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i was thinking about this today in my class, how the world has too many people, and the average quality is going down. at some point we are going to have to face it. people are going to have to die.
who do you think should die? obviously we can't do it on a case by case basis. that's too much overhead cost.
so which groups should we "thin"? and which method? we need a method that would sweep away the weaker ones. maybe highschool dropouts could be killed. teenage mothers? people who live with their parents in their 30's. i'm not saying they have to die, just, they should be first on the list.
but that's just one pov, the cool thing to say. if you really think in practical terms maybe several of these stereotypes are actually more important. in a way they're all more important than the annoying child, or the prisoners. shouldn't prisoners just be put to death? come on. i'm never going to prison, and neither is anyone i know. so fuck 'em? why house them, seems stupid.
another thing. too many people have money. that's what art is going downhill. fucking britney speares and the like. i think we should beat out this middle class. educating more people is just lowering the standard of education so more people can be included in the "educated" class. all these numbskulls are learning nothing and it's making the degrees worth nothing. how many middle aged people do you know who simply say "well i used to know calc and chem, and i read shakespeare"--wow, good for you. pull the trigger.
besides manual labor, everyone else is just excess. we should ship 'em to china and i'm sure they'll figure out a solution to overpopulation. worthless "consumers"--humbug. annex their money and send their bodies to china, i say. cleaner that way, than letting them live out their rotten pathetic existence as bottom management fakers fooling no one, trading out one misery for the next, in the name of whatever keeps them going, that never arrives. why let them bother? trim the fat.
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Braavos36362 Posts
ok ok something positive something positive...
...you look like snoopy.
ok something negative...
...you have smelly dog farts.
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is awesome32243 Posts
How about people surfing on the internet with too much time on their hands?
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MURICA15980 Posts
Random, incoherent rant...
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go back to your britney spears, you 3. and put a yellow star on your shirt.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 14 2006 21:04 mitsy wrote: and put a yellow star on your shirt.
too bad that doesnt make people disappear anymore
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On February 14 2006 21:03 Klogon wrote: Random, incoherent rant...
Heh, typical blog entry eh?
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Braavos36362 Posts
[ ] Read the 10 Commandments [ ] Use the Search Function [ ] Old [X] Get a fucking blog [ ] Pointless Personal Attack [X] Closed Soon [ ] Fayth is cooler than you [X] Incoherent Mitsy Rant [ ] Even rpf isn't this self centered [ ] If Fakesteve created this thread, it'd be funnier [ ] Ekii? [ ] You're not Rekrul, nobody cares about your stories
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i arrive, for serious, coherent, discussion. but there is nobody there who can stand with me. nobody. [X] The joke's always on most of you.
what is ur criteria for "incoherent"? something like this: [ ] -_- trying to prove something [ ] random letters [X] paragraphs with more than 3 lines [X] several paragraphs each with a different idea [ ] sentences don't relate to eachother [X] words i don't understand so i assume they weren't necessary
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i recognize these threads for what they are yet i have no interest in how they turn out
might be a hint to you there stimey
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lol steve? you are the most boring person i know of. you act like ur taste would have some authority with me. you flamboyantly love and wrist flick the most boring things imaginable. you re the LOLiest of all.
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Baltimore, USA22221 Posts
It still amazes me that people reply to his stupid shit. T_T
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On February 14 2006 21:07 mitsy wrote: i arrive, for serious, coherent, discussion. but there is nobody there who can stand with me. nobody. [X] The joke's always on most of you.
Well, your post is highly opinionated, and there's very little room for discussion (other than I agree or I disagree).
At this point, I think most people learned not to argue with you. By posting something of little relevance, they are actually saying "I disagree with what you are posting, but I don't have time for a debate". Afterall, you should thank those people -- it is because of them, your thread didn't sink like lead in water.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i don't know how the subtlties of comedy have eluded you so long
come back when you're funnier okay
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On February 14 2006 21:14 EvilTeletubby wrote: It still amazes me that people reply to his stupid shit. T_T it amazes me you still bother to comment on me when you've never showed anything but a bias for degrading anything attributed to me with unfunny 1-liners, never any contribution, discussion, or support
On February 14 2006 21:15 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i don't know how the subtlties of comedy have eluded you so long
come back when you're funnier okay if all people did on this site was what was funny to you, no one would come here but you and the 6 fags who want to be you.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
You and your denial of rights...sigh.
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On February 14 2006 21:14 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2006 21:07 mitsy wrote: i arrive, for serious, coherent, discussion. but there is nobody there who can stand with me. nobody. [X] The joke's always on most of you. Well, your post is highly opinionated, and there's very little room for discussion (other than I agree or I disagree). i think that's where you're wrong. anyone honest should be comfortable disagreeing and having meat to discuss it. if u disagree but can't say why, what are you?
At this point, I think most people learned not to argue with you. By posting something of little relevance, they are actually saying "I disagree with what you are posting, but I don't have time for a debate". Afterall, you should thank those people -- it is because of them, your thread didn't sink like lead in water. they don't have to argue with me. they can ignore whatever they choose to, respond to whatever they choose to.
a broad subject matter was put forward and ppl have an opinion on it, but they are cowards, and focus on me instead of their disagreements. they use me to escape themselves.
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What's wrong with people, I like people, the more people the better. The problem is not with too many people or who should die, it all about how to bestly use our resources to serve those people.
Take this example, when you drive your car you are only 20% of the engergy created by the engine actually went to the wheels the rest is wasted if we can improve efficiency how much resource can that save?
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million, you are educated in american public schools right?
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is awesome32243 Posts
Yes misty, we escape ourselves. *cut* *cut* *cry*
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shouldn't prisoners just be put to death? come on. i'm never going to prison, and neither is anyone i know. so fuck 'em? why house them, seems stupid.
how easy would be to bribe a judge to get rid of people you don't like. and I know you would not survive that long in a system like that mitsy.
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hey camila, shit happens? how easy is it to get away with murder? or to bribe a cop, even easier? or a hitman who has no motive and will disappear and never be identified? shit happens, my friend. most people had it coming. some don't. it's less likely to happen to you than natural causes, accidents, lightning. u don't fuck up the whole world and everyone's life to feel better about little fate bullshits like that. it's not a worthwhile tradeoff.
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My list of people that should die/be thrown into the sun/eliminated first due to overpopulation:
1) mitsy 2-infinity) no one else
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is awesome32243 Posts
On February 14 2006 21:31 mitsy wrote: hey camila, shit happens? how easy is it to get away with murder? or to bribe a cop, even easier? or a hitman who has no motive and will disappear and never be identified? shit happens, my friend. most people had it coming. some don't. it's less likely to happen to you than natural causes, accidents, lightning. u don't fuck up the whole world and everyone's life to feel better about little fate bullshits like that. it's not a worthwhile tradeoff.
Yeah shit happens, lets make the world an anus.
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You know I remember once in high school I changed my morning schedule so my literature class got bumped to a new hour... which happened to be the 'slow kids' class (not like retarded, just learning disabled or w/e). One day we got in a discussion about Iraq (I had the teacher for two years, he was an awesome guy and always got in discussions but this semester with the idiots was hilarious because they had no idea why they had any of their opinions). So one kid chimes in: "I think that war is good because it keeps the population under control". Of course the kid was dead serious and the rest of the class just sat there nodding their heads.
In reflection, I think I agree with mitsy on this one. I have no idea what those kids were doing still in school, and the funny thing is a few of them wanted to go into the military (if I remember correctly, so did the kid that said this). So if they want to go fight to lower the population, who am I to stop them? At least I won't have to take any more classes with them.
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Australia3818 Posts
Homeless people.
I mean they used the idea in Blade...they were draining the blood out of the homeless. But it was to help evil vampires, so I guess in both ways it was a bad idea.
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thedeadhaji
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plz stop responing to this thread.
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yeah really... if you can trick someone out of their life, or their education, did you really do a bad thing?
and the homeless. they are already GG'd. same as prisoners. it's like, if someone out there can't handle the 4 pool, why pretend they can play bw with you? 4 pool them every game until they quit bw.
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This seems like the classic ethical problem of the sinking life boat.
Basically, you are the one in charge (you are the strongest, you are the captain, you have a gun, whatever). There's doctors, a plumber, single ppl, couples, mothers, fathers, etc. on a sinking life raft. Some people must be thrown overboard to save the others--the water is freezing and there is no chance of survival or "sharing" of the lifeboat (ie some ppl swim and they rotate).
If not all can survive, who should die?
Apparently, this happend and the person in charge decided to throw over people who he thought didn't deserve to live...ie the plumber and single men.
But when the case was brought to the courts, it was decided that he did not have the right to decide who should die. When not all can survive, the ethical way to decide is to draw straws.
If we try to apply the same case to the world, I believe certain people should be exempted from drawing straws...scientists, leaders, police enforcement, etc.
However, in the end, I don't think I deserve to live more than anyone else, be it that they are criminals or single mothers or highschool drop outs or drug addicts. If we analyzed the "potential" of each person and how likely they will contribute to society, of course like you said, it would have alot of overhead costs.
But I don't think the world is going to come to that, at least not in our lives. Plus governments would greatly limit birth rates before sending ppl to die due to resource constraints.
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People will probably think I am a heartless bastard, but I think among other things, welfare should be done away with.
If we want to promote positive evolution for humanity we shouldn't encourage the survivability of weak or inferior gene lines. People who can't make it on their own do not need to be forced to survive by the rest of us giving them money.
In some African nations parents will have dozens of kids, none of whom they can support and then there are TV commercials to help the starving kids in Africa . . .
Their stupid parents spawned a bunch of kids they couldn't take care of and now we should help them survive? Worst part is all these noob fucking people "humanitarians" think they are so righteous and noble when they help. They just have no foresight, and don't realize the implications of their actions.
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misty, youre a fucking fascist. fuck you. reducing the population? wtf? why? are you following Bush's (96 IQ iirc) politics? SECURE and GATHER all the remaining resources ASAP? Youre thinking about the future? the more the population the less will resources suffice? problem? rigth. but it could have 100 different solutions and killing people one of them, you fucking fascist. think about another solution, you little fuckie, go become scientist and find a maphack with unlimited resources, find resources on another planet, WE have the universe - an unlimited thing.
if you were just joking, then i aplogize for the "fucks", otherwise i double them
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I like the topics you bring up stimey, but it seems you always come off as angry, pissed, and very biased towards one point of view;) That might not be 100% true but thats just how you come off. Maybe more people would discuss the stuff if you presented your arguements in a different way.
I have NO CLUE how you could do it though, but im sure u could if you wanted! Also, the other reason people don't respond with as many thoughtful posts is because they already have a set impression of you being stubborn, or they just don't like argueing with you because of you pessimistic, fuck-you attitude:D <3
I would respond to the post but I probably wouldn't bring anything new to the discussion. Ideally we will find alternative reasources, or alternative ways of living before we have to make a choice like this;o Maybe space travel and colonization would play a role in it, or maybe im just a Science Fiction geek which is highly likely.
edit: i miss your funny posts, feel free to bring them back anytime
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Truthbringer, where is your heart of compassion?
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On February 14 2006 21:00 mitsy wrote: i was thinking about this today in my class, how the world has too many people, and the average quality is going down. at some point we are going to have to face it. people are going to have to die.
It will never ever happen as long as you keep having thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world.
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On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: It will never ever happen as long as you keep having thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world.
It's not (Hong Kong is though).
On February 14 2006 21:00 mitsy wrote: i was thinking about this today in my class, how the world has too many people, and the average quality is going down. at some point we are going to have to face it. people are going to have to die.
We gotta get all the countries in the world to like 2.1 children per women fertility rate, Europe -> more, Africa -> Less pls gogo
If you mean quality as in a measure of intelligence (a trait considered by many to be of high importance), then you are wrong because the average IQ of the world increases by around 2 or 3 each decade (Flynn effect: its not 100% true though).
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On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2006 21:00 mitsy wrote: i was thinking about this today in my class, how the world has too many people, and the average quality is going down. at some point we are going to have to face it. people are going to have to die. It will never ever happen as long as you keep having thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world.
and also has the smallest penis.
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On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: mitsy It will never ever happen as long as you have thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world.
er, IQ is something that you are born with and not suppose to be able to change;/ So while most asian countries tend to be harder working, it probably has nothing to do with their actual IQ.
I wonder if any race is genetically predisposed to having a high IQ though, anyone know ?T_T
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On February 14 2006 22:16 Teroru wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote:On February 14 2006 21:00 mitsy wrote: i was thinking about this today in my class, how the world has too many people, and the average quality is going down. at some point we are going to have to face it. people are going to have to die. It will never ever happen as long as you keep having thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world. and also has the smallest penis.
OMGOMG ROFL ROFL LMAO
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hong kong is a part of china
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Nothing is a part of anything, cut that nationalistic crap out. Any community may organize itself as a land-controlling "state" with no reference to any central natioanl government.
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On February 14 2006 22:17 OverTheUnder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: mitsy It will never ever happen as long as you have thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world. er, IQ is something that you are born with and not suppose to be able to change;/ So while most asian countries tend to be harder working, it probably has nothing to do with their actual IQ. I wonder if any race is genetically predisposed to having a high IQ though, anyone know ?T_T yeah the human race
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On February 14 2006 22:53 BatTheMan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2006 22:17 OverTheUnder wrote:On February 14 2006 22:11 zulu_nation8 wrote: mitsy It will never ever happen as long as you have thoughts like that. and fuck you the average chinese person's IQ is probably the highest in the world. er, IQ is something that you are born with and not suppose to be able to change;/ So while most asian countries tend to be harder working, it probably has nothing to do with their actual IQ. I wonder if any race is genetically predisposed to having a high IQ though, anyone know ?T_T yeah the human race
ROLF
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On February 14 2006 21:07 Hot_Bid wrote: [ ] Read the 10 Commandments [ ] Use the Search Function [ ] Old [X] Get a fucking blog [ ] Pointless Personal Attack [X] Closed Soon [ ] Fayth is cooler than you [X] Incoherent Mitsy Rant [ ] Even rpf isn't this self centered [ ] If Fakesteve created this thread, it'd be funnier [ ] Ekii? [ ] You're not Rekrul, nobody cares about your stories I'm honored that you've included me in yet another post. Either a.) you really actually hate me so much as to make the same lame joke repeatedly, b.) you are jealous, or c.) you're just a two-faced jerkoff.
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thedeadhaji
39471 Posts
plz stop responing to this thread.
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On February 14 2006 22:29 oneofthem wrote: Nothing is a part of anything, cut that nationalistic crap out. Any community may organize itself as a land-controlling "state" with no reference to any central natioanl government.
i don't know what you're saying but i feel like i should insult you
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Osaka26940 Posts
I think mitsy is right, there are too many people in this world.
God is doing his best really. Cancer. AIDS. Bird Flu. Atomic Bombs. He gives us all the tools necessary for demise, but we as humans just keep fucking it up.
Mitsy is wrong though, we do not need selective removal of population, we need mass random swaths taken out. Kind of like the world in The Stand, by Stephen King, 99% just arbitrarily wiped out. The others survive simply by possessing a certain recisive gene.
Then, in the future, we could reshape the world in light of God's natural selection. Hell, he already tried it once. That flood was a good idea but the deciding factor was how fast someone could build a boat. Maybe God screwed that one up a bit.
The other option is a Death Cult. The kind written about by Gore Vidal (a cookie for someone who knows the title). Make death cool again. Make death the ultimate trip, something to strive for rather than something to struggle against. That'll work.
At the end of that book the leader of the (now worldwide) death cult commits the ultimate form of worship, killing himself. I think you should lead the way mitsy. I mean seriously, what is going to change in this world if you live or die? In 1000 years is your extra consumption of resources really going to make that much difference? What production or addition to this earth is going to make your oxygen allotment valuable? Show us the way.
Or at least stop writing retarded rants on the internet. You say no one here could keep up with you, but I could intellectually dominate you with the smaller of my two testicles. Go get your ideas published, well known, or at least heard by someone other than the voices in your head. Having argued in #philosophy is not suitable for a resume.
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