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On May 31 2012 21:50 vBr wrote:
I have a question, how do I enjoy the wizard class properly? I levelled a DH and a WD before, and wizard was the last range to finish off. However, Wizard is just so much more boring. I played with magic missiles and arcane orb, which seems to be the best combo (level 40ish) but got so bored that I swaped to spectral blade (or whatever it is called). Since I play hardcore, it is however not exactly ideal.
Any advice to spice up the adventure?
I find both magic missle and arcane orb boring as well. Magic missle imo sucks because its little to no aoe. I prefer to use electrocute at long range and shock pulse with explosive bolts for closer encounters. For chain freezing you can use frost nova w/ shatter on a pack of mobs and shock pulse w/ explosive bolts makes enemies start exploding and starts a chain reaction.
And for secondary so far I prefer disintegrate over arcane orb. Arcane orb is often too slow and blows up on some little shit standing in front of the mob you really want to hit. You don't have that issue with disintegrate.
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On May 31 2012 21:50 vBr wrote:
I have a question, how do I enjoy the wizard class properly? I levelled a DH and a WD before, and wizard was the last range to finish off. However, Wizard is just so much more boring. I played with magic missiles and arcane orb, which seems to be the best combo (level 40ish) but got so bored that I swaped to spectral blade (or whatever it is called). Since I play hardcore, it is however not exactly ideal.
Any advice to spice up the adventure?
Try switching to Piercing Orb and Chaos Nexus, those are pretty amusing and still very effective and safe.
Meteor Shower and Archon are also extremely satisfying 
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On May 31 2012 21:12 Phael wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 20:13 Markwerf wrote:On May 31 2012 19:52 Kvz wrote:
I'm a little bit confused. I'm a lvl 60 wizard, cleared all the way to diablo on inferno using missiles/orb with slow. venom hydra and teleport (fracture) / diamond skin.
I run at 1633 int / 952 vitality, with 44347 hp and 37737.24 dps with unbuffed ~300 resists. I'm starting to gear into the min-max phase and this whole topic of resistance is just boggling my mind.
For example, bracer X vs bracer Y,
X has 125int, 104 vitality, 32 all resistance.
Y has 133int, 128 vitality, 34 cold resistance.
Y favors in terms of int/vitality, but X offers 32 resist to all. Which is the superior item in this case? I have identical questions in regards to a pair of chestpieces and a pair of pants. I'm not sure how heavy to factor in 1 pt of resist vs 1 pt of int or vitality. It depends on your base stats already. 10 points of all resistance is equal to about +3.1% life. So the question basically is: is +10% EHP worth more to you then +8 int, +16 vit and +34 cold. If your vitality and intelligence are already pretty high then it's likely that is the case and bracer X will be better, otherwise bracer Y could be. Overall cold resistance seems the worst resistance to me (really few mobs have it and when they do the freezing is more troublesome then the damage). For a wizard I would definately aim to gear towards lower HP more resists/armor. The reason is simply that diamond skin and healing effects are much more effective on low HP, with that in mind i'd lean even more towards X but if you're not a diamond skin user you might have to reconsider. Edit: missed you already stated your stats. In your case X is FAR better. The 32 all resist counts as giving ~4400 hp, the 16 vitality difference only counts for 560 hp. The 8 int difference has a negligible effect on your dmg basically. Overall looking at your stats you seem to have too many +vit items and too few +all resist. +all resist really are some of the best items out there because they give rediculous high bonusses, 300 resists with 1600ish int is really low it means you only have about +140 all resist from items. At 44k hp 1 point of all resist is almost as good as 4 points of vitality. My suggestion would be to start stacking dps via int and speed. 37k is really low for act 3/4. My wiz clears all of act 3/4 without any issues and has 38k/320 resists, but 65k dps. And finally, if you value 1 int = 1 vit like most later stage wizards, then the all resists bracer is slightly better, by a marginal amount. I use int-equivalent points; bracer x is 277 points while bracer y is 269.
Ugh those are my stats in act 4 except I have 35k DPS with force weapon instead of 65k 
Relatedly, does anyone know of any good chest runs that are still active? I missed out on all that fun and at this point I'd pull out my hair if I did any more act 1-2 farming.
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OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell.
If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed?
If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed?
If you care to explain why I would love you
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On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you
2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS.
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I didn't get an answer at the other thread for this item:
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How much is this worth? I'm selling my off-hands since I'm strictly going 2-handers now. NA server.
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if you are asking those questions, you are probably have no clue what you are doing (no offense) and best just stick with 2 hand weapon. Personally i prefer 1 handed bc there are a lot of stuff to manipulate around the game and test out different builds/ bonuses is always fun. 2 Hand weapon is simple, easy, cheaper to find (instead of paying 1 mil for each 2 weapon, u only need to pay 1 mil for 1).
On another note: how does the crit mechanic works with AoE skills like AO or majority of the DOTs(venom, fire burn from meteor)?What about skills that could deal damage a lot of times like ShockPluse or Electrocute or RayofFrost/Disintegrate? Also, is the right click of archon bring the attack speed to max? This meaning 2 handed is better for archon centric builds?
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On June 01 2012 01:41 trinxified wrote:I didn't get an answer at the other thread for this item: How much is this worth? I'm selling my off-hands since I'm strictly going 2-handers now. NA server.
try 80k-200k... those are nice int and the life % is cute but the dex + life regen is worthless. The damage isnt that top notch either. GL.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
Invulnerable minions, molten, vortex, fast. Act 3 quillbacks.
Fuck my life.
edit: wtf for some reason his minions bugged out and started suiciding themselves and I was able to kill the gold guy. Hmm.
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Lalalaland34491 Posts
And around the corner, extra health + fast + mortar + electrified soul rippers.
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On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS.
Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those, and I only spent about 2 million for my source + weapon.
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On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those.
Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better.
I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well.
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On June 01 2012 01:48 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 01:41 trinxified wrote:I didn't get an answer at the other thread for this item: How much is this worth? I'm selling my off-hands since I'm strictly going 2-handers now. NA server. try 80k-200k... those are nice int and the life % is cute but the dex + life regen is worthless. The damage isnt that top notch either. GL.
Thanks. I got it sold for 150k. 15% killed it though
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On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well.
hydra/blizz build also has MM on it right?
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On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well.
What other stats does that 1280dps give? Because everytime I looked on AH the vit and Int were both far too low for me to consider the affordable 1000+dps 2 handers.
Also, I am working on using my primary spell of Electrocute with Lightning Blast because Blizzard + Venom Hydra + primary spell that pierces all targets in a line is utterly disgusting damage.
On June 01 2012 02:43 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. hydra/blizz build also has MM on it right?
Also, this. It usually does from what I've seen from most people's builds. I prefer Electrocute for maximum AoE damage.
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On June 01 2012 02:43 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. hydra/blizz build also has MM on it right?
I was under the impression that only a minority of hydra/blizz people took MM. If that's not accurate anymore then ignore my post.
On June 01 2012 02:45 NEOtheONE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. What other stats does that 1280dps give? Because everytime I looked on AH the vit and Int were both far too low for me to consider the affordable 1000+dps 2 handers. Also, I am working on using my primary spell of Electrocute with Lightning Blast because Blizzard + Venom Hydra + primary spell that pierces all targets in a line is utterly disgusting damage.
Nothing. But 100 int is like a 7% dps increase for me and if you want a decent dps weapon + stats it seems you need a rare since without 2 damage affixes you don't get enough damage. Shelling out a huge premium for a rare with 3 handpicked stats just wasn't worth it for me so I spent the money elsewhere. The market is flooded with the blues from the aspects.
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what would for example 1200dps+300int be in pure dps in a 2hand weapon (pure dps=no int just dmg)? maybe someone has possibility to compare ^_^
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On June 01 2012 02:51 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:43 trinxified wrote:On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. hydra/blizz build also has MM on it right? I was under the impression that only a minority of hydra/blizz people took MM. If that's not accurate anymore then ignore my post. Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:45 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. What other stats does that 1280dps give? Because everytime I looked on AH the vit and Int were both far too low for me to consider the affordable 1000+dps 2 handers. Also, I am working on using my primary spell of Electrocute with Lightning Blast because Blizzard + Venom Hydra + primary spell that pierces all targets in a line is utterly disgusting damage. Nothing. But 100 int is like a 7% dps increase for me and if you want a decent dps weapon + stats it seems you need a rare since without 2 damage affixes you don't get enough damage. Shelling out a huge premium for a rare with 3 handpicked stats just wasn't worth it for me so I spent the money elsewhere. The market is flooded with the blues from the aspects.
Isn't this the "typical" blizz/hydra build? Diamond Skin is the utility that can be changed up...
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#alRXSO!YXW!cYbaZY
Although I have thought about using a different signature spell for AOE damage.
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On June 01 2012 03:04 zomgE wrote:
what would for example 1200dps+300int be in pure dps in a 2hand weapon (pure dps=no int just dmg)? maybe someone has possibility to compare ^_^
Is this assuming no other INT/AS?spell buffs/crit chance/crit damage already on the character? Because there are a lot of variables from just the limited information you are giving.
Now if we are assuming everything else = 0 then a 1200dps that gives 300 int = 300% dps buff or 400% of weapon damage so 4800 dps.
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On June 01 2012 02:51 diophan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:43 trinxified wrote:On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. hydra/blizz build also has MM on it right? I was under the impression that only a minority of hydra/blizz people took MM. If that's not accurate anymore then ignore my post. Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 02:45 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 02:23 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 02:19 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 01 2012 01:35 diophan wrote:On June 01 2012 00:59 Elenar wrote:OK, im level 55 act 2 Hell. If I go Hydra + AO should i go 1 or 2handed? If I go Hydra + blizzard should i go 1 or 2handed? If you care to explain why I would love you 2 handed for both. The damage of AO and blizzard are both off of weapon damage not DPS. Not exactly. In the first case 2 handed is better because AO makes more sense with a crit based build with consistently high damage. In the second case you are relying more on the Hydra damage which is affected by AS. Blizzard is there more for the purpose of the snare + longer slow than AO has. Also, for those of us who already have pretty decent 1 hand + source it simply isn't cost efficient to switch to 2 handed. I can pick up slightly better 1 handed weapon for about 1 million (if I really need to) and the only sources on AH better than mine are 10 mil+. On the other hand in order to compensate for the Vitality and Intelligence I would lose by switching to 2 hand, the 2H requires 200 INT and 200 VIT which asking price is 5 million+ for those. Has someone actually calculated the % of damage from blizzard vs. venom hydra? After playing it for a long time I felt like blizzard was around 25%. The guy also doesn't have one or the other ATM. IMO if you're not sure what to use get a 2 hander because you can use it for both. You can't base your argument on "I found this source for a steal" so 1hand+source is better. I paid 1.4mil a couple days ago for my 1280 dps, .9 attack speed 2 hander. I have a hard time believing you can get close to that much DPS from a 1hand+source for that price, factoring in int. So sure you lose some vit but at the cost of damage. The only time I think using 1 hander+source is definitely better is when you're using MM as well. What other stats does that 1280dps give? Because everytime I looked on AH the vit and Int were both far too low for me to consider the affordable 1000+dps 2 handers. Also, I am working on using my primary spell of Electrocute with Lightning Blast because Blizzard + Venom Hydra + primary spell that pierces all targets in a line is utterly disgusting damage. Nothing. But 100 int is like a 7% dps increase for me and if you want a decent dps weapon + stats it seems you need a rare since without 2 damage affixes you don't get enough damage. Shelling out a huge premium for a rare with 3 handpicked stats just wasn't worth it for me so I spent the money elsewhere. The market is flooded with the blues from the aspects.
Most people don't use a signature spell w/ AO. While I wouldn't say MM is absolutely required in a blizz/hydra build I certainly don't see how that slot could be used better.
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