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BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
April 15 2007 02:16 GMT
#161
On April 15 2007 10:57 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2007 10:55 Rekrul wrote:
On April 15 2007 10:49 MYM.Testie wrote:
On April 15 2007 10:45 Rekrul wrote:
I didn't know WDT was a lie until after the fact.


My apologies then. I am sorry.


Me too. I don't hate you at all actually. Sorry to Draco too. Testie and Draco aren't that bad.


Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It's like the ending of an episode of Dawson's Creek.


LOLL XDDD

anyways.
i remember long time ago i made a post about how i thought artosis was highly overrated too and i got flamed the hell out of by like every member of TL.net.
WHAT'S HAPPENIN
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 15 2007 02:17 GMT
#162
"I'm kicking myself a bit. Smuft will need to improve his late game a lot though to succeed in China." <--- Sure, what you said may very well be true about Smuft, Mister Testie, but you just lost 0-2 against someone who you have NEVER won a single tournament game against and you're telling him he needs to improve his late game to succeed in China? You think you're the #1 foreigner, you have a massive ego, yet you tell the guy who always rapes you that he needs to improve his game? If you're the #1 and he beats you who the fuck is going to beat him? Your logic makes absolutely no fucking sense.


You don't have to be a nuclear scientist to realize that something wrong went down at Chernobyl. So you don't need to be better than someone to tell them where they need to improve. But if they don't think they need to, then you shut up.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1020 Posts
April 15 2007 02:19 GMT
#163
On April 15 2007 10:41 MYM.Testie wrote:
Artosis and [media] thinks they are hot shit and make excuses when they lose. I think, "damn Smuft, that was risky. But you outplayed me".
(He outplayed me because I found out about the strat, and could have stopped it, but he had superior micro and strategy and handled me from start to finish).


Yea, because you're such a great person and would never make excuses. But you would map hack for years, forum troll, self promote and be an egotistical fuck bag for the remaining. Idiot.

Please, no one wants to be included in threads that have anything to do with you (so stop including them), and stop including yourself in threads that aren't about you. I've never seen someone so hungry for attention... jesus christ, does Testie drama ever just fucking stop?

I'll also add that Artosis & Smuft play ALL THE FUCKING TIME. They're friends. It wasn't like he was going off on some kid he doesn't know, and Artosis does this to all his friends when he loses (we do it to each other because we find it funny/we get to vent -- nothing wrong with that and he definitely doesn't do this all day long to random people, so get off his balls).

Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2007 02:20 GMT
#164
Doing it to a friend is worse than to a random scrub.
why so 진지해?
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4409 Posts
April 15 2007 02:20 GMT
#165
On April 15 2007 10:41 MYM.Testie wrote:
I never said i'd get anywhere in korea, i've always spoken like even getting into a starleague is an amazing achievement.


100% agree that qualifying for a Starleague in Korea is a huge achievement that all foreigner SC fans never forget those who make it. I hope you give it a go Testie.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
April 15 2007 02:28 GMT
#166
Artosis definitely thinks he's hot shit... he needs to stfu
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
April 15 2007 02:29 GMT
#167
On April 15 2007 11:09 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2007 11:06 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
rekrul folds.


stfu please.


-_-
It takes a fool to remain sane.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
April 15 2007 02:36 GMT
#168
I think everyoe is getting a little bit cranky, because WCG is comming up.

I think everyone should go take a nap.

I think therefore I am.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
April 15 2007 02:36 GMT
#169
Rekul does have a good point however compared to Koreans, foreigners are not even close in skill level.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-15 02:44:38
April 15 2007 02:44 GMT
#170
Skew, the very first post addressed me directly. I responded. Rek is worth responding to, your nonsense is not. This is how I find [media] conducts itself. IdrA is the most level headed out of you, and by far the most respectable. This is what, a week old?
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Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
April 15 2007 02:45 GMT
#171
On April 15 2007 11:19 Skew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2007 10:41 MYM.Testie wrote:
Artosis and [media] thinks they are hot shit and make excuses when they lose. I think, "damn Smuft, that was risky. But you outplayed me".
(He outplayed me because I found out about the strat, and could have stopped it, but he had superior micro and strategy and handled me from start to finish).


Yea, because you're such a great person and would never make excuses. But you would map hack for years, forum troll, self promote and be an egotistical fuck bag for the remaining. Idiot.

Please, no one wants to be included in threads that have anything to do with you (so stop including them), and stop including yourself in threads that aren't about you. I've never seen someone so hungry for attention... jesus christ, does Testie drama ever just fucking stop?

I'll also add that Artosis & Smuft play ALL THE FUCKING TIME. They're friends. It wasn't like he was going off on some kid he doesn't know, and Artosis does this to all his friends when he loses (we do it to each other because we find it funny/we get to vent -- nothing wrong with that and he definitely doesn't do this all day long to random people, so get off his balls).


except he does...
aka StormtoSS
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
April 15 2007 02:46 GMT
#172
#Testie

LOL.. How come you ahve random screen shots of chat logs.. or are you going planning to use it in court. :p
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
April 15 2007 02:47 GMT
#173
And how come this thread hasn't been closed for flamming and trolling.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-15 02:53:52
April 15 2007 02:47 GMT
#174
That is why I like WCG-like events, foreigners may lag way behind in skill compared to Koreans, but at least you get a good idea who the better players are and Korean domination is always the final exclamation point since they always the first spots. It is a place anyone can go prove themselves too. I wish there were more WCG-like events.

I always knew Korean Pro-gamers were way above the rest, but at Blizzcon I saw it with my own eyes. They did not just win, they were there for the show, they toyed with the foreigners. I saw how the Korean pro-gamers literally toyed with Testie and company. I am not saying I can read minds but almost when it comes to faces, hopes and disappointments. I saw it too in Mondy\\\'s and Testie\\\'s faces - they knew too that they had been toyed with. It was rather disheartening.

Anyway this thread is depressing for the average StarCraft fan, i.e the majority, me included, for whom the likes of Testie, Draco and Mondy are highly skilled gamers from a relative perspective. Foreingners do lag way behind the pro-gamers and many top amateur Koreans.

We do have some excuses at this stage.

Foreigners collectively only from about 30% of total StarCraft players and less than 5% of the competitive playing field (in absolute numbers).
Learning StarCraft is augmented tremendously by LAN environment and having competition around you. Numbers do matter., which is why Russia will always have an excess of top Chess players for example - Russia has around 1 million competitive Chess players. Foreigners are for the most part all spread out across the world, each one pretty isolated, and some good players for years only had themselves and their home computers before they actually got to see other skilled players game live or do some LAN practice.

China might make the difference one day but they are so limited with their connectivity and government we might just never know.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2007 02:47 GMT
#175
i SS shit like that too

one keystroke and bam forum ownage
why so 진지해?
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
April 15 2007 02:48 GMT
#176
On April 15 2007 11:46 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
#Testie

LOL.. How come you ahve random screen shots of chat logs.. or are you going planning to use it in court. :p


nonono some other dude posted this a while ago~~

it's not testie hes talking to
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2007 02:49 GMT
#177
On April 15 2007 11:47 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
And how come this thread hasn't been closed for flamming and trolling.


isn't that why it was opened you dumb fuck
why so 진지해?
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 15 2007 02:49 GMT
#178
This is the first time I've seen someone on the "inside" of WDT actually admit it was a scam. I seem to remember long afterwards Rekrul would tell people ilnp's ZvT was just "more solid than a dino terd".

I don't understand why people forgive it, either. It has to be _by far_ the shittiest thing anyone has done in the history of Starctraft. Has there been anything done to redeem it?

At least we got brood war chart out of it as a result.
wtf was that signature
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 15 2007 02:50 GMT
#179
Smuft wants to do something to give back for his mistakes, WKT was a plan, and still will happen, but nothing yet.
why so 진지해?
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
April 15 2007 02:52 GMT
#180
On April 15 2007 11:47 Physician wrote:
Learning StarCraft is augmented tremendously by LAN environment and having competition around you. Numbers do matter, which is why Russia will always have an excess of top Chess players for example - Russia has around 1 million competitive Chess players, more than the rest of the world put together. Foreigners are for the most part all spread out across the world, each one pretty isolated, and some good players for years only had themselves and their home computers before they actually got to see other skilled players game live or do some LAN practice.


Why does this make a difference on the internet?
wtf was that signature
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