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braincandy
Profile Joined February 2013
Philippines179 Posts
June 06 2014 22:00 GMT
#61
i think their weakness is that they cant play on LAN like how they play online YE. they're still a very young team when it comes to LAN. Universe is the only veteran in the team and mason is a first timer. PPD i think still needs help with in game decision making mid game to late. that is why i always think Fear the player player for EG overall because of what he can contribute to the team outside player skill and mechanics. too bad he got hurt, their young team could really benefit from his experience. i hope EG can just suck all the experience they can get from this tourney and learn a lot.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 06 2014 22:32 GMT
#62
EG keeps smashing the laning stage but then faltering in the mid game. Can't help but think if Fear was playing there would be less of these silly midgame mistakes like walking up a ramp with no vision into the entire other team etc.

Hopefully PPD can learn to put together a complete game plan and the team as a whole can mature from these LANs leading up to TI4 enough to have a decent showing there.

Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-06 23:17:48
June 06 2014 23:17 GMT
#63
the hype is gone

They need to be Fearless
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#64
PPD is synderen 2.0. Hes a great drafter and captain, but his teams don't do well against the very best becuase hes weak as a individual player. Plus mason doesn't actually play hard carry, so if rtz gets even slowed down they're fucked. Like mason was going aghs on gyro before the game was decided. You can put him on a hard carry, but hes going to play utility because thats just how they've been playing for months now.
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
June 07 2014 03:19 GMT
#65
On June 07 2014 09:21 Jaaaaasper wrote:
PPD is synderen 2.0. Hes a great drafter and captain, but his teams don't do well against the very best becuase hes weak as a individual player. Plus mason doesn't actually play hard carry, so if rtz gets even slowed down they're fucked. Like mason was going aghs on gyro before the game was decided. You can put him on a hard carry, but hes going to play utility because thats just how they've been playing for months now.
i think ppd is fine. the team doesn't have anyone to steer them through the midgame (ee-sama, fear) when they aren't crushing the early game.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 07 2014 17:44 GMT
#66
PPD is not a weak individual player. However he lacks a 10 year history in dota that gives the Chinese teams a large advantage in late game decision making. Having Fear was an invaluable resource of this knowledge but now the team is going to have to go through some growing pains as they have to figure it out without his experience to lean on.
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 07 2014 18:18 GMT
#67
ppd is doing fine. eg just need to work on their teamwork and stability which takes time.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
June 07 2014 19:18 GMT
#68
no disrespect to mason i think he is fitting in well in EG but if Fear was fine .. I think EG is a really really powerful team right now at least closely on par with DK.

They seem to be having problems in ingame decision making at times.
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Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 07 2014 19:34 GMT
#69
On June 07 2014 07:00 braincandy wrote:
i think their weakness is that they cant play on LAN like how they play online YE. they're still a very young team when it comes to LAN. Universe is the only veteran in the team and mason is a first timer. PPD i think still needs help with in game decision making mid game to late. that is why i always think Fear the player player for EG overall because of what he can contribute to the team outside player skill and mechanics. too bad he got hurt, their young team could really benefit from his experience. i hope EG can just suck all the experience they can get from this tourney and learn a lot.

Fear can still bring in the presense of coaching and what he has to offer from outside the game.
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Zero.Tha.Hero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada155 Posts
June 08 2014 04:39 GMT
#70
GG WP EG 2-0 Na'Vi!!!!!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 08 2014 04:43 GMT
#71
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 08 2014 04:47 GMT
#72
On June 08 2014 04:18 goody153 wrote:
no disrespect to mason i think he is fitting in well in EG but if Fear was fine .. I think EG is a really really powerful team right now at least closely on par with DK.

They seem to be having problems in ingame decision making at times.

This is Mason's first LAN. Plus the group stage drafts weren't great, as Zai just said. Their drafting today seemed much more solid.

Rocky start, but when you factor that for EG, this is their third LAN, all three with a different carry, that changes things a bit. They picked it up when it mattered most and now they secured another top 3 tournament finish.
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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
June 08 2014 15:57 GMT
#73
Arteezy is one shotting people in EG vs. VG.

Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
June 08 2014 23:15 GMT
#74
PPD playing out of his mind this tournament. Definitely not a weak link in terms of skill.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 03:03:19
June 09 2014 03:02 GMT
#75
GGWP EG, first western lan with eastern teams since MLG
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
June 09 2014 03:06 GMT
#76
Awesome play from EG last night/today!
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 09 2014 03:09 GMT
#77
Congrats to Mason. 1st LAN, win LAN.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
June 09 2014 03:10 GMT
#78
On June 07 2014 07:00 braincandy wrote:
i think their weakness is that they cant play on LAN like how they play online YE. they're still a very young team when it comes to LAN. Universe is the only veteran in the team and mason is a first timer. PPD i think still needs help with in game decision making mid game to late. that is why i always think Fear the player player for EG overall because of what he can contribute to the team outside player skill and mechanics. too bad he got hurt, their young team could really benefit from his experience. i hope EG can just suck all the experience they can get from this tourney and learn a lot.

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Or they can just learn what their problems are in 1 day and roll through the tournament.
Seriously, how quick they adapted and changed styles this tournament is SCARY.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-09 03:12:41
June 09 2014 03:12 GMT
#79
Called EG for top 3 at TI4 a few months ago. Glad they're living up to my expectations, even without Fear.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 09 2014 03:12 GMT
#80
EG definitely earned the win. I think Fear also had a large part in shaping their strategies.
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