i think their weakness is that they cant play on LAN like how they play online YE. they're still a very young team when it comes to LAN. Universe is the only veteran in the team and mason is a first timer. PPD i think still needs help with in game decision making mid game to late. that is why i always think Fear the player player for EG overall because of what he can contribute to the team outside player skill and mechanics. too bad he got hurt, their young team could really benefit from his experience. i hope EG can just suck all the experience they can get from this tourney and learn a lot.

Snorkle

United States1648 Posts

June 06 2014 22:32 GMT

#62

EG keeps smashing the laning stage but then faltering in the mid game. Can't help but think if Fear was playing there would be less of these silly midgame mistakes like walking up a ramp with no vision into the entire other team etc.

Hopefully PPD can learn to put together a complete game plan and the team as a whole can mature from these LANs leading up to TI4 enough to have a decent showing there.

Spicy_Curry

United States10573 Posts

June 06 2014 23:17 GMT

#63

the hype is gone

They need to be Fearless

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

June 07 2014 00:21 GMT

#64

PPD is synderen 2.0. Hes a great drafter and captain, but his teams don't do well against the very best becuase hes weak as a individual player. Plus mason doesn't actually play hard carry, so if rtz gets even slowed down they're fucked. Like mason was going aghs on gyro before the game was decided. You can put him on a hard carry, but hes going to play utility because thats just how they've been playing for months now.

Sprouter

United States1724 Posts

June 07 2014 03:19 GMT

#65

On June 07 2014 09:21 Jaaaaasper wrote:
PPD is synderen 2.0. Hes a great drafter and captain, but his teams don't do well against the very best becuase hes weak as a individual player. Plus mason doesn't actually play hard carry, so if rtz gets even slowed down they're fucked. Like mason was going aghs on gyro before the game was decided. You can put him on a hard carry, but hes going to play utility because thats just how they've been playing for months now.

i think ppd is fine. the team doesn't have anyone to steer them through the midgame (ee-sama, fear) when they aren't crushing the early game.

Snorkle

United States1648 Posts

June 07 2014 17:44 GMT

#66

PPD is not a weak individual player. However he lacks a 10 year history in dota that gives the Chinese teams a large advantage in late game decision making. Having Fear was an invaluable resource of this knowledge but now the team is going to have to go through some growing pains as they have to figure it out without his experience to lean on.

HighTimeDotA

Canada1412 Posts

June 07 2014 18:18 GMT

#67

ppd is doing fine. eg just need to work on their teamwork and stability which takes time.

goody153

44240 Posts

June 07 2014 19:18 GMT

#68

no disrespect to mason i think he is fitting in well in EG but if Fear was fine .. I think EG is a really really powerful team right now at least closely on par with DK.

They seem to be having problems in ingame decision making at times.

Adrian_mx

Mexico1880 Posts

June 07 2014 19:34 GMT

#69

On June 07 2014 07:00 braincandy wrote:
i think their weakness is that they cant play on LAN like how they play online YE. they're still a very young team when it comes to LAN. Universe is the only veteran in the team and mason is a first timer. PPD i think still needs help with in game decision making mid game to late. that is why i always think Fear the player player for EG overall because of what he can contribute to the team outside player skill and mechanics. too bad he got hurt, their young team could really benefit from his experience. i hope EG can just suck all the experience they can get from this tourney and learn a lot.

Fear can still bring in the presense of coaching and what he has to offer from outside the game.

Zero.Tha.Hero

Canada155 Posts

June 08 2014 04:39 GMT

#70

GG WP EG 2-0 Na'Vi!!!!!

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

June 08 2014 04:43 GMT

#71

USA USA USA

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

June 08 2014 04:47 GMT

#72

On June 08 2014 04:18 goody153 wrote:
no disrespect to mason i think he is fitting in well in EG but if Fear was fine .. I think EG is a really really powerful team right now at least closely on par with DK.

They seem to be having problems in ingame decision making at times.

This is Mason's first LAN. Plus the group stage drafts weren't great, as Zai just said. Their drafting today seemed much more solid.

Rocky start, but when you factor that for EG, this is their third LAN, all three with a different carry, that changes things a bit. They picked it up when it mattered most and now they secured another top 3 tournament finish.