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On September 17 2010 05:45 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 05:43 figq wrote: Ever seen chess players talking thrash to each other? Scientists that argue about a solution? Well, playing strategy games is closer to these activities. I feel sorry for the described culture. Bobby Fisher? And yes, scientists/professors arguing about solutions is pretty much the norm...
I have yet to see two scientist calling each other "Fucking retard" or "Fag" when they disagreed.
BM hurts e-sports, I thought we wanted it to spread, not people be afraid to jump in.
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On September 17 2010 03:12 awesomoecalypse wrote: Maybe its just because I'm an American
Bingo.
BM shouldn't be part of SC community, it's annoying and disrespectful.
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On September 17 2010 05:37 Raevin wrote:Show nested quote +Soccer has insane amounts of trash talk, whether between players, managers, and especially the fans. I mean, Americans might talk a lot of smack, but we don't go around starting fights like Soccer Hooligans do in other countries. Take a look at Real Madrid-Barcelona, or any derby in the UK, they all talk loads of smack.
And if you don't think great soccer players, from older ones like Maradona, to modern ones like Cristiano Ronaldo or Wayne Rooney, are cocky, I don't know what to say. Shows how little you know about our sport, the reason football players dont talk much trash IS BECUASE OF THE HOOLIGANS, there is an actual danger is a player taunts the crowd too much where it can escalate, its for their own safety. They are cocky and when they show it, like when Rooney lost the plot at WC and called the fans for booing them for ****, he was forced to apologise days later becuase the entire country of England wanted him nailed to the cross for saying that. You cant behave like that in football, it just dosent work. Which is why every interview is about "yea they are a good team but if we focus we can beat them", anyone who has watched football knows what i am talking about. Its just difficult for some americans to comprehend that some people do prefer good manners and sportsmanship. UFC fighters talk trash to build up a fight, sell tickets, then they usually hug afterwards to show respect after the competition.
Here are some quotes from Roy Keane for you,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1091984/Roys-rants-raves--best-Keane-quotes.html
On pundits...
'I was asked by ITV to do the Celtic versus Manchester United game but I've done it once for Sky and never again. I'd rather go to the dentist.
'There was a debate about Arsene Wenger on Sky and how crazy is that? People are actually getting interviewed saying he shouldn't be doing this.
'What that man's done for English football is amazing and will be remembered in 25, 50, 100 years. Will those on telly yesterday be remembered for what they've achieved? None whatsoever. I wouldn't trust them to walk my dog.
'There are ex-players and ex-referees being given air-time who I wouldn't listen to in a pub.'
On Rio Ferdinand and under-performing United team-mates...
'Just because you are paid £120,000-a-week and play well for 20 minutes against Tottenham, you think you are a superstar.
'The younger players have been let down by some of the experienced players. They are just not leading. There is a shortage of characters in this team.
'It seems to be in this club that you have to play badly to be rewarded. Maybe that's what I should do when I come back. Play badly.'
On United's home support...'Sometimes you wonder, do they understand the game of football?
We're 1-0 up, then there are one or two stray passes and they're getting on players' backs. It's just not on.
'At the end of the day they need to get behind the team. Away from home our fans are fantastic, I'd call them hardcore fans. But at home they have a few drinks and probably the prawn sandwiches, and they don't realise what's going on out on the pitch.
'I don't think some of the people who come to Old Trafford can spell football, never mind understand it.'
On WAGS...
'These so-called big stars are people we are supposed to be looking up to. Well, they are weak and soft.
'If they don't want to come because their wife wants to go shopping in London, it's a sad state of affairs.
'I can understand the attraction of people wanting to go to London - if you are talking about Arsenal, Chelsea or Tottenham. But there are players going to clubs in London simply because it is London.
'To me, that is wrong. It is not a football move, it is a lifestyle move and those are the type of people you don't want at your club.
'To me, that player is weak because his wife runs his life.'
On Jack Warner and releasing Dwight Yorke for international duty (Trinidad & Tobago football chief)....
'The man's a clown. He sent me a letter and he was quite happy to give it to the media. I spoke to him and told him what I thought about him and where I think he should go.
'He is writing these letters and it is always under the FIFA heading just to impress everybody.
'If he is vice President of FIFA then God help us. People worry about the game and agents and directors of football and managers losing their jobs - we should be worried about people like him.'
On Sunderland defender Clive Clarke, who suffered a heart attack while on loan at Leicester...
'On a night we got beaten in the cup by Luton, the staff came in and said, "Clive Clarke has had a heart attack at Leicester". 'I said, "Is he OK? I'm shocked they found one, you could never tell by the way he plays". 'Clarke later goes and does a piece in some newspaper telling the world that I have lost the dressing room. How does he know? He wasn't there! Clown.'
So....
he mocks teammates, media, managers, other players, and even a guy whose had a heart attack...
Sounds like 'BM' to me.
But I guess thats why Roy Keane has no fans and wasn't beloved by Manchester United fans...
Oh wait, I forgot, they fucking loved the guy for years.
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Bad Manners doesn't bother me so whatever. 
I talk lots of s*it, though normally I can't back it up.
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Exception to the rule, you took one of the most hated footballers of all time and decided that that is HOW EVERY FOOTBALL player behaves.
Congratulations, Keane breaking that guys leg made him the most hated player in football.
If NFL was so cool "and badass lol" then the entire world would watch it, they dont. They watch football, and they admire players like Messi, not people who hack legs off others (Keane)
Exception to the rule, look it up
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To me, you're just making Americans look bad, OP. In my opinion BM should never be an example to follow, unless you like confronting to others, something you really don't want to happen unless you live in a bubble, which should not last forever. It is ok to be sincere and not to show respect for those you do not respect, it is ok to be cocky, but making fun of others or provoke them while you're on top is just an unwise attitude, as nothing lasts forever, and because "being on the top" is something given by a social group, and being BM will help you to anything but to be admired, unless you all live in a collective bubble, which, as always, should not last forever.
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On September 17 2010 05:33 Raevin wrote:Show nested quote +So you are saying I wouldn't tell them they suck at the game IRL? I guess you don't know me then. No i dont know you,that is the point is that alot of people say **** online that they wouldnt dare say to someones face, that is cowardice. Hiding behind your monitor is not "cool" and cant be compared to Kobe Bryant talking **** to Shaq right on the court I doubt 90% of the people in this topic dare say anything to someones face. And usually its guys who never got a chance to be "tough" irl that go online and run their mouths. i approve of this message. I never really know when ppl are super seris or are just acting like that because they can hide themselfs behind a screen.
pisses me off when someone calls someone esle bm, and use it 4 times in one sentence. Grow some balls and go "hey your being a fucking dick go kill yourself" not " hes being bm because turtling on a island is bm, this tatic is bm in general...........bm" Just call him a douchbag.
frist is alot more funny if you dont use bm. rather then fuck you doucher prick. second i tgets your point across alot better then, o your so bm silly. third because i straight fucking disaprove. fourth if someone is being bm( fucking doucher) you want to make him feel bad because he desevres it. saying o doing that was bm. aint gonna make him feel bad. But saying i fucking dont like you because u=prick. that make'll him feel bad ( not enough for him to cry but take that smirk away).
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stop digging up friggin sportsmen insulting each other and trying to make a point with it.
it's not cool.
cheer for dimaga, spread the love!
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you think this is bm?..play Heroes of newerth
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at the start of every game
player 1: gl hf player 2: god im going to destroy you player 2: gl hf
edit:
would be so good
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If you think BM is great, go log on Xbox Live, come back here and tell us how much fun you really had arguining with 12 year old racists
You want SC2 to become THAT?
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On September 17 2010 05:46 McFoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 05:43 figq wrote: Ever seen ... Scientists that argue about a solution? Well I don't hang around scientists but if I did I would expect them to do this, yes.
Everyone argues. They certainly do not BM each other.
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On September 17 2010 05:47 nukkuj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 03:12 awesomoecalypse wrote: Maybe its just because I'm an American
Bingo. BM shouldn't be part of SC community, it's annoying and disrespectful.
Yay hypocrisy! Let's BM while telling others to stop BMing.
Or is American bashing not considered BM?
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I don't think we need BM to make SC2 big in the US, just players with a radiating personality. There are athletes out there who are fierce, nice, mean, douchebags, and etcetera. They are what give sports greater publicity and headlines because people and the media like covering them. Athletes like Dwight Howard, Shaquille O'Neal, Ray Lewis, Terrel Owens, and others. They might be the best but people like watching them play and how they play.
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If you think BM is great, go log on Xbox Live, come back here and tell us how much fun you really had arguining with 12 year old racists
You want SC2 to become THAT?
There's a wide gap between a 12 year old screaming "fag" over and over again
and trying to act like Flash where you never, ever say anything interesting or show a hint of cockiness and emotion.
You can be cocky, show emotions and talk smack without degenerating into a screaming child.
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from samsaung... i believe his game id is brack? brock? terran player. wasn't he famous for BM? i really liked that guy's BM. he made alot of issues in the sc:bw community. i remember he is the guy that got 'pylon heart' ownage.
BM is BM and i welcome it. makes games more fun to watch.
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On September 17 2010 04:37 Frozne wrote: I thought the same thing when I came to the starcraft world from the FPS world. I was like omg where is the trash talking?!
Honestly I've come to realize it's just because a lot of pussies play Starcraft that get their feelings easily hurt.
A lot of times in games if someone says "gl hf gg" I happily respond "go fuck yourself"
They are usually appalled and I assume it's then going to throw them off their game because they'll be thinking "omg why did this mean person tell me to go fuck myself omg qqqqqqq" or something like that.
Everyone wants to be a hero in starcraft, I'd rather be a villain.
/shrug
LOL
That's great. I never "gl hf gg" unless I'm playing my friends. In ranked matches I want my opponent miserable and losing horribly with all the worst breaks the world has to offer ^_^
I only gg if I mean it. If I played like swill, or lost to cheese, I don't gg ( unless the cheese was well done or amusing). When I play a seriously intense and tight game, and the other guy gives me just as much as I'm giving him, I GG, caps and all.
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On September 17 2010 05:46 Seam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2010 05:45 mierin wrote:On September 17 2010 05:43 figq wrote: Ever seen chess players talking thrash to each other? Scientists that argue about a solution? Well, playing strategy games is closer to these activities. I feel sorry for the described culture. Bobby Fisher? And yes, scientists/professors arguing about solutions is pretty much the norm... I have yet to see two scientist calling each other "Fucking retard" or "Fag" when they disagreed. BM hurts e-sports, I thought we wanted it to spread, not people be afraid to jump in.
You have to admit that it would be interesting to watch scientific debate like that though regardless of subject matter.
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On September 17 2010 05:53 Raevin wrote: If you think BM is great, go log on Xbox Live, come back here and tell us how much fun you really had arguining with 12 year old racists
You want SC2 to become THAT?
Some people in here seem to want that, yes
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On September 17 2010 05:52 sNes. wrote: you think this is bm?..play Heroes of newerth
Do you want to cultivate a community that will be similar to HoN, Halo, CoD, and all that or would you rather have one which stands apart by being civil?
I want StarCraft 2's community to be a city on a hill for gamers and game culture, rather then a vile cesspool of kids with their balls freshly dropped yelling uncalled for insults to one another because it makes them feel better.
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