EPT[Hero] Legion Commander - Page 10
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
I tried sb rush and drum into sb in my games nowadays. Drum gives an edge in early to mid game but delays sb to some extent. I have mana problems doesn't matter what I build so drums help this a bit. Blink is nice too but you rely too much on your teammates and positioning to bring someone down. With some more investment, you get pretty good damage and attack speed with sb. Also awesome against split pushers. I feel like, downside of this hero is the opponent's defensive play and staying together. About HotD, I'll try it even though life steal doesn't provide that much value but xtra damage, regen and armor may prove its use with phase boots. | ||
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Varth
United States426 Posts
If there's an obvious place to gank do it, if there's not just continue farming until lvl 8 for lvl 4 press the attack and keep your eye on the map for opportunities, because they WILL be there. If you mid is ganking a lane join them, basically once you get your blink your main job is to be at any team kill that happens, while working towards your finished boots. If you can get 3+ stacks before lvl 11 you are doing well. On boots, I always go phase mainly because of the MS advantage over treads. When you see a kill happening you want to be there ASAP, I've barely made it quite a few times with phase to get that duel off and secure a stack. While I do think treads has a slight dps advantage, phase makes up for it in getting more potential stacks AND being better for chasing, which as a melee you will be doing a lot of. With phase + OO you can haul ass when you need to. For items I personally prefer blink-phase-armlet-bkb because armlet provides some tanky hp and is so efficient early which is when you NEED to snowball. You need to be a big threat in the midgame to either take advantage of solo kills or to keep them grouped up which will reduce their farming and lvling. | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
On January 14 2014 21:14 robaq wrote: What are your feelings about rushing HotD on this hero? I've been able to get a 8-9 minute rosh with it which is kinda huge, and it's useful farm big ancient stacks pretty early on. Main downside is being quite costly and doesn't offer anything in ganks. What does the rosh give you if you can't kill anyone because you're stuck with a hotd? You already have passive lifesteal, and if you're farming big ancient stacks it's because you already have quite a bit of duel damage, and in the case you should just be killing more people. | ||
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
The one thing that infuriates me is when I see people duel before they cast "Press the Attack." The attack speed, heal, and debuff are all critical for something that will give your opponent permanent damage if you lose. Save a life; cast Press the Attack before dueling | ||
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robaq
Poland186 Posts
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
On January 15 2014 12:43 DavoS wrote: I don't like her in jungle because the percent chance to counter attack is the worst scaling ability she has. She is just a bizarre snowball hero,. The one thing that infuriates me is when I see people duel before they cast "Press the Attack." The attack speed, heal, and debuff are all critical for something that will give your opponent permanent damage if you lose. Save a life; cast Press the Attack before dueling You should be able to permanently jungle with 4 tangos, stout and qualling blade. I recommend skipping centaur spawns at first 2 levels. Centaurs do chaos damage, hard to kill and give shitty xp. Also more creeps = better chance at proccing. I think its completely waste of safelane if people play it there. You shouldn't be able to kill their solo offlaner because LC doesn't have stun/slow which means you give him free XP leech which is pretty bad at higher level of games. Also LC is pretty bad dual vs dual lane hero if enemies run dual hardlane. And LC is one of the fastest jungle farmers in game. 6-7 levels and naked dagger in 7.5-8.5mins. One of the reasons why dagger is so good on LC is that you can cast Press the Attack just before blinking to duel someone. I prefer it much more than shadowblade. When enemies buy sentries or get gem, LC will never be able to initiate well when they 5man. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
u'd be better off getting a vlads if u rly wanna solo rosh | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:56 Dead9 wrote: hotd doesn't even work during duel u'd be better off getting a vlads if u rly wanna solo rosh Yeah, I tried HotD too and doesn't worth even thou I won the game. It gives sick damage with no recipe but provides no initiation. I didn't notice the life steal since i maxed out MoC first. Maybe after sb into satanic but I am not sure it satanic is useful at all until late game. I play solely jungle LC these days to tank MMR, so I can try any build that comes to mind. | ||
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xSJx
Canada50 Posts
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Ravensong170
United States858 Posts
On January 30 2014 13:11 xSJx wrote: Is it just me or is jungling awful after the MoC nerf (fix?) in 6.80? Its not awful, it just means you have to jungle more efficiently rather than afk right click. Before, her MoC was a sort of crutch for people not jungling as efficiently. So now you have to stack the camps when you can, and make sure to avoid hellbear/centaur camps until a higher level. Overall her jungling is worse, but she is still a strong jungler, and is probably still the second best jungler to not have a summon in the game(behind bat) (I guess you could make the case that she is as good as axe), but just need to play the jungle right and hope to not get Centaurs/hellbears. You should still try to mid lane or safe lane LC if you can. Just a more efficient place for her. Really only Jungle if there is both a Better mid and a better carry on your team. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
I think phaseboots is better then threads, its easier to get LC snowballing and phase combines better with the E-skill in the early game. I skipped armlet and went for an ogre club instead, that worked out well thx to the lower skillrequirement. I think Witchdoctor and omniknight combine well with this hero. I went for phase, ogre club, maelstrom, shadowblade etcetcetc.... I baptized it..... dliub-orcim-on  | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On January 31 2014 01:39 Ravensong170 wrote: Its not awful, it just means you have to jungle more efficiently rather than afk right click. Before, her MoC was a sort of crutch for people not jungling as efficiently. So now you have to stack the camps when you can, and make sure to avoid hellbear/centaur camps until a higher level. Overall her jungling is worse, but she is still a strong jungler, and is probably still the second best jungler to not have a summon in the game(behind bat) (I guess you could make the case that she is as good as axe), but just need to play the jungle right and hope to not get Centaurs/hellbears. You should still try to mid lane or safe lane LC if you can. Just a more efficient place for her. Really only Jungle if there is both a Better mid and a better carry on your team. Could you elaborate on what to do regarding Centaurs/hellbear spawns - what level would be good to start tackling them? Do I just bounce to other camps LC can handle early, stack the ones she can't, etc in the meantime? | ||
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Poetastrophe
Denmark21 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 15 2014 20:59 Belisarius wrote: Vlads doesn't work in duel either if LC is the one carrying it. It should, Doom/Duel don't disable auras. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6228 Posts
On January 31 2014 01:39 Ravensong170 wrote: Its not awful, it just means you have to jungle more efficiently rather than afk right click. Before, her MoC was a sort of crutch for people not jungling as efficiently. So now you have to stack the camps when you can, and make sure to avoid hellbear/centaur camps until a higher level. Overall her jungling is worse, but she is still a strong jungler, and is probably still the second best jungler to not have a summon in the game(behind bat) (I guess you could make the case that she is as good as axe), but just need to play the jungle right and hope to not get Centaurs/hellbears. You should still try to mid lane or safe lane LC if you can. Just a more efficient place for her. Really only Jungle if there is both a Better mid and a better carry on your team. Alright so on this.... What is a reasonable time for blink dagger now? It feels like much more than a minor nerf. If you get a centaur in a medium camp and anything except trolls in a hard camp early on, it sets you back enormously. Even abusing the small camp and screwing up your safelane, I find she still jungles far more slowly than is reasonable to make an impact with blink. If someone had a reply of a good blink timing (preferably of realistic spawns rather than that one game you got 3x troll 4x satyr), that would bea very much appreciated. EDIT: and now double post. I am really good at this today. | ||
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