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banner by alffla Game 1: Iris < Byzantium 2 > Modesty[GsP]Game 2: RuBy < Byzantium 2 > RorOWinner: < Destination > Losers: < Destination > Finals: < Athena 2 > Predictions: + Show Spoiler +First game should go to Iris and RorO. Ultimately Iris and RorO takes spots for RO32 (RorO my fantasy MSL player, so biased!!!) Results: + Show Spoiler + Iris >> Modesty[GsP] RuBy >> RorO Iris << RuBy (RuBy advances to Starleague) Modesty[GsP] << RorO (Modesty[GsP] is eliminated) Iris >> RorO (Iris advances to Starleague, RorO is eliminated)
Iris & RuBy gets freetime from their coaches while both zergs gets more spanking How to watch: + Show Spoiler +
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Iris and RuBy will win
Modesty is mediocre and RorO is good..but RuBy has experiance on him
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i think yy isn't working again
edit: nvm it's up
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Come on Corinthos,save the day. I don't really give about who qualifies from this group,because I don't really like any of these players. Crucify me,for not liking Iris,but I don't. I'll still watch the games tho because it's Starcraft.
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On December 20 2008 17:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:+ Show Spoiler +First game should go to Iris and RorO. Ultimately Iris and RorO takes spots for RO32 (RorO my fantasy MSL player, so biased!!!)
mine 2. RorO ftw!
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is it just me or is yaoyuan showing skt vs khan from earlier today?
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Ruby has this group
Even if he loses to iris i dont see him losing to a zerg.
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daum player need port forwarding?
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On December 20 2008 18:39 29 fps wrote: is it just me or is yaoyuan showing skt vs khan from earlier today?
switch to the MBC stream
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Death Note cheerful!!! Iris ftw
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PPStream on yaoyuan is working very well, and there are no Chinese commentators this time.
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Ugh looks like another mech build -_-
Iris going 1 fact => CC
Modesty going Hydra den
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1 fac ( yes fac) expo from iris
3 speed vults out
hydras for modesty
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My stream lags and suddenly there are vults in Modestys base WTF. Surely the hydra den meant he scouted it so how did he manage to let them in
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modesty tries to wall with hydra/ morphing creep fails
2 vults get in dont do much
modesty counters with hydras iris pulls many scvs
mines finish
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modesty has OL ready and sniping mines
you can tell he has practiced vs this
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not looking great for iris
losing many scv at nat
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No more mech builds plz. Its getting way too predictable now and mech only is good when its not expected.
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lol i am posted this stream yesterday and was deleted
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calms down a bit
2 base vs 2 base, zerg has map control
zerg takes third
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Modesty has Iris pretty much contained for now so I would have thought he would go for a 3rd base. Iris seems to agree as he is scouting for it everywhere with vultures
Lurker tech up
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siege finishes
Iris seems to be heavily anticipating drops
turret + goli + tanks camped out in his main
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On December 20 2008 18:53 )aguar wrote:lol i am posted this stream yesterday and was deleted
because it was a VOD, not live
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4 lurkers out for modesty hanging out by Iris' nat
Iris going up to 4 factories
OH GOD IT IS A DROP
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ARGGGGG.. no yy working, or connection is shitty laggy!!!
OH COOL!!! Only WMP channel working is showing some SKT1 vs ONG replay
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Iris scouts the drop with vults before the hydras even get in the speed OL
drop cancelled lol
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IRIS HAS HIS OWN DROP
(just one dship of vults though :D)
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lol tanks standing ontop of stopped lurkers
Army moves ontop stop lurkers, they unstop, get scanned and just die -_-
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stop lurkers dont seem to work well against mech
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Oh my streams faster
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very effective drop gets about 10 drones and 2 hydra
Iris starting to creep forward
oh god
sieges right on top of stop lurker
OH GOD MODESTY COUNTER DROP
like 8 OLs
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On December 20 2008 18:59 mog87 wrote: iris won already bro/
looks like their streams are behind the PLU stream
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Ruby vs Roro should be nice both seem to be especially good vs the respective races,
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Modesty's drop was epic fail
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Iris was CLEARLY aware of the possibility of a drop and was looking to counter it the whole game. But he went for it anyway =/
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i have pps player but how do u use it.. input link but no picture shows..
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One might say that was quite the modest drop, hohoho.
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RUBYY!!
I'll try to live report this match.
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On December 20 2008 19:04 food wrote: i have pps player but how do u use it.. input link but no picture shows..
you should be able to go to the site, click the PPS box and the stream should start. otherwise just use the WMP stream
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ill try IE if thats the problem, none of those boxes clickable in firefox atm
edit:seems like it
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Ruby is my pick for next top terran
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gota show some love to Roro, whoever the fuck it is.
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INTRO IS PLAYING (YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY) -_- faces engaged
The match is starting... Ruby is orange at 10 Roro is blue at 7
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Ruby dont go mechanic. Your bionic is too art to not use
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rofl some hardcore death metal intro( actually turned into gay hardcore)
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Ruby is opening with 1 rax FE. Roro is opening with a 12 hatch FE.
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On December 20 2008 19:11 food wrote: rofl some hardcore death metal intro( actually turned into gay hardcore) I think it is static-X
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good scouting for roro
i gota stop reading this, you guys ahead by like 30 sec
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roro going gas first 2 hatch
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Roro's second hatch has finished
Gas starting for Ruby
Scouting SCV still hanging around in Roro's main
Lair coming up for Roro, 2 hatch
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Ruby taking his nat and adding acad
Roro straight into lair
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4 lings out to deny the scouting SCV
Early academy for Ruby
Ruby setting up a bunker at his nat
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Roro setting up his SPIRE
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Ruby has 4 SCVs pulled for some reason, scared of a runby
A lone marine for Ruby scouts 2 hatch muta
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Ruby setting up 2 rmore rax
3rd "sneak" hatch being set up at 5 o'clock for Roro
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that lone marine scouting was funny
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Ebay/comsats being set up for Ruby
Lings being annoying at Ruby's nat
Mutas have popped out, Ruby has a few turrets building
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Mutas going around, looking for an opening to harass
Hydralisk Den is up, 4th hatch started in Roro's main
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Muta harass is just being deflected by mnm + turrets at Ruby's main
Turret set up looks really nice, mutas just can't do damage
Factory started for Ruby
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What settings do I need to have on WMP in order to watch this at YY? Doesn't work for me at the moment and the tvants stream is showing some sort of proleague highlights.
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roro's harass isnt going so well
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Evo chamber started
Ruby moving out with an mmf force, mutas harassing the force
Lurkers morphing at sneak expo at 5 o'clock
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Starport up for Ruby, Sci facility started
Lurks preventing mmf from attacking Roros nat
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Queens nest done for Roro, Hive is upgrading
Few more hatches coming up for Roro
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ruby's rax seem to be idle everytime camera switches
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2nd starport being set up
Mutas taking some heavy damage from marines
Roro has about a control group of lurks
Defiler mound started
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First vessel is out for Ruby
Armies meet in middle of map, Roro backs off
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Scourge take out the first vessel!!!
Ruby taking position outside of Roro's nat
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Control group of lurks burrowed behind Ruby's contain
Siege tanks trying to break the nat
RORO GOING IN FOR THE FLANK LURKS DOING A LOT OF DAMAGE FIRST DEFILER IS DEAD, NO SWARM MMF IS STILL PUSHING IN
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MMF DOING HEAVY DAMAGE IN ROROS MAIN
A FIREBATHERO TAKING ALL DAMAGE FROM ABOUT 6 LURKS
Ruby has taken a huge lead, almost all of roro's main drones are dead
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two defilers died in vain.... not looking good for zerg
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On December 20 2008 19:24 Realpenguin wrote: MMF DOING HEAVY DAMAGE IN ROROS MAIN
A FIREBATHERO TAKING ALL DAMAGE FROM ABOUT 6 LURKS
Ruby has taken a huge lead, almost all of roro's main drones are dead hehe a firebathero? or a firebat?
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Ultra cavern finished for Roro, hidden at 5
Roro using swarm to push back the SK terran
Ruby's forces moving towards 5, taking out other bases in between
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One swarm would have changed everything! He didn't have enough energy yet, and I guess consume wasn't researched. Great timing by Ruby!
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On December 20 2008 19:25 snapcrackle wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 19:24 Realpenguin wrote: MMF DOING HEAVY DAMAGE IN ROROS MAIN
A FIREBATHERO TAKING ALL DAMAGE FROM ABOUT 6 LURKS
Ruby has taken a huge lead, almost all of roro's main drones are dead hehe a firebathero? or a firebat? a firebathero hehe
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wow 4 bases for terran and still only 6 rax.
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Swarm + lurks doing a decent job of defending, but Ruby has map control with his army.
On December 20 2008 19:25 snapcrackle wrote: hehe a firebathero? or a firebat? It was dmatrixed, hence firebathero
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ruby's macro is really really good thats why
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Scourge take out 2 vessels, but remaining vessels are irradiating some defilers
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On December 20 2008 19:26 Realpenguin wrote:Swarm + lurks doing a decent job of defending, but Ruby has map control with his army. Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 19:25 snapcrackle wrote: hehe a firebathero? or a firebat? It was dmatrixed, hence firebathero there was a blog called the real firebathero midas vs chojja. Chojja did a sickass flank but midas dmatrixed a fb and diverted the spines and won and hence firebathero hehe
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Hmmm a lot of d-matrix being wasted
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Vessels killing a bunch of Defilers
Defilers + lurks still holding off various attacks at all of Roro's bases
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Ruby is attacking 5
Vessels are plagued
2 dropships dropped at 5
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MMF destroying 5 o'clock,
Lurks attacking 12, killed comsat and about 2 SCVs -_-
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3 ultras out for Roro
Ruby still trying to take out natural at 5 o'clock
ultra/ling/lurk force damaging Ruby's third at 11 o'clock
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marines and fbs take out Roro's nat, swarm + lings clean it up
Roro expanding to 3 o'clock
Ruby pushing into main
Roro GGs
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How many defilers did Roro lose unnecessarily...
EDIT: Yah was Roro my bad
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When i think of tvz i think of ruby
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On December 20 2008 19:33 Incognitodies wrote: How many defilers did Roro lose unnecessarily... my scouter says that it's OVER 9000
Ruby's TvZ is really good, and it's great that he didnt go mech like every other Terran.
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reason i love winter is when i go to bed after MSL its still dark outside
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When ruby got flanked by roro's lurks and he retreated into roro's nat. That was soo nice.
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ruby was outplayed till roro snapped and attacked his contain with all his shit forgetting hotkeys and defilers. he had sooo much advantage at that point was hilarious to see him shit it away
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Great Game RuBy
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On December 20 2008 19:38 food wrote: ruby was outplayed till roro snapped and attacked his contain with all his shit forgetting hotkeys and defilers. he had sooo much advantage at that point was hilarious to see him shit it away I dont think ruby's was behind when he attacked with his han bang. He did lose his first vessel though. Roro's muta harass didnt do any damage but it did buy time for his 3rd gas and lurks. I think when ruby attacked with his han bang they were both even. Roro's flank was good and he would have been ahead because he would won the center fight but ruby's decision to retreat instead of fight and go to roro's nat and main got him a lot of drone kills which put him ahead. I couldnt see the rest of the game after that parents came;;
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INTRO PLAYED
-_- pwnage faces Iris is Orange at 5 Ruby is Teal at 11
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those breaks are killing me
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Mirror builds so far but Iris is walling in Ruby has his rax in a funny spot
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Still mirror builds, factor ystarted at same time
...oh wait never mind
Ruby going 2 fact. Iris going 1 fact CC.
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Iris hiding a scouting SCV behind Ruby's nat minerals
2 fact with 1 machine shop for Ruby
3 rines out for Ruby
2nd fact being set up for Iris
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Early armory for Ruby
Ruby pushing out with 1 vult, 1 tank, 3 rines
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Iris only has 1 rine, 1 vult, and 1 tank to defend
RUBY PUSHING INTO THE NAT
SETTING UP MINES ON THE BRIDGE
Ruby does little damage to SCVs, Iris sets up mines on his side of the bridge
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CC started for Ruby
3rd fact set up for Iris
Stand off at Iris's natural bridges
RUBY HAS KILLED PANDABEARGUY
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Natural CC finished for Ruby
Both players just macroing, playing passively
Iris sent a group of vults to harass, quickly denied
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Iris setting up a lot of mines in the middle of the map
Ruby pushes vults back with his own tank/vult
Comsat up for both players
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They have very similar unit counts, meeting at middle of the map
Gollies out for Ruby
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Iris pushing forward, taking out Ruby's sieged tanks with ease
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Iris's army attacking at an odd angle, standoff is occuring
Iris's third has started
Ruby started his first starport
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Cant watch the games but i predicted from the start Iris > modesty Ruby > roro Iris > ruby roro > modesty Ruby > roro
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Iris has vults attacking SCVs at the back of Ruby's nat
Iris settign up more tanks around 3 o'clock
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Iris now taking the high ground at 1 o'clock, but Ruby cleans it up
Ruby has 1 wraith out
Iris planting mines at the middle of the map
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Iris going around the back of Ruby's base, tanks run into several mines
Iris pushing at the middle of the map
Ruby moves in with more reinforcements, cleans up Iris's push
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4th CC building for Iris
Sci facility started for Ruby
Iris moving around 9 o'clock defusing mines, sets up tanks
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Both just macroing, forces spread throughout the map for each player.
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Ruby sieging up at the 3 o'clock expo
Iris has a force moving though the middle of the map, taking out a chunk of Ruby's forces
Iris setting up another CC at 8
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Rubys vults coming in and taking out SCVs at 5 o'clock
Tanks setup around 9 o'clock for Iris, Ruby sieging around them
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base count seems fifty fifty
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Iris is on 5 base, and Ruby also on 5 base
Ruby setting up a CC at 3 o'clock
Ruby has 2 dropships out
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looks to become a battlecruiser tvt
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Wraith snipe a lifted CC
Iris takes out a stray dropship with his tank/gol at 9 o'clock
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Ruby dropping tanks around 4 o'clock expo
Iris has 3 drop ships picking up some tank/gol
Ruby's tanks at 4 preventing Iris from expoing
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ok now base count is in ruby's favor. 5 bases for iris 6 for ruby. could change right now!... iris trying to claim back his lost base at 5 o'clock
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5 dropships out for Ruby, 4 for Iris
Iris dropping at 10 o'clock expo, dealing a lot of damage
Ruby also dropping at the 7/8 o'clock expo, taking out a lot of SCVs
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Iris cleans up Ruby's drop at 7/8, Ruby taking out remaining tanks at his 10 o'clock
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Ruby is slightly ahead in bases, just a 1 base difference like snapcrackle said
Both players scanning the other's army a lot
5 dropships for each player
Iris using his dropships to reclaim the 4 o'clock expo
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C'mon Iris. You can pull through this. Don't lose focus!!
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Iris doing a huge drop at 3 o'clock, but Ruby drops his own tank/gol on top of it, deflecting the drop.
Iris still has tanks sieged at the bottom of 3 o'clock ramp
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3 o'clock gas is gone though so no mining from that gas. even bases 6 to 6 right now again. Could become a potential draw. We haven't seen that in while !!!!
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Ruby's 3 o'clock is effectively denied, tank/gol, set up at the bottom of the ramp
Ruby's dropships picking up some units
Ruby has PHYSICS LAB set up, it's BC time
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surprising though no BC's from either side yet? correct me if i'm wrong cuz i'm two things at once
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Don't say that about a tie snapcrackle. One long drawn out TvT is enough. Two is torture. Even with your favorite player.
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Iris has tanks sieged near the middle, in a line similar to Ruby's
Ruby doing a MASSIVE drop at 4 o'clock denying it yet again
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Both players retaining their dropship count
Iris doing a huge drop at 10 o'clock, using 2 ebays to save his dropships
Ruby counter-drops it and cleans it up easily
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3 BCs out for Ruby
Iris still sticking with tank/gol/dship play
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Iris running SCVs into Ruby's tankline. Freeing up supply?
Both players being very passive right now. (even Ruby suicided a few SCVs)
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Blah Iris didn't wait long enough for those e-bays to get closer
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Iris on 5 base, Ruby on 6. Some bases are mined out, so it's more like 2 base vs 3 base
Ruby is hiding his starports and BCs, gathering a large amount
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Ugh.. please no stalemate. ><
Well with BCs, that's really not a worry I guess unless Iris wtfpwns them.
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Ruby moving out with the BCs, I'd say about 7-8
BC's taking out Iris's tankline
Iris dropping 10 o'clock using SCVs and ebays as decoys. His force gets demolished.
BCs wreaking havoc at 9 o'clock expo
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Ruby using tanks to clean up 9 o'clock
Ruby's BCs moving towards the middle of the map, and are driven away by a few gollies.
Ruby yamato'd Iris's Sci facility
Iris setting up a lot of turrets
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Iris seems to have mostly Gols now, but BCs are doing too much damage
Players don't seem to be mining a lot, think 1 base vs 2 base
Ruby still getting BCs
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HOLY COW
IRIS'S GOLS TAKE OUT A HUGE CHUNK OF RUBY'S BCS
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On December 20 2008 20:15 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Ugh.. please no stalemate. ><
Well with BCs, that's really not a worry I guess unless Iris wtfpwns them. you jinxed it
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Iris moving out with all he's got to retake 9 o'clock
Ruby going over to 9 o'clock, denying Iris's attempts
Iris still has a small tank/gol set up at 9, but is being picked off by yamato
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Hahhaha Battlecruiser raped
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RUBY PUSHING INTO 8 O'CLOCK WITH TANK/BC
IRIS GOES WITH EVERYTHING HE HAS TO DEFEND IT
IRIS GETS WIPED OUT
IRIS GGS
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woot my liquibets were right!!! now for roro to take the next 2 games i'll be on a streak
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Wow ruby's in haha
Woot ruby for gold this msl
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Ruby played a really nice game. Iris... I have a lot of gripes with his game from mid-late game onwards. Some of his attacks are just mind boggling... but that's how he plays ~_~
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Good for Ruby. I like the guy but he never does much (aside from raping TvZ).
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Modesty and Roro in the booths... no intro played
Modesty is red at 11 Roro is green 5
ZvZ action!
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Modesty opening with 12 pool/11 gas Roro does the same thing
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Both players also setting up a hatch at their nat at almost the same time.
Lair at the same time too...
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Lings out for both players
Natural finished for both players
Spire going up for both players
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Roro moving his lings outside of Modesty's nat
Roro runs 3 lings into Modesty's base
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Lings just running around ...
Modesty moves out with all his lings, takes out a few of Roro's, but Roro's mutas pop just in time.
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Mutas out for both players, and they aren't really doing anything with them.
Just flying around wheee
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Both players also making scourge, Roro making 2 more than Modesty
Roro finally being a bit more aggressive with his mutas
RORO TAKING OUT A LOT OF MODESTY'S MUTAS
MODESTY'S MUTA COUNT IS ZERO
Modesty GGs
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the scourges kept coming and coming lol wow.
gg
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If Iris loses I will never liquidbet him again
From Sexy Terran to mediocre dude, ugh
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INTRO PLAYING
IRIS VS RORO HARDCORE MUSIC PLAYING -_- FACES ENGAGED
Iris is orange at 6 Roro is white at 10
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Roro scouting the correct direction with his first Overlord.
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Roro opening with a 12 hatch
Iris knows where his opponent is as well
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Iris going for a 1 rax FE, also setting up his 2nd rax soon after
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3rd hatch for Roro started in his main
Roro making quite a few lings, sending some towards Iris and denies scout Iris is prepared, he has a bunker at his nat
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CC is finished for Iris
Lair started for Roro
Roro just moving his lings aroun
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Early academy up for Iris
Roro setting up 1 sunken at his nat
Roro opts for Spire tech
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Engineering Bay started for Iris
Iris pushing towards Roro's nat with mmf
Roro setting up 2 more sunks for a total of 3
Lings waiting for the right moment to attack the MMF
Iris sets up 2 more rax
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2 Lings in Iris nat taking out only 1 SCV
MMF fall back a bit
Roro runs by 1 ling into Iris's main, does no damage
Mutas out for Roro
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Roro expanding to the 2 o'clock main (sneaky)
Mutas inside Iris's base, doing some harass, taking out only 1 marine and 1 SCV so far
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hydra den finished for roro, evo chamber just started
Roro is forced to cancel his sneak expo
Mutas going back into Iris's main, taking out a few more rines and SCVs
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Iris scans hydras morphing into lurks at Roro's nat
small MMF force standing outside the nat
Mutas attacking the small MMF force
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Thx for LR Realpenguin, really appreciated.
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Lurks finished for Roro
Iris has 2 tanks out, and his sci facility is finished
Lurks outside of Iris's base
First vessel brought to low health by mutas
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Roro has hive started
Roro expanding to 12 o'clock
Iris moving out with mnm/vessel/tank, forced to stop because of a control group of lurks in the middle of the map
MUTAS SNIPE A VESSEL
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Iris's army pushing back the lurks
Roro has an unusual amount of lings
Roro fails a lurk/ling/muta flank, loses all his units
Iris dropped an mnm force in Roro;s main, takes out a lot of SCVs
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iris is in!!!!!!
but no zergs advance lol
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good, perfect LB for meh ^^
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Ty very much for the LR Realpenguin!
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damn more terrans in the msl ><
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MNM taking out the 12 o'clock expo.
Iris has a huge lead.
MNM/tank/vessel outside of Roro's nat
Roro GGs
IRIS ADVANCES
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Ruby has insane TvZ stats, w00t~
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Russian Federation386 Posts
Thx for LR's, Realpenguin! Really appreciated ^^
Go Iris!! One of my favorite terrans ^^
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CA10824 Posts
just nitpicking at the OP, but:
OnGameNet Starleague = Starleague or OSL (although in korea it is always Starleague and never referred to as OSL) MBCgame Starleague = MSL only
even though they are both considered starleagues, OGN came first and therefore have the right to have their league called starleague, whereas MBCgame came later and have to call theirs the MSL
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On December 21 2008 01:19 LosingID8 wrote: just nitpicking at the OP, but:
OnGameNet Starleague = Starleague or OSL (although in korea it is always Starleague and never referred to as OSL) MBCgame Starleague = MSL only
even though they are both considered starleagues, OGN came first and therefore have the right to have their league called starleague, whereas MBCgame came later and have to call theirs the MSL um...not really. This is like arguing that certain words in the english language aren't "real" words. If people use the word, its real. If people refer to the MSL as a Starleauge, its legitimate. And everyone on TL does that...so...
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CA10824 Posts
On December 21 2008 01:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2008 01:19 LosingID8 wrote: just nitpicking at the OP, but:
OnGameNet Starleague = Starleague or OSL (although in korea it is always Starleague and never referred to as OSL) MBCgame Starleague = MSL only
even though they are both considered starleagues, OGN came first and therefore have the right to have their league called starleague, whereas MBCgame came later and have to call theirs the MSL um...not really. This is like arguing that certain words in the english language aren't "real" words. If people use the word, its real. If people refer to the MSL as a Starleauge, its legitimate. And everyone on TL does that...so... what are you even talking about.
i don't know how old or new you are to the scene, but a year or two ago it was a big deal in korea because the OGN commentators went on a program called 스타뒷담화 basically berating the MSL guys for calling the OGN Starleague as "OSL" and not "Starleague." also they said that MSL should only be called MSL and not starleague.
of course MSL is A starleague, but it is not THE Starleague.
please don't argue with me on this one, this shouldn't even be up for debate.
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On December 21 2008 02:01 LosingID8 wrote: please don't argue with me on this one, this shouldn't even be up for debate. You are absolutely right but the point is that nobody except old timers and of course OGN people cares about this issue anymore. For most people here, OSL and MSL are on the same level and they just don't care about what looks like a boring trademark right issue between MBC (trying to take over the glorified "starleague" name) and OGN (fighting to keep their #1spot while MBC was busy crowning Oov and Savior 3 times each).
But anyway you said yourself it was nitpicking so I'm not telling you anything new here.
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Woohoo Berserker!!!
Really, it would've been upsetting if he didn't advance from this group.
EDIT: Also, thanks RealPenguin for the LR. Stream was too shitty for me to watch.
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On December 21 2008 02:01 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2008 01:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 21 2008 01:19 LosingID8 wrote: just nitpicking at the OP, but:
OnGameNet Starleague = Starleague or OSL (although in korea it is always Starleague and never referred to as OSL) MBCgame Starleague = MSL only
even though they are both considered starleagues, OGN came first and therefore have the right to have their league called starleague, whereas MBCgame came later and have to call theirs the MSL um...not really. This is like arguing that certain words in the english language aren't "real" words. If people use the word, its real. If people refer to the MSL as a Starleauge, its legitimate. And everyone on TL does that...so... what are you even talking about. i don't know how old or new you are to the scene, but a year or two ago it was a big deal in korea because the OGN commentators went on a program called 스타뒷담화 basically berating the MSL guys for calling the OGN Starleague as "OSL" and not "Starleague." also they said that MSL should only be called MSL and not starleague. of course MSL is A starleague, but it is not THE Starleague. please don't argue with me on this one, this shouldn't even be up for debate.
'starleague' is basically an OSL marketing stunt
I refuse to agree with it
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I don't see why it is necessary to nitpick the usage of MSL/OSL etc.
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CA10824 Posts
On December 21 2008 07:43 GTR-2-Go wrote:OK from these wikipedia articles; Starleague (OGN) and Starleague (MBCgame) it seems that OGN's official legal name is the Starleague while MBC is MSL. yup
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Damn p4nda... your prediction on the first page was 100% correct.
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