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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
September 24 2014 16:23 GMT
#721
im really interested to see LC/terrorblade in 6.82, i reckon both heroes will be top tier picks. LC can lane anywhere (pref offlane/mid and terrorblade wrecks in a 4p1 if he's left alone and builds treads drums aquila yasha.
abar
Profile Joined May 2011
10 Posts
September 24 2014 16:23 GMT
#722
Best. Path. Ever. They did exactly all of those stuff I dreamed about. They even added added a path from top lane to top secret shop!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2014 16:23 GMT
#723
On September 25 2014 01:22 FinestHour wrote:
literally earth bender
the last earth spirit legend of kaolin book 1


Only the last Earth Bender can stop faceless void, the time bender:

http://www.gfycat.com/LikableLinedAgama

Seriously, that shit is hilarious.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 16:25:55
September 24 2014 16:24 GMT
#724
Played some more games on test realm. The phantom lancer is now even harder to kill, really hard to deal with. But he's at least lost his pushing power, so he's a interesting hero now. His puck+blink+mirror image skill is really confusing
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2014 16:25 GMT
#725
On September 25 2014 01:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Played some more games on test realm. The phantom lancer is now even harder to kill, really hard to deal with. But he's at least lost his pushing power, so he's a interesting hero now.

I am really excited to break out my difusal spear and play him again. He seems like a really fun hero now and will likely be more fun to play against.
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Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
September 24 2014 16:27 GMT
#726
PA is way stronger, both with the lack of showing up on minimaps + they nerfed a bunch of her counters (doom, chrono, duel) You now have a very very big window where you are absolutely insane tanky once you have BKB and before the other team has mkb

Void wasn't nerfed that much, still perfectly viable just less OP which I like

FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2014 16:30 GMT
#727
long ago earth spirit morphling lina skywrath mage and the four nations all lived in harmony
then everything changed when shadow fiend with arcana attacked
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LukeCard
Profile Joined September 2014
5 Posts
September 24 2014 16:34 GMT
#728

Its also an item that requires charges to be used and still is better defensively than offensive.

They will probably change the cold snap and sticky napalm ones (maybe refraction as well) but I'd bet that blink is going to stay as is. Blink needed a nerf and making a charge based item 'counter' it seems okay to me.


It's also got insanely long range and no cast point.

I understand the blink change might be intentional. I don't like it, but I understand it.

The other spell interaction is dumb and should be removed.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
September 24 2014 16:34 GMT
#729
Going highground might be amuch greater risk this version. If icefrog decided to put in crimson guard exactly to make it easier, hats off to him.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4549 Posts
September 24 2014 16:38 GMT
#730
Has it been really 9 years since 5.84c/d and a new major map layout since for 6.00? Or did I miss out any major map changes in between?
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11821 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 16:40:12
September 24 2014 16:39 GMT
#731
Sad they changed the play style on techies away from pushing into even more mining for kills. That severe reduction on tower damage. :/

Land Mines damage reduced from 300/400/500/600 to 225/300/375/450

At least on lesh they added a + % for tower damage when they did the change. :/

On September 25 2014 01:38 LennX wrote:
Has it been really 9 years since 5.84c/d and a new major map layout since for 6.00? Or did I miss out any major map changes in between?


They redid a lot of the tree positions and juke spots sometime between 6.4 and now.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 24 2014 16:40 GMT
#732
im fine with techies nerfs tho
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11821 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 16:42:49
September 24 2014 16:40 GMT
#733
On September 25 2014 01:40 Sn0_Man wrote:
im fine with techies nerfs tho


Overall techies was buffed, only the type that afk mines though. Not the active pushing type, that was somewhat nerfed.

My complaint is about how they are pigeon-holing the hero, not about relative strengths.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 16:41:18
September 24 2014 16:40 GMT
#734
On September 24 2014 18:37 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 18:23 Laserist wrote:
Elder scepter is the worst scepter upgrade ever, considering other aghs upgrades. It is a nice edition but not enough for 4200 extra gold.


most aghs aren't

people act like the Earth Spirit/Chen aghs are going to break the meta but Forcestaff/Mek/Hex are still a much better investment.

edit: though I will say, Puck's aghs got a well deserved buff, finally. It might actually be somewhat worth buying. Somewhat. Someplace. Maybe. Ehhh, nevermind it's still shit.

On chen? I mean Mek is kinda a must to heal up creeps and because of the armor.
But that aghs buff is a huge buff to the hero, as long as the ulti buff is the same with it
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2014 16:43 GMT
#735
just have ur teammate forcestaff coiled enemy heroes if you buy aghs easiest 4.5 second stun of your life
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 24 2014 16:50 GMT
#736
every aghs upgrade/change ever leading up to a patch : this is imba, 2 strong 4 game, summon the reddit army, icefraud

when the patch comes out : this shit's garbage, never a big deal or just fine.

Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
September 24 2014 16:52 GMT
#737
im ok with them removing Tinker, but cant they remove void too, please?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 24 2014 16:52 GMT
#738
On September 25 2014 01:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
every aghs upgrade/change ever leading up to a patch : this is imba, 2 strong 4 game, summon the reddit army, icefraud

when the patch comes out : this shit's garbage, never a big deal or just fine.


Aghs changes are typically the most over hyped thing in a patch notes.

The only ones that I consider worth while in this one is ES (since his second item is always awkard), and I could see an argument for a latergame Timber.

Oh and tree. Might make the argument for Agh's tree after mana boots.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 24 2014 16:53 GMT
#739
Somebody tried to imply that the phoenix aghs change made it "core" on that hero in TDL's thread LOL.

What a fucking atrocious aghs upgrade.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 24 2014 16:56 GMT
#740
See Phoenix going for aghs, quickly go into options and disable help. Continue with game.
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