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On March 16 2015 02:36 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2015 21:26 DucK- wrote:On March 15 2015 16:20 zelphin wrote:
in order to become a semi carry late game i guess. like some pos 4 wks do it
what so good about blink though, you already have 1000+900 which is longer than day vision
You cannot play catch up with Morphling because Morphling without big items is nothing. To be relevant as a semi carry, you need to be mainly Agi. I'd rather have a no item str morph than a 2 item agi morph. manta eblade morph is probably more useful than euls str morph but lets not bring any logic to this subforum
(tranq sr) manta eblade is (1800+)9850 networth, while (tranq sr) blink euls is (1800+)5100 networth. this difference of 4750 networth implies that you've spent time farming jungle or split pushing waves instead of sitting behind carries and smoke ganking and map controlling and such. aren't these completely different scenarios? i'm not saying the type of game that you'll want to be greedy and go for manta eblade doesn't exist, but i thought the entire point of picking a low-farm-prio morph was mainly to help make space and work with gank squads, not to help bolster the lategame?
if you're fielding a 3/4 morphling, isn't the point to walk around with your 4.25 stun and fight all throughout the midgame? isn't taking space and farming up a midas/manta/eblade during that period just going ultra greedy in a way that would be better served by like, a 3/4 enigma or something? don't you want sr/tranqs/blink/euls as your early progession precisely because it helps keep your space creating tempo up as a proper 3/4 position that isn't meant to eat up space ala a greedy visage or something?
i mean i imagine there's some stagnant high farm games where both teams focus on lategame where you'll get up to 12k networth as a 3/4 because of a long stagnant midgame/earlylategame where blink/euls wouldn't have really helped, but is that the norm you imagine for 3/4 morph?
i mean sry if you were trying to keep logic out of here
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Even if you end up with that extra 5k gold (not impossible), I'd rather buy a hex then pretend to be a relevant carry.
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PFFFFFFFFFFFFT EBLADEMANTA OVER EBLADEDAGON3
Like anyone is gonna waste a silence for a sub 10k net worth60 minutes in to dispell anyway lmao
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On March 17 2015 03:22 hariooo wrote:
PFFFFFFFFFFFFT EBLADEMANTA OVER EBLADEDAGON3
Like anyone is gonna waste a silence for a sub 10k net worth60 minutes in to dispell anyway lmao
Even if they did, Diffusal or Eul's still do more things you care about.
IDK why you'd get Manta as a support with no items to make Illusions remotely dangerous in any way.
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but speaking seriously i have to advocate against this recent trend of pudge+morph support duos. i don't know if it's particularly strong but it's definitely annoying.
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I think I'd much rather see a support Pudge than a support Morphling, to be honest.
Offlane Morph is pretty much the only Strength Morph that I could tolerate without gagging.
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morph/pudge just make a pretty good 4/5 combo because pudge can just roam and terrorize from like level 2 while morph pulls and soaks until level 5 or 7, and after that point, the two have pretty much a guaranteed hook from 1900 range away
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From the testing I've done I would say that support morph is much better than offlane morph. It really hurts your team having an offlaner who does no damage, and if you were to try and farm a dagon or something you would have to spend too much time agi-morphed to be useful. My last bunch of games as support morph were pretty successful. I first pick it every game because it has no direct counters and people expect carry morph anyway.
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How do I make use of Level 1 Replicate? It has only 15s duration and costs a fuck ton of mana compared to what Morphling typically has pre-Linkens.
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Free/quick fountain trip if needed?
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Replicate their carry while he's stunned. I generally dont use it as an escape when playing support. As a carry you should use it when pushing and always save enough mana to get out
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its 30s
sometimes its useful to chase for kills, scouting, stacking neuts, fountain trips, etc
but generally speaking u don't really use it. most morphs skip replicate until 9 anyway
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-Fountain trips.
-Defensive "teleports". Similarly to how PA can jump to a friend you can replicate a friend when you're being attacked and instantly move to it.
-Tanking towers, farming, etc. Send Axe or Centaur replicates to jungle or creep-cut behind towers. Send PA replicates to a tower and let it tank. Use whatever passives available in the game. Some can even be used as DPS such as if you get a replicated TB during Meta.
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Most of the time, you'll be using pre -11 replicate to tp back to base, fill up your bottle (if you ahve one), and then jump back to your replicate when you have full mana + hp. other than that, you MIGHT get a kill because of it
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I find using early replicate to chase quite dangerous. You have to judge it really carefully.
Morph barely has enough mana for waveform and replicate before his first major. Even if you get the kill you usually end up stuck behind a tower with no mana, waveform on cd and too much agi.
I mean it does work but I see people commit suicide with it far more often than I see them make plays.
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Most of the times it is for your fountain trip. Sometimes I try to do body block with it for kills. Very low success rate with it though unlike my Chen :D
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Thing about vs support Morph is how I'm forced to get BKB so early on T.T
But when I play support Morph, it's the most broken thing  Hope I random the hero more.
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On April 04 2015 18:17 DucK- wrote:Thing about vs support Morph is how I'm forced to get BKB so early on T.T But when I play support Morph, it's the most broken thing Hope I random the hero more.
Just pick it lol...
Is it cuz you want the random gold for insta soul ring?
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On April 05 2015 02:27 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 18:17 DucK- wrote:Thing about vs support Morph is how I'm forced to get BKB so early on T.T But when I play support Morph, it's the most broken thing Hope I random the hero more. Just pick it lol... Is it cuz you want the random gold for insta soul ring?
Nah. I don't like to pick heroes. I always random in ranked. And I don't start with sr on morph haha.
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How would you even spend SR mana at level 1, it's not like he's a super spammy hero until he has all his spells.
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