to death. Don't ever use all your stuns at once (I know its hard to coordinate in pubs). He is a really fast hero so if someone is in the threshold for Thirst, overlapping stuns will not work as he will just run. Hope this helps! | ||
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thecrazynoobking
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Rashnok
United States4 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:11 DrLovecraft wrote: Probably the most useless hero in the current version of Dota no really, once you know how to play against him, he really can't do anything other than farm items and go late game where you get 6 slots, even then he still cant carry as hard as hard carries basically he's useless pre 6 other than he can CS really well because harassing him is pointless and he has good base damage and even when he hits 6, all you have to do is position yourself well, even then that nuke is lack luster as long as you dont run away from him, the only real danger is you getting caught out of position and getting ruptured, in which case any aggressive midlaner can punish much harder, earlier and more frequently, his rupture CD is his only nuke and way to gank but the thing that really fucks Bloodseeker over is that ... you ready? .... YOU CAN TP AWAY FROM A RUPTURE he literally has no way of stopping you unless he buys MKB/BASH/HEX or he has team mates with him compare that to a Tiny who can burst you down from 100-0 in 1 combo or a NS that is Tanky as heck, hits hard and has a 335 nuke/ministun/slow on a 8 sec CD (Rupture has a 70 sec CD btw and only does 150 damage at level 1), you can say Oh just bait out the Void before you safely TP and its a fail gank, WRONG, NS has one of the best EHP gains of any hero especially early and his auto attacks hurt plus he's perma hasted at night BS's only form of reliable CC is a silence that makes his enemies hit harder LMAO He isn't -that- useless. His buff can be great to support a heavy carry that doesn't rely much on abilities like Phantom Assassin. Better even to silence enemy casters by using the buff offensively. Above all else, he is better than any other hero on mop-up duty. He can hit invisible heroes even without a gem. His speed buff is practically designed for that duty. And self-heal from killing lets him clean up one weakened hero after another. All he needs a ministun from mkb to be able to interrupt teleports. As an agi hero, he will naturally have decent attack speed, especially with treads and mkb. Add a butterfly if filthy-farmed. I would go for bkb personally for the utility. Heroes with global abilities will pair up great with his passive. Sunstrike that low hp enemy. Line up an arrow!~ Zeuuuusssss, do eeet. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Qbyx
Romania210 Posts
On November 25 2012 18:11 DrLovecraft wrote: Probably the most useless hero in the current version of Dota no really, once you know how to play against him, he really can't do anything other than farm items and go late game where you get 6 slots, even then he still cant carry as hard as hard carries basically he's useless pre 6 other than he can CS really well because harassing him is pointless and he has good base damage and even when he hits 6, all you have to do is position yourself well, even then that nuke is lack luster as long as you dont run away from him, the only real danger is you getting caught out of position and getting ruptured, in which case any aggressive midlaner can punish much harder, earlier and more frequently, his rupture CD is his only nuke and way to gank but the thing that really fucks Bloodseeker over is that ... you ready? .... YOU CAN TP AWAY FROM A RUPTURE he literally has no way of stopping you unless he buys MKB/BASH/HEX or he has team mates with him compare that to a Tiny who can burst you down from 100-0 in 1 combo or a NS that is Tanky as heck, hits hard and has a 335 nuke/ministun/slow on a 8 sec CD (Rupture has a 70 sec CD btw and only does 150 damage at level 1), you can say Oh just bait out the Void before you safely TP and its a fail gank, WRONG, NS has one of the best EHP gains of any hero especially early and his auto attacks hurt plus he's perma hasted at night BS's only form of reliable CC is a silence that makes his enemies hit harder LMAO I'm not saying that BS is a must-pick hero, but by far isn't that useless as you stated. More like situational. Agains heros like weaver / akasha / storm etc. he can be very usefull. BS with one damage item, can reach 400 dps with high atackspeed, combined with a bkb & a max movements speed ... he will do A LOT of damage in a teamfight. Obviously we can't forget that he is one of the best meele laners. | ||
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pedrlz
Brazil5234 Posts
On December 08 2012 13:48 plogamer wrote: He isn't -that- useless. His buff can be great to support a heavy carry that doesn't rely much on abilities like Phantom Assassin. Better even to silence enemy casters by using the buff offensively. Above all else, he is better than any other hero on mop-up duty. He can hit invisible heroes even without a gem. His speed buff is practically designed for that duty. And self-heal from killing lets him clean up one weakened hero after another. All he needs a ministun from mkb to be able to interrupt teleports. As an agi hero, he will naturally have decent attack speed, especially with treads and mkb. Add a butterfly if filthy-farmed. I would go for bkb personally for the utility. Heroes with global abilities will pair up great with his passive. Sunstrike that low hp enemy. Line up an arrow!~ Zeuuuusssss, do eeet. IMO, Icefrog should redesign bloodrage, it's stupid use that and be silenced taking damage per second(almost 200 if I am not wrong) in yourserlf/allies and give bonus damage for enemies. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On December 08 2012 16:42 Qbyx wrote: I'm not saying that BS is a must-pick hero, but by far isn't that useless as you stated. More like situational. Agains heros like weaver / akasha / storm etc. he can be very usefull. BS with one damage item, can reach 400 dps with high atackspeed, combined with a bkb & a max movements speed ... he will do A LOT of damage in a teamfight. Obviously we can't forget that he is one of the best meele laners. In which world do you get 400 dps with 1 damage item on BS? Maybe Power Treads/Butterfly with maxed Bloodrage, but then you can´t use a BKB as it removes Bloodrage. That´s his weakness, he can´t actually do autohitdamage and use BKB, giving him 0 applicable autohit skills on a melee autohit carry. He is a worse autohitter than doom. Anyway, brilliant thread necro here, how about we let this finally die? | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
there are a lot of better meele carrys, he doesnt farm superfast, i dont know how one cant kill bloodseeker :D On December 08 2012 17:55 Mataza wrote: In which world do you get 400 dps with 1 damage item on BS? Maybe Power Treads/Butterfly with maxed Bloodrage, but then you can´t use a BKB as it removes Bloodrage. That´s his weakness, he can´t actually do autohitdamage and use BKB, giving him 0 applicable autohit skills on a melee autohit carry. He is a worse autohitter than doom. Anyway, brilliant thread necro here, how about we let this finally die? even zeus has 400 dps with 1 damage item. Divine dat GOD. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
On November 25 2012 13:37 Cranium wrote: At mid, Quas Exort Invoker is the best counter to Bloodseeker. Other than that TPs as stated above, wards and not letting him freefarm at mid. One gank on him at mid should win you the game assuming the rest of his team doesn't carry him. I tried to play q wex invoker vs bloodseeker mid, did not go well. Even for Quas Exort invoker I'm not sure how you should mid against him. Harass is useless, and you won't be able to out last hit that well him with the nerfed Invoker based damage. Basically you wait until level 8 and do a cold snap/double summon combo to kill him? It makes you really passive, and he can always silence you and run away since you'll be very slow compared to him. | ||
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Qbyx
Romania210 Posts
On December 08 2012 17:55 Mataza wrote: In which world do you get 400 dps with 1 damage item on BS? Maybe Power Treads/Butterfly with maxed Bloodrage, but then you can´t use a BKB as it removes Bloodrage. That´s his weakness, he can´t actually do autohitdamage and use BKB, giving him 0 applicable autohit skills on a melee autohit carry. He is a worse autohitter than doom. Anyway, brilliant thread necro here, how about we let this finally die? How about not telling incorrect information in that fation? I said 400 DPS, wich is kind of wrong, because I ment to say damage. That damage with the mentioned item (butter + pt) can be reached around lvl 20, with lvl 4 bloodrage obviously. The BKB removing the bloodrage is just flat out wrong, SO yes YOU CAN run around at maximum movement speed with 400 damage with BKB activated. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On December 09 2012 02:34 Qbyx wrote: How about not telling incorrect information in that fation? I said 400 DPS, wich is kind of wrong, because I ment to say damage. That damage with the mentioned item (butter + pt) can be reached around lvl 20, with lvl 4 bloodrage obviously. The BKB removing the bloodrage is just flat out wrong, SO yes YOU CAN run around at maximum movement speed with 400 damage with BKB activated. I apologize for false information. Bloodrage indeed stays on after activating BKB. So it would take a few more words to explain why BS is not exactly the best. -The only item which synergizes with his ult is Forcestaff -His skillset only synergizes with items that give Agi. -Bloodrage silences yourself(if you cast for damage) or gives damage to the opponent(if you use for silence) -Max movementspeed is on a condition you have no control over -Health regain is also on a condition outside of your control At Level 20 400 dps is kinda weak, but also BS reaches 400 dps at lvl 15-16, not 20. The thing is, you neither reach the Butterfly fast nor are you actually ready for battle once you have it. Running around with PT on strength, BKB and Butterfly means you´re still at 1.5k at lvl 15 which is not exactly sturdy. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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