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quakquak
Profile Joined April 2020
21 Posts
March 25 2021 15:13 GMT
#1
Hello everyone!!

I want to get out there a problem that we are having regarding BWCL and I find it quite serious so I'm wondering if I can get feedback/help from other users in the community.

I know what u are thinking: If it's a BWCL problem why we don't talk with the admins or try to fix it in their discords.

Well, let me hold u right there. We actually cant since the main admin iccup.FAce (AKA: Roia) isn't willing to answer any questions or inquires that players are making.

What's the issue?

Audrey "irk.Marwin" was unilaterally banned by ICCUP.Face by disrespectful behavior to his person on march 21st since there was a "nonstop harassment" to the tournament admin.

Since these, are indeed, serious accusations we found it kinda strange that a player like marwin acted this way.

What was asked?

Any kind of proof that could back up this allegation. We must learn what was said exactly and what happened in order to take care of it.

As I mentioned before when proof was asked for, Iccup.Face just ignored everyone and refuse to provide it for us.

So how can we know this wasn't a personal matter or if this was, indeed, nonstop harassment by Marwin?

Since Face /Roia isn't answering any messages and just decided to go silent i ask for help to try to fix this matter.

How to handle a situation where just 1 person makes a decision and refuses to talk with everyone refusing to explain or to provide evidence of his call.
What can be done when there is no communication and there is no one to turn to?

Thanks for your time


IMJIRAIYA
Profile Joined August 2018
61 Posts
March 25 2021 17:09 GMT
#2
Iccup.face is known to be erratic so this doesn't surprise me. I'd relieve him from any admin responsibilities.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 25 2021 17:13 GMT
#3
i've never heard of anyone having bm issues with marwin, hopefully this gets resolved in a positive manner.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1808 Posts
March 25 2021 17:13 GMT
#4
As stated here by iCCup.Face, it wasn't anything to do with BM: https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/570125-bwcl-season-53-preview-and-registration#18

On March 25 2021 00:41 iCCup.Face wrote:
@eNjOy.-Raizen Maps are not ready yet.

@Ollin The reason was written at discord, just scroll up and read.
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I don't accept the gratuit disrespect from people, not provoked or anything, moreover from those who know me since 15 years.
I invest a lot of work and time here and I'm not interested to work for those guys.

In the specific case Marwin was warned to stop his disrespectful behavior against me as person the 1st of March via PM by me and via his team leader iRk-Agge, penalty the temp ban from the league, the 21 of March, 20 days later of non-stop harassment the penalty was given.
I've also said this has nothing concerning any BM (understood as words offense) and even if he did, I've never banned anyone while BM me as player in 12 years, again just read #squad leader. So please don't add fake news or add troll/flame as I see many iRk members doing at discord.

On side note I want to say it's 2+ years, me as player, to avoid bad situations, don't join into Marwin/Madinho created lobby, so take your considerations on what's been said or told lately.

I'm not going to reply in general chats where everyone can comes and troll, so don't expect me to reply at anything else in public channels.


It also seems that even other admins have no further information.
And it's also not just Marwin who was banned for a season, dM-Depleted as well.
LML
quakquak
Profile Joined April 2020
21 Posts
March 25 2021 17:48 GMT
#5
I believe this is an emotional/personal matter since silence has been made and no proof came to the table.

I'm really sad because, in times like these, we are supposed to talk this out easily. We are all grown men and we know that we can work everything out

I mean, everyone is entitled to make a mistake or even be angry but a lot of time has passed and the silence grew heavier.

No one questions his effort or his work but we are asking for transparency. Just to understand why he came to that decision by himself.
Team leaders, BWCL sponsors, anyone please help this workout.

tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19266 Posts
March 25 2021 18:07 GMT
#6
If you have a problem with ICCUP, go to ICCUP.
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