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Looking forward to Hoejja v. Mind. Hope Hoejja shows better form on this map than he did vs Xellos... his late game was bad!
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Poll: KTF vs. Wemade Games have started
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Gogo Wemade :D
My prediction is that it's going to go to ACE. Hopefully it'll be a 3-2 Wemade win. I just don't see Pure and Shine taking games off of a super-hot Violet and Flash respectively:
Prediction: Violet > Pure Hoejja < Mind Flash > Shine[kaL] Luxury < RorO Flash < Mind
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Violet Mind FlaSh Luxury
3-1 KT
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3-0 or 3-1 with hoejja losing to mind.
your stream link got tlpd-owned.
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On June 21 2009 12:49 iLoveKT wrote:3-0 or 3-1 with hoejja losing to mind. your stream link got tlpd-owned. HAH
Thanks
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On June 21 2009 12:47 Apex wrote:
Prediction: Violet > Pure Hoejja < Mind Flash > Shine[kaL] Luxury < RorO Flash < Mind
This . . . but GO KT!
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Pure is doing well for himself lately - should be a pretty intense game.
Looking very much forward to HoeJJa v Mind, though :D
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It's amazing how much more depth Violet brings to the team.
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On June 21 2009 12:57 Avidkeystamper wrote: It's amazing how much more depth Violet brings to the team.
Only recently, not sure if hes gonna be consistent.
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KTTTTTTTTTF and Mind fighting ~ 3-1 plx ^_^;
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Downloading USEE @ 5.14 KB/S.... Joy....
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Would love to have a livestream.com link if anybody is streaming from there.
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Any stream going on?
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Allright! Let's have some good games!
Go Flash!
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not sure why you mention this, it's always working ok, except for yesterday for a bit? *_*
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just so everyone knows, Daum Pot Player (not Daum Sports) does work and streams at a decent rate.
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On June 21 2009 13:06 johanes wrote: go KTF go Flash!
GoGoGoGo Flash!!!!....
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neither stream works for me, any help?
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seriously Flash is on fire lately, 12:1 last 13 matches, and that lost is from Bo3
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can anyone on tl make a stream? i'd really appreciate it
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yep, dont forget to turn your volume down, or you are in for a surprise
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nice thank you very much
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hey fellas, game started. i can lr
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Game 1 @ Heartbreak Ridge
Pure @ 9
Violet @ 4
Go Pure!
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T______T the guy just came >.< ffs why they have to ruin the stream so often T_T yea i know some ppl say dont compain, but its major suckage.. i cant see how chinese prefer a commentator that hurts your earns and sounds never even remotely as cool as the korean commentators (i dont understand either language) >.<
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Game starting:
Violet @ 3 Red Pure @ 9 Blue
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violet gets a cool manner pylon in
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On June 21 2009 13:15 Kaolla wrote: T______T the guy just came >.< ffs why they have to ruin the stream so often T_T yea i know some ppl say dont compain, but its major suckage.. i cant see how chinese prefer a commentator that hurts your earns and sounds never even remotely as cool as the korean commentators (i dont understand either language) >.< You don't see why a chinese person prefers a chinese commentator? So narrow-minded.
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Damn Revolover your stream is fast. O.o
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no, it's not even working anymore -__-
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and a second manner pylon placed by violet...
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Ok, it's back. Looks like they're both doing 2 gate reaver and violet is looking to expo
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both players expoing, violet moving out
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On June 21 2009 13:15 Kaolla wrote: i cant see how chinese prefer a commentator that hurts your earns and sounds never even remotely as cool as the korean commentators (i dont understand either language) >.<
This might be the dumbest thing I've seen on this site in a long time....
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Yeah the daum pot player stream is quite ahead of solinren's, but it stops to buffer too often to be nice to watch D:
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wow, big battle going on. looks like pure is going to hold
not too many loses from either.. i think it was about even
both expos are up now
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On June 21 2009 13:20 huameng wrote: Yeah the daum pot player stream is quite ahead of solinren's, but it stops to buffer too often to be nice to watch D: It limits foreign bandwidth, it worked last night because it wasn't Daum that's streaming it but 'CristalTV' so we were able to watch it last night
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On June 21 2009 13:17 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 13:15 Kaolla wrote: T______T the guy just came >.< ffs why they have to ruin the stream so often T_T yea i know some ppl say dont compain, but its major suckage.. i cant see how chinese prefer a commentator that hurts your earns and sounds never even remotely as cool as the korean commentators (i dont understand either language) >.< You don't see why a chinese person prefers a chinese commentator? So narrow-minded.
I'd take korean commentators over english/dutch anytime... so yea why would u wanna listen to a boring commentator like that, i really dont get it ...
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violet wants to take his third?
Pure moving out with about 12 goons and 2 shuttles (speedy)
moving straight past the army, going for main
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WOW huge explosion. Violet just lost a ton of probes
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Ouch, that's got to hurt for Violet.
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dts somehow destroy pure's main nexus. didn't see where those came from
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Did Violet get one of the shuttles?
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Violet failed
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On June 21 2009 13:26 nomis321 wrote: Did Violet get one of the shuttles? Yes
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both of pure's shuttles are gone now i think. violet still has one (or two?)
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SOLIN (please) GET THAT STREAM VERIFIED YA HURD?
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solinren i like the snsd on your page ^^
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That was the best shuttle micro I have ever seen.
Ok... shit... Violet is really really good. Dual Reaver/DT drop kills tonnes of probse and takes down the main nex before the observer even notices.
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Well Violet get's Pure's nexus with DT's
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Pure returns the favor with his own DT/reaver drop (nexus not down yet btw).. it's going down though...
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GO VIOLET.
Too bad obs are out. xD
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On June 21 2009 13:27 LosingID8 wrote: solinren i like the snsd on your page ^^ Yes, I placed emphasis on "Power of 8"
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Pure is getting rolled by Violet's ginormous army
gonna try to find a more reliable stream during the break
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Storm drop by Violet...takes out a...decent number of probes? Could've been better though. =s
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dont click if you are watching livestream and dont wanna be spoiled
+ Show Spoiler +pure gg's, loses whole army to storms 1-0 KT
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Wow, war of attrition. Violet's main Nexus on fire but he keeps it, loses probes. Now Pure sends DT to his natural but it only gets a few probes.
Violet has his main Nexus again
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Great game, awesome storms at the end.
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if you are in both PL streams please choose one or the other as a courtesy for those trying to watch. Thanks.
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Stream already showed it.
You're ahead of me though. T-T
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Sounds like a sick game. Can't wait to watch.. finally got WFbrood working...
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On June 21 2009 13:33 Vasoline73 wrote: Sounds like a sick game. Can't wait to watch.. finally got WFbrood working... HOW!?
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I have been trying to restrain my excitment over Violet... but shit, I think he might be the real deal.
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quite a nice game, but felt a bit sloppy at times though... but maybe that was because there was so much action going on ... violet surely is rly good tho -_- ever since his game vs bisu ive been impressed by him, although i guess before that he was also playing good...
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On June 21 2009 13:30 Solinren wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 13:27 LosingID8 wrote: solinren i like the snsd on your page ^^ Yes, I placed emphasis on "Power of 8"
Im sure its just HY's face. Everyone dislikes her appearance? Not a HY fan myself.
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On June 21 2009 13:35 Lionofjudah613 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 13:33 Vasoline73 wrote: Sounds like a sick game. Can't wait to watch.. finally got WFbrood working... HOW!?
Well I'm sure this didn't make a huge deal, but I updated to IE8 from IE6... probably helps UUSEE or whatever function better. My stream is working flawlessly now, but you know.. these things can be random. I usually use the http://live.plu.cn/hanguo/USEE stream but right now it looks like the page is dead or something
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miiiiiiind cmon show us you are back in shape and kick hoejja... just hope hoejja is not in good shape today, but its hard to tell... hes so inconsistent >.<;
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Game started!
Mind @ 4 Hoejja @ 10
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Based on the posts, I'm guessing game 1 is recommended?
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On June 21 2009 13:40 Vasoline73 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 13:35 Lionofjudah613 wrote:On June 21 2009 13:33 Vasoline73 wrote: Sounds like a sick game. Can't wait to watch.. finally got WFbrood working... HOW!? Well I'm sure this didn't make a huge deal, but I updated to IE8 from IE6... probably helps UUSEE or whatever function better. My stream is working flawlessly now, but you know.. these things can be random. I usually use the http://live.plu.cn/hanguo/USEE stream but right now it looks like the page is dead or something thanks. I tried installing 3 versions of UUsee before it started to work. It worked when I had the program open but minimized and then hit the live stream to open in it the player window.
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On June 21 2009 13:45 Elyvilon wrote: Based on the posts, I'm guessing game 1 is recommended?
not the best game ever, but quite entertaining ~
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Hoejja going for 2-hatch mutas it looks like. Not sure if this is a good idea considering how huge this map is.
Not to mention Mind still has his SCV in Hoejja's base
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Mind going mech now, armory and 2 facts going up.
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Mutas popping very soon with turrets going up and goliaths being pumped by Mind.
Hoejja took his 3rd in the meantime, harass doing nothing.
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Seems like a really bad build from Mind... :/
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I think Hoejja thought Mind would have a Valk and therefore didn't fly in for harrass when there was only like 3 goliaths...
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Mind moves out and Hoejja attacks main with a ton of mutas, razing tons of buildings(mostly turrets, maybe a depot).
Both have huge armies, Mind's 3rd is now up, Hoejja has a 4th in the NW corner.
Hoejja making huge attack on Mind's 3rd, pulls out.
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Mind get a good irradiate(s) on the mutalisks
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omfggggg... Hoejja come on man this build is soooo bad. Be Jaedong please. Jaedong would have ended this game 20 times already.
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Thanks heaps for LR guys.
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On June 21 2009 13:57 iCCup.deL wrote: Thanks heaps for LR guys.
Np, I'd say more but it's a pretty boring game.
Hive tech finished for Hoejja with nydus going up.
Mind taking his 4th min only.
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Mind has like no tanks, a good tech switch would be good Except Hoejja just keeps flying mutas into goliaths
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Hoejja now has about a half dozen lurkers and defilers out now
Skirmishes resulting in some irradiates and dead defilers..
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Mind making a push to the NW area of Hoejja's Industrial Rev.
Lurker-ling doesn't do much, but PLAGUUU hits a fuckton of goliaths.
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Plague over all of the goliaths
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Hoejja with a big plague... will need 6 more to even have a chance imo...
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Nice plague by Hoejja hits about 12 goliaths...
mind is on 4 bases but his macro seems a little off? it probably wont matter if he can break Hoejja's 4th right now
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I can't see but I think Mind has 3/3 upgrades, at least 3/2, Hoejja's bases in the NW are in trouble, trying to harass Mind's expansions with a counter-attack.
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Hoejja has a LOT of zerglings chilling there
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hoejja has a loooooooot of lings
he's actualyl doing a decent job of delaying and harassing the terran ball but he doesnt seem to be actually going anywhere... he seems happy just to defend
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Mind has a huge amount of vultures supporting his tank line along the middle of the map.
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Hoejja is screwed... he has no chance to win this now it would take a miracle
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the problem is lurkerling isn't very good vs a mech army. I don't see why Hoejja is going for this army. Tanks are raping lings, even if they are under dark swarm
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Hoejja's 7 o clock seems to be going down, tanks, gols and vults pounding on it.
Nevermind, mutas come in to save the day.
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hoejja planningo to bring out ultras vs 3:3 mech army and a player who mines absolutely everything in the world ever
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Dude what the eff. This is like the gayest worst build I've ever seen from Mind and Hoejja didn't exploit any timings, just sat back, and got rolled. Wow. It's almost GG time unless 50 ultras pop or something.
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hoejja finally does some damage with a darkswarm/lurk drop
mind will probably miss his... 6th?
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Hoejja obviously didn't listen to day[9]'s How to deal with a Terran mech tutorial He could have raped mind if he used day[9]'s advice
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Hoejja holding on better than I thought. Mind might be out of resources
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On June 21 2009 14:08 OreoBoi wrote: Hoejja obviously didn't listen to day[9]'s How to deal with a Terran mech tutorial He could have raped mind if he used day[9]'s advice I doubt it.
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lol hoejja might win I think
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If he can keep the base and vessel count low...
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Shloober's ninja edit LOL
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nevermind. Hoejja is broke. I thought he had stuff saved up -_____-
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I don't think Mind played too terribly well, but Hoejja somehow managed to play worse.
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On June 21 2009 14:09 Solinren wrote: Shloober's ninja edit LOL
both my pages have STX v Estro at the top : ( I don't understand it
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That was a...mediocre game. =x
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That was such a terrible game from Hoejja.
Ugh, why are you so bad?
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Thought I love KT, I just traded for Mind in my FPL. :D Flash win twice plz.
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On June 21 2009 13:27 LosingID8 wrote: solinren i like the snsd on your page ^^ Quoted for truth even though the stream is full ^^
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damn, mech build is so strong nowadays...
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The next match should be good
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People I regret having on my fantasy team for 1000, Alex!
Admittedly that's like, a pretty tough ZvT map anyhow. It's like they're using Hoejja as their "odd playing progamer who wins upset matches!" ala his destination wins against the top two pvzers. I just don't think his zvt is up to snuff to upset a competent T on shades.
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On June 21 2009 14:12 BeaTeR wrote: damn, mech build is so strong nowadays...
I wouldn't say that that mech build is that strong, Hoejja just completely fucked up his strategy verses mech
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I mean seriously, Mind's build was sooooo bad. Someone like Jaedong, Effort, Yarnc, even freaking Lux would have killed it. He got vults out so late, didn't even build a valk, so mutas could have actually done a LITTLE damage. Hoejja didn't even try to push any advantage he might have had
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On June 21 2009 14:12 BeaTeR wrote: damn, mech build is so strong nowadays... That is like the worst game ever to base mech's strength off though.
I mean, Hoejja was using unit combinations that he would use vs bio. -_-
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Ok so looking through Hoejja's previous games, he lost to Xellos on this map. WTF KT, why would you play him?
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Seriously though it was like Hoejja was afraid to try and win. Like, flying in with all those mutas before Mind even had Irradiate?!?!?!?!? He flew in, killed 3 turrents, and ran away. Didn't even TRY to get the ebay, try to get depos, try to fly in and snipe vessels... his mutas already had +1 carapace! Mind didn't have THAT many golaiths! Mind didn't even have IRRADIATE OMG IM RAGING LOL. He could have just traded armies there (probably would have come out on top) and freaking 1a2a3a4a'ed reinforcements. UGH
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On June 21 2009 14:16 OreoBoi wrote: Ok so looking through Hoejja's previous games, he lost to Xellos on this map. WTF KT, why would you play him? id imagine that in practice hoejja pretty much only plays this map and he does pretty well but in televised matches anything can happen..
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On June 21 2009 14:17 Vasoline73 wrote: Seriously though it was like Hoejja was afraid to try and win. Like, flying in with all those mutas before Mind even had Irradiate?!?!?!?!? He flew in, killed 3 turrents, and ran away. Didn't even TRY to get the ebay, try to get depos, try to fly in and snipe vessels... his mutas already had +1 carapace! Mind didn't have THAT many golaiths! Mind didn't even have IRRADIATE OMG IM RAGING LOL. He could have just traded armies there (probably would have come out on top) and freaking 1a2a3a4a'ed reinforcements. UGH
the thing you forget is that he didnt have maphack, on top of that there were quite some gollies and he might be afraid of irri even tho mind didnt have it yet... and if those mutas are wasted its gg since he cant keep mind in his base anymore...
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Oh shit, flash has tape If flash destroys shine[kal], can we call it the "rape tape"?
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hahah the tape reminds me of that match on bluestorm that got re done
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It's been a while since I've watched some SC
Let's go Shine, wreck this kid. I don't care if he's on my fantasy team, just beat him!
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C'mon FLASH. DESTINATION IS YOUR MAP
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On June 21 2009 14:25 Realpenguin wrote:It's been a while since I've watched some SC Let's go Shine, wreck this kid. I don't care if he's on my fantasy team, just beat him! You're a-dreamin'!
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OSL TvZ tuneup for Flash? Or irrelevant Destination side match? Time will tell.
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rofl high-five to that guy
"oh shi we're on camera let's make out"
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On June 21 2009 14:26 OreoBoi wrote: LOL on camera make out Was it the same couple from last night?
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OH SHIT Mech on destination, I didn't see that one coming *sarcasm*
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Shit he kinda got denied.
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3 Hatch before Pool for Shine!
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omfg Flash drone kills lolllll
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I love 3 hatch before pool builds. Hoping for a good game.... too bad it's mech
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I hope Mind is paying attention to this game, he may learn how to actually play mech
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Flash is doing his "Mech" into Bio build again, getting EBay upgrade now.
And now he's laying down more Rax ... Shine appears to have no idea this is coming.
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Spire going up for Shine.
Mine kills 3 hydras. Ouch. xD
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Two more hatchs going up for Shine at outside 1 and 3 o'clock positions.
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And it's over, great play by Flash
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Flash just marches in and owns him. GG
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omg that build was insane
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Oh wow.... terran tech switching on the zerg? lol
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On June 21 2009 14:37 hideo wrote: Oh wow.... terran tech switching on the zerg? lol
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Oh great... now I have to deal with the fantasy build, standard mech, 2 port wraith into mech, 2 port wraith into bio, and now flash's "I'm gonna make mech and bio units and just crush you"
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3hat before pool?
Wtf, why would you do that here when the threat of 8rax is so high.
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Flash continues to press on with the advancement of TvZ Golibio builds.
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He had a drone scout in Flash's main before he did it.
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Gotta love long shirts that make girls look like they aren't wearing anything underneath
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On June 21 2009 14:35 OreoBoi wrote: SHINE GG's
lol I just strolled into this thread to see how things were going and this post really cracked me up. Typical Flash, no time for an actual live report because he just wins too quick.
(when he's doing a cheese/"smart" build and not an FE, anyway)
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Wasn't Canata the first one to start going gol + bio?
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Is Flash now tied with Bisu in PL wins?
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On June 21 2009 14:45 Ecael wrote: Wasn't Canata the first one to start going gol + bio?
Dunno, but I remember FlaSh doing it a fair while ago - also he seems to have been refining it.
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lux looks like he could fall asleep any moment now >.<
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i think that if you change luxury's hair, he could look like jangbi
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On June 21 2009 14:50 Kaolla wrote: lux looks like he could fall asleep any moment now >.<
He's just relaxing in the luxury of being luxury
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12 hatch in base vs 12 hatch in natural?
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Now that's a wall of lings.
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...a lot of lings from both players.
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lol epic ling surround wall =D
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nice half circle of lings by lux, guess thats what he does to stay alive +_+
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omg hahahahaha. I thought Lux was the 11 o clock zerg. GAY
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omg 16 lings break thru or so >_< this will be gg >_< lux < roro
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...or not . I keep calling these things wrong. Sorry guys.
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GG.
Hope KT doesn't make another stupid decision for ACE.
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On June 21 2009 14:48 iCCup.deL wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 14:45 Ecael wrote: Wasn't Canata the first one to start going gol + bio? Dunno, but I remember FlaSh doing it a fair while ago - also he seems to have been refining it. I think the first time I saw that kind of a build was Canata's OSL ro32, can't recall Flash doing it before that.
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Luxury in proleague
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knowing kt they will probably send out forgg.
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hoping for a mind vs flash ace match that'd be fun >_<;
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Ah. Bad game from Lux...I didn't think he had less lings. =s
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Flash plays on Outsider all day, it's an OSL map, he just played a TvT on it last night ... please send him KT, seriously.
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I remember one time KT(F) sent out Hery, this was last year when Flash was obviously unbeatable and the only reasonable choice for ace ...
+ Show Spoiler +
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Aha, if KT loses this again I'm gonna be so upset.
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want flash but knowing kt they'll never learn and send forgg
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I hate it when they reveal the ace players after the commercial break
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On June 21 2009 15:00 Murdoink wrote: I hate it when they reveal the ace players after the commercial break
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Lux had some really nice muta micro and killed off a ton of drones, I have to wonder if he had made drones himself instead of zerglings whether he could've come back. Shine was in total turtle mode anyway..
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KT's gonna send out violet.
I can just feel it.
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My guess is violet v. Mind
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I predict ForGG in ace match for KTF!
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lol, some true idiots are owning the chat in wonkman's stream
Livestream still needs kick- and ban-votes
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violet is seriously the only logical choice.
he's playing well. the map is outsider. he was the only one in the whole team that didn't have individual league for the past 2 weeks.
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ktf should play safe and send flash
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On June 21 2009 14:58 Kaolla wrote: hoping for a mind vs flash ace match that'd be fun >_<; Fun for my fantasy team!
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Flash is 4-1 in Outsider, it's a no brainer
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On June 21 2009 15:03 JWD wrote:lol, some true idiots are owning the chat in wonkman's stream Livestream still needs kick- and ban-votes
I still think they should allow promoting of ops like an mirc channel
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does anyone know if these retards on wonkman's chanel who are trolling and spamming have any TL IDs? Also where is wonkman, if he streams he could look at the chat once in a while and lock it
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The lights are dark this is intense...
and the curtains rise......
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Nearly predicted ace right, picked flash vs a zerg.
GL roro, you'll need it.
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Of course they sent flash, lol.
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at least its a TvZ. Maybe we get another glimpse of goliath bio.
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lol Flash scratches his ass then shakes hands with Roro
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KT made a good choice for ace? Whaaaaat?
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wonkman's stream is the only working one and it's far too laggy to watch enjoyably
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I just realized that ironically, this is the only OSL map Flash isn't playing on against JD/Effort/Yarnc.
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On June 21 2009 15:06 NeVeR wrote: Of course they sent flash, lol.
>.> <.<
I'm having nightmares of ForGG coming out for ace again...
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On June 21 2009 15:06 NeVeR wrote: Of course they sent flash, lol. ? You may see Flash = ace as a no-brainer, but KT's coaches don't.
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looooooooool roro. gonna get a spanking
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On June 21 2009 15:07 Vasoline73 wrote:>.> <.< I'm having nightmares of ForGG coming out for ace again...
I have nightmares of Hery coming out as ace
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On June 21 2009 15:08 tenbagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:07 Vasoline73 wrote:On June 21 2009 15:06 NeVeR wrote: Of course they sent flash, lol. >.> <.< I'm having nightmares of ForGG coming out for ace again... I have nightmares of Hery coming out as ace
cough lost against mumyung twice cough
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On June 21 2009 15:08 tenbagger wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:07 Vasoline73 wrote:On June 21 2009 15:06 NeVeR wrote: Of course they sent flash, lol. >.> <.< I'm having nightmares of ForGG coming out for ace again... I have nightmares of Hery coming out as ace I have nightmares of Hery coming out at all.
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Flash practicing Muta micro? lol
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On June 21 2009 15:10 Sadistx wrote: Unless Roro does something very unconventional, I don't see him pulling it off. 3 pool is his best bet.
But he doesn't have the Balls, KT 100%. I wish they'd just become a good team so they could win with three different players every now and then.
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Flash or maybe violet... but i hope that it will be flash
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lol!!!! Flash muta micro!
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Flash warming up his muta skillz
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man....progamers are stupidly good at those muta micro maps
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Wow Flash has some pretty good Muta micro
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Flash bored. Playing muta micro. Will keep you updated!
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sick muta micro from flash
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lol flash practising mutalisk micro
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wow awesome. FP views before their match.
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I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro..
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is flash playing KT's ZvZ matches from now on?
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Flash practicing his muta micro. 2 port wraith go.
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hes definetaly not going wraiths
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On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. ...other than warming up for any game of StarCraft...
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On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. Good point, I don't see him repeating his latest build
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On June 21 2009 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote: is flash playing KT's ZvZ matches from now on? He'd probably fare better than Luxury
ZING
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On June 21 2009 15:13 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. ...other than warming up for any game of StarCraft...
Why use a muta micro map?
Just sayin', it would make sense.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. a lot of progamers warm up with muta micro like Nal_ra. no he's not going scouts
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On June 21 2009 15:13 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:12 LunarDestiny wrote: is flash playing KT's ZvZ matches from now on? He'd probably fare better than Luxury ZING
I mean, it's hard to fare worse than losing every single time, right?
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United States12607 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:14 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:13 JWD wrote:On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. ...other than warming up for any game of StarCraft... Why use a muta micro map? Because muta micro maps are one of the least mind-numbing ways to immediately practice fast, precise actions.
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United States11390 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:15 Kentor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:12 Rostam wrote: I wonder if Flash is going to go wraiths? Only reason I could see for practicing muta micro.. a lot of progamers warm up with muta micro like Nal_ra. no he's not going scouts Nada is also pretty well-known for doing stuff like this before games.
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lol @ people wondering why flash is parcticing muta micro
protip: all starcraft players use muta micro map, its to practice precision clicking etc which is one the most useful things you can practice as a progamer. these guys arent D+ noobies, they have their build orders all sorted out, it's all about execution for them
edit:-_-
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extended period of nothingness
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These guys are totally D+ noobies! (yes I know it's a typo)
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United States12607 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:18 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote: extended period of nothingness
Yeah, what are we waiting for here? This seems like an inordinate amount of time between sets, even considering the upcoming game is the ace.
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is something wrong like flash cant join or something?
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On June 21 2009 15:19 JWD wrote:Yeah, what are we waiting for here? This seems like an inordinate amount of time between sets, even considering the upcoming game is the ace. The players look kind of bored too, Flash talked to some grown man, could be technical issues.
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Did the coach of KT accused his opponent cheating again?
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Something definitely wrong, flash doesn't even have his earphones in.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY
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On June 21 2009 15:19 TwoToneTerran wrote: These guys are totally D+ noobies! (yes I know it's a typo) yes i did just wake up GO FLASH
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Edit: Miss read, thought they sent out Luxury for ACE T_T
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On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
don't break page plz
edit: ninja edited. lol
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I come back to my computer and I thought it was a timeout and more Kespafail.
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On June 21 2009 15:21 Dgtl wrote: Do the coaches make a prearranged agreements to not send out flash against fox or do they feel the Luxury will win?
Pretty sure Flash is playing right now, actually.
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Maybe he uses muta micro to test out the hardware and it wasn't up to par..... that's my guess
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On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY
ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_-
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ACE Match finally starting FlaSh starting @ 12 position Roro starting @ the 9 o clock position
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On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_-
oh didn't know it was prohibited, sorry
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On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_- I think the issue is you could just not listen to the Chinese stream. If there is no alternative stream, your choices are still listen to a stream provided and commented by a Chinese person, or have no stream at all.
I would say listening to a Chinese commentator is better than watching porns for 2.5 hours.
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On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY Well, if you understand chinese it's actually not bad. They point out a few things watchers might miss.
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On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_-
i've really developed an extreme distaste for the chinese language after listening to this guy over the last few months (what with no more daum sports and all) lol
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY stop bitching. wow if UUSEE didn't work you'd be like WOW I MISS THIS CHINESE GUY
god...
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On June 21 2009 15:26 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_- I think the issue is you could just not listen to the Chinese stream. If there is no alternative stream, your choices are still listen to a stream provided and commented by a Chinese person, or have no stream at all. I would say listening to a Chinese commentator is better than watching porns for 2.5 hours.
Someone's got really bad porn. >:
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I hope the stream doesn't die like it did last night
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alright, alright, point taken. i agree that the chinese stream is better than nothing.
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oh dang.
flash gas stealing
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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flash meching.
not sure what roro is doing. he overpooled -> expoed i think
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lololol. zergling must have been like best friends with that vulture at one point.
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On June 21 2009 15:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:26 Ancestral wrote:On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_- I think the issue is you could just not listen to the Chinese stream. If there is no alternative stream, your choices are still listen to a stream provided and commented by a Chinese person, or have no stream at all. I would say listening to a Chinese commentator is better than watching porns for 2.5 hours. Someone's got really bad porn. >: Perhaps it's just so good that I cannot possibly go 2.5 hours while watching it? That would be a long time to you know ... just sit and watch.
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On June 21 2009 15:29 lazz wrote: oh god flash could lose He could win too
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flash being careless...? let's 3 zerglings into base without resistance
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flash upgrades mines first, mines right outside.
oh nice. flash runs two vultures to behind nat minerals, one gets killed by sunken, but roro forced to relocate his drones
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roro can't do shit with his mutas cause flash has turrets like everywhere
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Flash used this build against hoejia at gomtv
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YES, FLASH GOING BIO/MECH again
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flash using same build and nice defense on the muta Roro trying every route but cant get in
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roro is hanging in there... You can do it!
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Roro should have 4 bases vs mech but he only has 3. He's already lost.
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I've always wondered why in Ash world the lava close to the edges of pits is normal but the lava in the middle has a white "film" over it. Like the tiles that are actually just the lava are a different color. Super ugly.
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flash is switching to bio, getting 4 raxes.
no tank in site though. a couple of goliaths that he's using to kill off random overlords
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roro has lurkers. flash might be in trouble
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omfg so nerve wreaking. Please Flash. Don't failllllll
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Those lurkers got in but didn't do anything
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roro could have done so much more with that attack. ._.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
rofl RORO, okay just suicide some lurkers and mutas great
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What was that from roro..... horrible.
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Bunch of lurkers had potential but got picked off without doing any serious damage
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roro throwing away muta and ovies everywhere
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i don't think he killed anything with that attack except for a few rines and a tank
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Flash with a huge army wow
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Flash should push before Roro gets defilers
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i can't tell what roro's gameplan is at all.
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And Roro gg's after Flash's push
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AHAHAHHAHAHAHAA, Flank does absolutely NOTHING>
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Roro got completely train-wrecked, unbelieveable.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
WHAT THE FUCK? HE popped like 5 lurkers SIMULTANEOUSLY
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Wow that surround didn't do anything RoRo GG's
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ok gg sigh fuck mech so imba
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On June 21 2009 15:38 Kentor wrote: WHAT THE FUCK? HE popped like 5 lurkers SIMULTANEOUSLY
And that's why zergs need lings for support their lurkers.
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WOW how did all those lurkers die at the same time so fast
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
HOLY CRAP FlaSh just assraped Roro who attacked him from 2 directions.
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Bahaha what the hell was that?!
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whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
I have no idea what Roro could have done to stop that
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Wow, Roro got skullfucked in an instant. All of his lurkers died. GG
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United States20661 Posts
Flash is beast as hell.
6 points my ass.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Wow..... that surround looked alright at first.... jesus....
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flash with nice foresight. roro had 2 scourges prepared for the first vessel, but flash chooses another path to get his reinforcements + vessels to the main army.
roro tries a pinch , but fails miserably. gg
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that muta/lurk runby failed so epicly, cost roro the game
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Flash hit some sort of button and made all the lurkers melt, must've been a secret trigger.
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well that was an easy game for flash >.<
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*shakes fist* WE'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME, KTF!
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:39 huameng wrote: Flash hit some sort of button and made all the lurkers melt, must've been a secret trigger. lol looked like a trigger
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Zerg had no lings, therefore the lurkers were too frail to get into position. GG
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:24 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:21 NeVeR wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GOD I HATE THIS CHINESE GUY ufff you cant say that here soon you'll get a PM from some powertrippin admin, prolly GTR -_- but yea the guy definately sucks, but unfortunately this is not a forum where such things can be said as the TL staff cannot do magick (yes its true they cannot do magick -_-) and provide us with the kor stream -_-
hey you
shut the fuck up
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United States2822 Posts
seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die
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United States11390 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:39 Kaolla wrote: well that was an easy game for flash >.< Not like Roro made it challenging for him. :/
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that kinda felt like a PvT push break attempt, except with all the mines and siege tanks going off simultaneously.
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On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die
Dude, if HoeJJa can stop it, anyone can.
It is awesome though.
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On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die Dark Swarm?
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On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die
Nothing u cant. meaby fast DarkS
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lol. lolololol. wtf? what's with this stream?
the starcraft II battle report thing. ahaha. wtf.
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United States2822 Posts
On June 21 2009 15:41 Murdoink wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die Dark Swarm? The push seems to come out right as Zerg is getting Hive tech or about half-way through, so Swarm would come late considering the Mound has to come up and Consume needs to be researched. The Vessel timing was right as the Zerg got his first Defiler, too.
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On June 21 2009 15:41 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die Dude, if HoeJJa can stop it, anyone can. It is awesome though.
Hoejja probably knew it was coming (being on the same team as Flash) and was helped a lot by God's Garden crossmap positions. Once he got Defilers out, it turned into a standard late game struggle.
This build looks like it has potential but Flash has yet to beat any top Zerg with it. It seems like it would be hard for Zergs to all-in, with the mines and Goliaths helping a lot. However, if Zergs figure out the Defiler timing on this build, it could be tough. On the other hand, it's unclear whether the Terran will switch to M&M or play true mech until you actually scout the 4 Barracks going down (or see Marines). This build probably has a lot of flexibility, which helps a lot.
OSL will tell the full story....
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On June 21 2009 15:43 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:41 keV. wrote:On June 21 2009 15:40 scintilliaSD wrote: seriously what is a zerg supposed to do against that
hydras don't work because they die to the large numbers of mnm lurks die to siege tank fire mutas die to gol and mnm lings just die Dude, if HoeJJa can stop it, anyone can. It is awesome though. Hoejja probably knew it was coming (being on the same team as Flash) and was helped a lot by God's Garden crossmap positions. Once he got Defilers out, it turned into a standard late game struggle. This build looks like it has potential but Flash has yet to beat any top Zerg with it. It seems like it would be hard for Zergs to all-in, with the mines and Goliaths helping a lot. However, if Zergs figure out the Defiler timing on this build, it could be tough. OSL will tell the full story....
Yea, that was an interesting game. I really do like the build. Hoejja picked off some tanks with something IIRC and the natural map size bought enough time for DS. If anyone can make it work, flash can.
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need translation of that interview, looks like they are talking about the build
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i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis
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Does anyone know the # of wins for JD/Bisu/Flash now in the PL?
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On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis
Flash does not need surprise as a crutch (Unlike fantasy)
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On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis
It's kind of coincidental he's doing a new, very well performing build all of the sudden before his all TvZ OSL group. It could be intentional, as Flash has been working hard to curbstomp the "predictable" rep he's gotten since Fantasy wrecked his 14cc awhile ago. I could see him switching it up massively to throw off the Zs in his group.
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new flash build TvZ yay!
seriously though, Roro's lurkers looked like it had a lot of potential to at least stop Flash's advance in the midgame. losing 4 lurkers in Flash's base was a big (and stupid) mistake.
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On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build.
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On June 21 2009 15:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build.
nah that's too deep dude
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On June 21 2009 15:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis It's kind of coincidental he's doing a new, very well performing build all of the sudden before his all TvZ OSL group. It could be intentional, as Flash has been working hard to curbstomp the "predictable" rep he's gotten since Fantasy wrecked his 14cc awhile ago. I could see him switching it up massively to throw off the Zs in his group.
if it is.. that would be awesome... I'm really looking forward to the OSL group stages..
and i'm very relieved that flash advanced 2-0.. which means he doesn't need to practise for MSL unlike bisu and jaedong..
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On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis
There are a lot of possible reasons for showing the build now.
- I think history has shown that it takes more than just a few televised games for the opposing race to really figure out what's going on.
- He might want to give the build some "real world" field testing and get a better idea for how pros react (presumably other KT players are well aware of this build by now).
- He might not intend for this to be an "end all" build. It could help Flash get into JD/Effort/Yarnc's heads. It's yet another thing they have to worry about and figure out a counter for. He could even take the mind games a level further and fake this build and wreak major havoc with the ensuing overreaction.
The key with new builds (until they're proven to be viable long term) is to stay one step ahead. Bisu was one step ahead with his FE play for a LONG time, but I would wager that even average pro Zergs today could beat him if they were transported into Savior's position in the MSL finals. Unless it's blindingly obvious how to counter this build, showing it 3 times before OSL doesn't really hurt, and might help!
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On June 21 2009 15:47 nomis321 wrote: Does anyone know the # of wins for JD/Bisu/Flash now in the PL?
JD: 50 Flash: 50 Bisu: 49
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United States2822 Posts
Just analyzing the build (I don't claim to know ANYTHING about TvZ as I'm a D- Protoss player, but still).
Early Vultures put pressure on Zerg's natural or possibly third and forces Sunkens to be made, killing drones and losing mining time. Mines thwart early aggression and map movement - this also forces Overlords around the map to spot for mines. Range-upped Goliaths and Turrets fend off any Muta harass that is possible. After Muta harass is deflected, Barracks are added and Stim/Siege are researched. Tanks provide the bulk of the firepower of the army, with a sizeable MnM/Goliath wall protecting them. Overlords that were used to spot for mines are slaughtered by MnM/Goliath during the push. Hydras are ineffective because of the high amount of MnM and their weakness to tanks. Mutas are ineffective because of the high amount of MnM and ranged Goliaths. Zerglings are ineffective because of the amount of... stuff. The push comes out early enough that the Zerg is forced to make even more Sunkens at the natural. 4/6 Barracks pumping MnM also gives the army enough mobility to send the primary group of MnM/Gol/Tank to pressure the natural while small groups of maybe 12 MnM can go hunting for expansions if the Zerg tries to overexpand. Vessel timing is just about where the Zerg is about to get hive tech. Overcommitting to frontal defense against tank also leaves the possibility of Dropship play - one Dropship and 8 MnM should be very easy to accommodate with the build.
I could be totally off base, but this is what I saw conspire in the game. Obviously the push is stronger if there are close positions because it can switch from defense to offense really quickly. The push seems to be pretty reliant on positioning as well.
The four Lurkers RorO lost in the runby were also pretty bad. They could have been instrumental in an earlier flank attempt on the army, when it only had one or two tanks.
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I think this build is going to cause problems for the really aggressive zerg players out there. (see: JD)
When was the last time JD went hive tech anyway...
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On June 21 2009 15:51 Tyxiquale wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis It's kind of coincidental he's doing a new, very well performing build all of the sudden before his all TvZ OSL group. It could be intentional, as Flash has been working hard to curbstomp the "predictable" rep he's gotten since Fantasy wrecked his 14cc awhile ago. I could see him switching it up massively to throw off the Zs in his group. if it is.. that would be awesome... I'm really looking forward to the OSL group stages.. and i'm very relieved that flash advanced 2-0.. which means he doesn't need to practise for MSL unlike bisu and jaedong..
Yeah, that 2-0 was HUGE. JD has to play Flash on RoTK on July 1st, followed by Leta on Outsider the next day, and then if he wins that, Movie on Byzantium. If anyone can do it, the monster Jaedong can, but this looks really really tough and I'll be very surprised if JD manages to go 3-0 in these games.
Edit: Wow, Flash's ELO is now:
2221 vs T 2222 vs Z 2222 vs P
2nd place in all three categories ... 2's gone wild.
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He also just hit his TvZ elo peak.
Talk about good timing to be good against Zergs!
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Flash on a streak Violet still kicking ass
Luxury stil failing...
Ah KT...
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Not sure this is Flash's build. I saw Canata did this kind of build vs Hogil like 2 weeks ago.
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anyone remember flash vs ggplay where ggplay spent the whole game setting up for a massive lurker/ling + muta flank on flash, and when it finally went down flash lost.. basically nothing at all.
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United States12607 Posts
Flash...suddenly putting up characteristically monstrous results
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On June 21 2009 17:30 JWD wrote: Flash...suddenly putting up characteristically monstrous results Hell, It's About Time, man, It's About Time
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FlaSh was really impressive on Outsider. He really anticipated Mutalisk so well. The last fight was awesome. excellent micro! Lurker didn't live long time.
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On June 21 2009 15:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build.
I laughed so hard
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Bearded Elder29873 Posts
Yeah, go FlaSh, bring me more fantasy points ! Well done KT !
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I have a feeling Flash is about to reach a level in TvZ that no one has seen before. As he practices like a mad man TvZ only just to make sure he makes it out of his group.
I can only imagine how much it would hurt to go down in groups after the unfortunate run last year.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
nice
flash and violet doing well!! :D:D:D
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YES FLASH WINS TWO GAMES! Awesome that Violet and Mind also won ^^ Who cares about Failxury?
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Yeeeees! Flash winning twice and Mind once, great results...
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On June 21 2009 15:51 iloveHieu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build. nah that's too deep dude
Nah, maybe not... Anyone remember a game against Jaedong on the Sin Chupung-Ryeong? I remember when Flash said he prepared a counter to counter build of Jaedong when commentig on that game So who knows
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Flash appears to be regaining his old fearsome form. 14 wins in the last 15 games?
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
go Flash, 2 more easy wins! man he makes it look easy against a little bit weaker opponents ;D
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On June 21 2009 15:55 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:51 Tyxiquale wrote:On June 21 2009 15:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis It's kind of coincidental he's doing a new, very well performing build all of the sudden before his all TvZ OSL group. It could be intentional, as Flash has been working hard to curbstomp the "predictable" rep he's gotten since Fantasy wrecked his 14cc awhile ago. I could see him switching it up massively to throw off the Zs in his group. if it is.. that would be awesome... I'm really looking forward to the OSL group stages.. and i'm very relieved that flash advanced 2-0.. which means he doesn't need to practise for MSL unlike bisu and jaedong.. Yeah, that 2-0 was HUGE. JD has to play Flash on RoTK on July 1st, followed by Leta on Outsider the next day, and then if he wins that, Movie on Byzantium. If anyone can do it, the monster Jaedong can, but this looks really really tough and I'll be very surprised if JD manages to go 3-0 in these games. Edit: Wow, Flash's ELO is now: 2221 vs T 2222 vs Z 2222 vs P 2nd place in all three categories ... 2's gone wild.
idk maybe JD is about to experience what Flash went through in February. Hitting big names in multiple leagues with a lot on the line. I think if JD can pull through that should give argument to the fact that he's a more clutch player than flash is.
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On June 22 2009 00:12 Lebesgue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2009 15:51 iloveHieu wrote:On June 21 2009 15:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build. nah that's too deep dude Nah, maybe not... Anyone remember a game against Jaedong on the Sin Chupung-Ryeong? I remember when Flash said he prepared a counter to counter build of Jaedong when commentig on that game So who knows
Don't forget the OSL finals against Stork. He raped every protoss on Katrina (Stork in GOM finals included), then he said he would use it again and Stork responded that he had a counter. And then the shortest OSL finals in history followed...
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MrHoon
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On June 22 2009 02:21 adelarge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2009 00:12 Lebesgue wrote:On June 21 2009 15:51 iloveHieu wrote:On June 21 2009 15:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On June 21 2009 15:47 Tyxiquale wrote: i wonder why flash would reveal this new build in gom and proleague...
why wouldn't u do a fantasy and save a special TvZ build for the right moment.. eg.. osl semis Maybe Flash has a build that looks like the build he used tonight but will secretly be a counter to the counter to his build. nah that's too deep dude Nah, maybe not... Anyone remember a game against Jaedong on the Sin Chupung-Ryeong? I remember when Flash said he prepared a counter to counter build of Jaedong when commentig on that game So who knows Don't forget the OSL finals against Stork. He raped every protoss on Katrina (Stork in GOM finals included), then he said he would use it again and Stork responded that he had a counter. And then the shortest OSL finals in history followed... Ever since his performance vs Stork in GOM Finals, everyone in Korea were so pumped up to see Flash vs Stork epic PvT final with super crazy builds, carriers and etc. I remember when bunch of my friends and I made food and huddled around the TV to see the finals only to be greeted with 2 Timing pushes and a 2rax Proxy on Katrina
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go KT! stx sends a zerg to fail.
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On June 22 2009 03:20 anch wrote: go KT! stx sends a zerg to fail.
You mean Fox.
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Haha, mod changed "Failxury" to "Luxury." I guess they don't share my disappointment.
I'm really satisfied with Flash lately, I sense another title coming.
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flash played strong these 2 games with a intresting build, but I somehow really doubt if this will work against a inform jeadong or Effort in his osl groups =/
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On June 22 2009 05:09 4Servy wrote: flash played strong these 2 games with a intresting build, but I somehow really doubt if this will work against a inform jeadong or Effort in his osl groups =/
We'll see. I think JD and Effort are going down.
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