EPT[Hero] Legion Commander - Page 11
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On February 23 2014 13:17 Belisarius wrote: Alright so on this.... What is a reasonable time for blink dagger now? It feels like much more than a minor nerf. If you get a centaur in a medium camp and anything except trolls in a hard camp early on, it sets you back enormously. Even abusing the small camp and screwing up your safelane, I find she still jungles far more slowly than is reasonable to make an impact with blink. If someone had a reply of a good blink timing (preferably of realistic spawns rather than that one game you got 3x troll 4x satyr), that would bea very much appreciated. EDIT: and now double post. I am really good at this today. you have to choke point jungle now around 8 min ish | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
Even if MoC is worse now, surely you still get more lifesteal/dps from the extra procs the small creeps give you... And 8 mins for naked blink or blink + boots? | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On February 23 2014 13:17 Zealos wrote: This hero is so bloody annoying to have on your team. If you want to AFK jungle farm and get armlet and AC then just fucking pick lifestealer ffs. Unless you are abusing you ultimate with a blink or shadow blade or something, you are gaining next to nothing by picking this hero instead of naix. She farms safer. With careful jungling, you can stay above %50 all the time. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
On February 24 2014 02:27 Laserist wrote: She farms safer. With careful jungling, you can stay above %50 all the time. Pls no. She is not a 30 min AFK farming hero. At all. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
This just means that jungle LC is dependent on that 1st Blink Dagger gank to be worthwhile. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On February 25 2014 18:56 Zealos wrote: Pls no. She is not a 30 min AFK farming hero. At all. Did you quote me? I didn't say anything about 30 min farm. I generally rush phase into blink and finished it around 13 min. Then gank mid or safe lane to secure some damage and jungle in ulti downtime. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On February 25 2014 21:37 Laserist wrote: Did you quote me? I didn't say anything about 30 min farm. I generally rush phase into blink and finished it around 13 min. Then gank mid or safe lane to secure some damage and jungle in ulti downtime. How do you jungle her now? Or are you laning/Mid? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [video] + | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On March 22 2014 00:54 BoZiffer wrote: How do you jungle her now? Or are you laning/Mid? Neither. Go jungle since she doesn't benefits from farm as much as others. My choice is choke point jungle unless 3 points of passive. Stack hard camp is possible. I go phase before blink since you are extremely reliant of you lane mates to secure damage with just blink. Phase give a good 100-150 maybe more physical damage in ulti probably let you secure kills and better jungling. Rushing blink is legit but needs more finesse to use effectively. | ||
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Noya
Uruguay11223 Posts
On March 22 2014 04:10 Dead9 wrote: i think you have to choke point jungle now + Show Spoiler [video] + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQUmVctbSUQ they missed the medium camp choke points, I made a full compilation album here http://imgur.com/a/o3gEA#0 | ||
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omgbbqsauce
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
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LonelyCat
United Kingdom130 Posts
The problem then is that you can never kill the ranged creep with your Q, but hitting it with it means it will be a free deny (bad). The 6.81 change makes this easier later (level 7+) as if you can hit the hero, the ranged creep should die in 1 hit (180 + 20*4 + 65 = 325), but makes it worse if you don't hit the hero (as even if you had level 7 at minute 1 it wouldn't be enough). Is there a reliable method to get your melee creeps to hit their ranged creeps if you can pull the aggro of their melee creeps? Would help LC mid a lot I think if you can do this as my current method of running to the other side of the river to right click it once is pretty suicidal if I play against players who know what they're doing or roaming supports. | ||
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_noXscape_
Malaysia2 Posts
*even ursa and PA cant survive my deadly Duel, unless ive been hook or stun xD | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
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Skyro
United States1823 Posts
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ahw
Canada1099 Posts
legion won't do anything in the offlane if the safelaners know how to control the lane and pull properly. you'll be zoned by 1 support and the other will stack/pull and deny the wave. the other problem is overwhelming odds shoves the lane towards their tower, something u do not want as an offlaner. and lastly legion desperately needs farm to be effective. legion needs blink to do anything, and legion doesn't have the kit to safely farm a blink in the offlane unlike puck/centaur. Also unlike puck/centaur, legion doesnt offer anything to the team until she has that item. could work pretty well against a greedy support duo or dual lanes, though | ||
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
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