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Results: + Show Spoiler +Light < Kal on Katrina Light < Kal on Zodiac Light > Kal on Blue Storm Light < Kal on Loki II
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Results and Standings Thread
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The map pool screams Kal, but I still think Light will take it.
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Light's expected by many to lose this, so he wins. He was expected to get past the PSL, he loses. Beats Bisu at WCG. List goes on and on.
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Light needs a miracle on this set of maps. It doesn't get better for PvT than this.
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On February 05 2008 16:23 NovaTheFeared wrote: Light needs a miracle on this set of maps. It doesn't get better for PvT than this.
Unless we go waaay back to maps like Hall of Valhalla.
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kal is this season's mind. but uglier
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I think Light will 3-0 Kal... because Kal is lame.
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On February 05 2008 17:10 SuperJongMan wrote: I think Light will 0-3 Kal... because Light is a few levels under in current skill & hotness.
Fixed.
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I can't believe we're already in the MSL quarterfinals. Seems like a few days ago that the S4 Opening Video just released
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On February 05 2008 16:49 ray1234 wrote: kal is this season's mind. but uglier incorrect mind is the ugliest
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gogo kal, but still hope for long and spectacular match... 2:3 would be just fine for aiur
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On February 05 2008 16:49 ray1234 wrote: kal is this season's mind. but uglier
haha, nice one...
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Wow so Kal this morning played OSC and is now, like 4-5 h later up to play a quarterfinal in MSL?
Busy schedule, I wonder how this affects him (espically since he lost the finals quali-round 1-2 to some random zerg..)
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Amped on these games. Should be an awesome match up. They have simular styles based on micro/game management.
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Light 3-1 Blue Storm and Zodiac Light should take. Kal will most likely take both Katrina games. It will come down to Loki.
Alot of retarded comments on this page
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i think kal will take this 3-1
light is pretty good, but i think kal is on a hotter streak lately.
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Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy!
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Kal looks like a turtle.
Having said that, 3:2 for Aiur, go go!
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Light < KaL on Katrina Light > KaL on Zodiac Light > KaL on Blue Storm Light > KaL on Loki ll
If KaL manages to win on Zodiac, Blue Storm or Loki ll he will probably win the series with Katrina as deciding map.
Hoping for Light!
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On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy!
what? the OSC final was between much and sea
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Live reports will be thnx
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Here we go! Rdy to fight!
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On February 05 2008 18:39 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy! what? the OSC final was between much and sea He meant offline today
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Light thumbed down Blue Storm and Kal Loki II.
???
Hope Light 2 Facs him hard.
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On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy!
Kal and Light lost in their final sets in the PSL today. They sacrificed a shot at the OSL to focus on their MSL games: for which one will the sacrifice be worth it?
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On February 05 2008 18:39 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy! what? the OSC final was between much and sea
besides how can both players lose in any finals?
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Well either way hes completely wrong. They weren't finals. They were offline prelims.
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kal is ok! look at pusan- he has the oldschool ugliness
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cross positions >_<
doesn't help light much
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Kal 12 Light 6 on Katrina
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Light is at 6, Kal At 12.
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I expect light to have a special non standard build prepared.
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Kal starts with a pylon, Light with a supply depot.
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FE from kal
11 gas/rax from light
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Kals first pylon to the direct right of his nexus, improves mining. Kal Nexus first. Then a gateway, Light going rax/gas.
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ok, if others are going to report, i'm going to watch the intersting stuff on OGN.
ill check during commercials to update op though.
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If Light 1 fact ccs, he will definitely lose this...lets hope he plays aggresive vs the fast expand.
Either way, Light is in a tough position.
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wow i go to the bathroom for one sec and kal FE's...
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The stats for katrina are 18-7 now; that's worse than 7:3.
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On February 05 2008 18:43 pkparadox wrote: wow i go to the bathroom for one sec and kal FE's... FE is totally standard on Katrina I dare to say.
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On February 05 2008 18:40 One Page Memory wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:39 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy! what? the OSC final was between much and sea He meant offline today
that's PSL
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On February 05 2008 18:43 pkparadox wrote: wow i go to the bathroom for one sec and kal FE's...
what did you expect?
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They say Kal practice and practice and didn't eat and sleep and practice and practiced. As in, he practiced a lot for this -_-;;
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Yes.."wow". Light builds 1 marine and expands before machine shop. Maybe he will try a double expand to respond. The marine dies to a probe + zeal. Cc up for light. And a STARPORT started. A vult is out, kills a probe and chases a zeal. 2 vults mine up the high ground above the ramp leading to lights 2nd nat. Hmmm Vult drop 3rd cc from light? Interesting.
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lol, fast stargate from kal
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Light lost to Spear, who's a nobody in PvT
I believe in KaL !
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maybe he will die to hunger or tiredness ;D!
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lmao, that's right, go straight to carriers
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Expected stargate already up for Kal. 5 goons out. 4 vults ready for light. They have sped now and kill a probe near the protoss main. As well as a zealot. Nice distraction tactic for the dropship. I like the way light is playing this. However Kal Has a cannon up so it wont do THAT much damage. Fleet beacon up.
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Fast carriers.... die Kal, die.
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Hah nice by light. Stays just out of cannon range and gets a few probe kills. He also spots the early carriers. Lets see if carriers really are > T on katrina
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Go Light, GO! beat Katrina's ass!
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A zealo dies to mines. Light has his 3rd base. As ell as 4 turrets and 4 tanks guarding. 2 carriers are out and have 1 intercepters lol. He also has an armory up.
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Are you still unsure? Kal has skipped reavers, templar, and went range to carrier. Please die Kal. You are a lame.
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On February 05 2008 18:46 Elsi wrote:Light lost to Spear, who's a nobody in PvT I believe in KaL ! Gee maybe he was preparing for his MSL fight instead and not giving a shit about the OSL offline prelims?
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On February 05 2008 18:40 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:39 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 05 2008 18:36 Aesop wrote: Both Kal and Light played in the OSC, and both lost in the finals. What tragedy! what? the OSC final was between much and sea besides how can both players lose in any finals?
They lost in their respective group finals in the PSL, is that so hard to understand? Ok, he mixed up OSC with PSL, but seriously, with all these stages of OGN prelims, that is bound to happen sometime! Ease up. (You too, aggressivesteve)
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Blah such gay shit. Carrier micro picking off gols.
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This is lame
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Hah during the action light drops a tank and vults into the protoss nat and takes out probes, the cannon and some of the P army with mines! Great move. Lets see if light can finally neutralize the 2 carriers raping his gols. He does but Kal is taking his 3rd nexus now. 3 carriers out. Both players playing well.
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Finally Goliath range for Light, so he can fight the carriers effectively. The real trouble is not so much the carriers as the goons which will accompagny them soon.
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there go the armories : D
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Actually I think this is a lil more interesting. I wonder if Light can do it or he will just crumble to carriers after all this time knowing and practicing vs carriers on this map.
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Wow so gay. 3 carriers and a 4 zeal drop take out the armory. Light managing to hold it off for now.
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5 carriers and a group of goons prepared. Carriers dong there thing to lights nat. Picking off turrets like nothing.
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wow, Armory rape is hardcore gay.
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This map is too pathetic.
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If kal keeps playing like this katrina will be the only map he wins
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Tank on the low ground attacking probes while light gets a few goon kills with mines. Carriers are forced back for now. But I dont think light can keep up with this carrier use. Light has 2 wraits though and a goo amount of gols. Kal attacking the T second nat aggresively! Mines and tanks are there but the carriers are quickly neutralizing the tanks. Theres no tanks now and goons poor into the T second nat. Fuck Katrina
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On February 05 2008 18:55 VioleTAK wrote: This map is too pathetic.
wtf, wtf.
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There it goes. Kal 1, Light 0.
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does kal look a bit more pale than usual D:
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On February 05 2008 18:55 Schiller wrote: If kal keeps playing like this katrina will be the only map he wins Wtf are you talking about? Kal played that pretty much perfectly. Other than the few units he lost to mines.
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wow
after seeing how big kal's glasses are i just bursted out laughing for no reason
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katrina is such a shoddy map
its like the mapmaker didnt even take carrier mechanics into consideration
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I thought the armory rape was such a key point. Until then, both players were playing it out pretty well. Light kept a very nice cool response to fast carriers with the drops. Sadly, that map is... one of the worst maps I have seen in awhile. All ruined by it's awful PvT.
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WOW, no commercial break before 2nd match!
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I really didn't realize how imbalanced this map was until this game. Hope Light takes the next 3.
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Even Requiem is not that bad in Terran vs Protoss and THAT means alot.
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On February 05 2008 18:58 Jonteman wrote: WOW, no commercial break before 2nd mathct! Because they realize how pathetic Katrina is, and how bad Light fans probably feel right now, they don't want the bad memory to stick while on a break. DEATH TO KATRINA
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On February 05 2008 18:58 Jonteman wrote: WOW, no commercial break before 2nd match!
No advertiser wants to be associated with Katrina. :D
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Light played that better than most Ts. Too bad it didnt matter at all
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On February 05 2008 18:59 VioleTAK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:58 Jonteman wrote: WOW, no commercial break before 2nd mathct! Because they realize how pathetic Katrina is, and how bad Light fans probably feel right now, they don't want the bad memory to stick while on a break. DEATH TO KATRINA
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On February 05 2008 18:58 Jonteman wrote: WOW, no commercial break before 2nd match!
That's pretty standard in Bo5 matches.
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On February 05 2008 18:57 GTR-2-Go wrote: wow
after seeing how big kal's glasses are i just bursted out laughing for no reason Post a pic of you? Actually this is directed to all the little kids who obsess over progamers looks and feel the need to post about it constantly.
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Why did not Light thumbs downed Katrina? T_T
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I think katrina looks very good. I could never think that it would turn out this unbalanced... even for PvZ!
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We may see a bunker from light here.
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Yep scv drill + marine/vult attack comming up!
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On February 05 2008 18:59 G.s)NarutO wrote: Even Requiem is not that bad in Terran vs Protoss and THAT means alot.
Interesting, I was just thinking about the same
I loved to proxy PvT on Requiem, always some different sh*t hehehe.
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Haha, my little comment has become a rallying cry for Terran players. Burn Katrina, Burn!
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Well done by both players. Light needs to react to the quick citadel though.
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YES SCV ATTACk
You HAVE to do that against an FE
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Ra's PSL game just started on OGN
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Dt drop from Kal. This kid's got balls.
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On February 05 2008 19:04 SuperJongMan wrote: Raaaa ~_~ I stay awake just for u. A aiwerd 1 gate forge nexus build.
screw Kal Light
I think you posted in the wrong topic though
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Light managed to stop the FE, but now a DT drop is incoming - Robotics done warping and Templar Archives already done. Light getting a CC.
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On February 05 2008 19:05 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: Dt drop from Kal. This kid's got balls.
it's pretty much his only chance now
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On February 05 2008 19:00 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 18:57 GTR-2-Go wrote: wow
after seeing how big kal's glasses are i just bursted out laughing for no reason Post a pic of you? Actually this is directed to all the little kids who obsess over progamers looks and feel the need to post about it constantly.
erm, how am i obsessing? i just posted a little quip about something minor, no need to be massively anal retentive about it.
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Ebay just now starting for light..he could be in trouble=/
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Engbay just building for Light - by my call it will be too late, as the shuttle just appeared. 2 DTs inside and Kal's 1st person is being shown. Light drives past the shuttle with 2 vultures though, I dont know if he saw.
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wow................. horrible turret positioning
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Dts will do some damage but light will defend without too much loss. Well done.
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Beautiful play from light. He will take this easily.
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Finally a scanner for Light, so he can clear out the DT infestation in his main. Didnt do all too much damage but stopped him from mining for a bit. Light landed his barracks at the 4 expansion of Kal and produced firebats there.
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Orange push blob coming down, but Kal has too much goons to push through so easily, Light just brought 2 tanks in total.
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I take it back lol. Light gets overconfident.. a lot like me and runs into a MUCH larger goon army.
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Kal's goons are chasing the tanks towards their natural, where they finally siege up. Small contain now from Kal. Shuttle is travelling again. Light finally adding more facts, armory and his starport with addon is blinking - drop incoming?
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Kal's shuttle is looking for a landing place, but barely makes it out of turret range. Arbiter tribunal done for Kal, he has a rather large goon / zeal force. While dropping 4, Light pushes out with a small force but gets taken out easily. Kal now short before pushing into Light's natural.
Four tanks in dropships are forcing Kal into a more defensive position, but Light also cannot find a good place to drop.
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A vult stops Kals attep to expand to a 4th base. Kals shuttle BARELY survives 2 turrets. 2 dropships from light heading to the island but an ob sees them. Light distracts with a small army at front. But kal quickly crushes that and brings his shuttle to save his nexus. But many probes go down. Lightlooking to his the nat/main no openings yet though.
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Kal made 4 cannons at his island base. despite only 3 or so probes being there at the moment Wow nice nada like vult/dropship harass! The probe get away though. And theres an Arb out! Light looks to be in trouble again.
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Kal 3:0 is my prediction. Even if it's easy to predict this after 1:0 already.
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Kal is truly a fantastic protoss.
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Lol, Light is playing so fancy ~_~
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Light is now going for a slow push, claiming the expansion at first. He has solid numbers and scares Kal for now. Deadly drops onto mines kill some vultures.
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Stasis on 4 tanks opens the assault, with some nice storms Kal almost breaks through, but as the tanks unstasis he does not have that much left. Single arbiter popshotting at a tower. Kal dropped the 10 expansion of Light with zealots, killed the turrets and will follow up some more zeals.
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An arb and shuttle harass Lights formation near his 3rd base. A zeal drop takes out some vults. Light has his island cc finally up and has also started a 4th at the high ground. Hes trying to get back in this slowly. Kal launching a big attack with statis and storm! But it looks like light will barely hold...maybe. Kal loses his army but breaks through with 4 goons.. they go down to repositioned tanks. Wow kal quickly comming with zeals under arb and drags some mines into tanks. A zeal drop at lights island is handled by scvs + 1 dropship. However kal drops another 4 zeals but they are dealt with in the same way. kal looking to attack again at front.
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nice reports, keep it up!
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Light has conserved tanks so well this game. Yesss Cmon Super Terran User. Don't lose to Kal.
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Kal takes every mine with a troup of units -.-
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Kal trying to move up to the high ground through the very narrow ramp but quickly realizes how bad of an idea that is and turns around
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Despite that rather good attack by Kal, Light is now in a rather solid state, with 4 bases (dunno if main is already mined out). Kal is still groundforce + arbiter, so theoretically the vulture / tank push should have some chances of success. Light is a bit slow on metal upgrades though, only 1-1 so far and Kal has 002.
RECALL IN LIGHTS MAIN, DOUBLE ARBITER. LOTS OF STUFF DIES.
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Its 4 base vs 4 base. Kal just now starting his 5th. Recall in the main! Ouch .. 2 arbs there...another recall! Lightneeds to handle this and counter to stay in this! Wow beautiful storm drop to complement the recall.
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Goons pick off the sci vessel and hav taken down the main cc and the armories im guessing.
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CLUTCH STASIS ON 5 TANKS IN LIGHTS EX-MAIN! GOONS LIVE! LIGHT GGS!
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that's what you get for not letting sea beat you
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do i smell a comeback from light?
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Excellent game. Well done, Kal.
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Wow kal hits 5 or so tanks with a statis tokeep his fewgoons around long enough. Light ggs after another large p army rolls up on 6 unguarded tanks. Kal played AWESOME this game.
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i predict light takes game 3 and kal takes game 4 to win the series 3-1 (as i predicted earlier)
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On February 05 2008 19:21 pkparadox wrote: do i smell a comeback from light? I voted light and even I doubt it
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Kal has a great chance to win the MSL with a combination of hot streak and very favorable toss maps.
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On February 05 2008 19:22 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:I voted light and even I doubt it
yea i voted light too : \
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i said it couple of weeks ago and the most laugh over me but i will say it again - Kal is the new Bisu
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On February 05 2008 16:49 ray1234 wrote: kal is this season's mind.
Yes, please.
Edit: comparing him to Bisu isn't that off either (although he has a lot to prove until then) - like Bisu, Kal's best MU is PvZ. Kal vs. Jaedong should prove interesting...
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On February 05 2008 19:21 Sunyveil wrote: that's what you get for not letting sea beat you hahaahha that's what i was thinking. honestly sea would have trouble with this level of protoss play though
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On February 05 2008 19:25 disciple wrote: i said it couple of weeks ago and the most laugh over me but i will say it again - Kal is the new Bisu
omg blasphemy
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On February 05 2008 19:25 disciple wrote: i said it couple of weeks ago and the most laugh over me but i will say it again - Kal is the new Bisu
We're still laughing.
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On February 05 2008 19:25 disciple wrote: i said it couple of weeks ago and the most laugh over me but i will say it again - Kal is the new Bisu
yea he'll get beat by mind in the finals.
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guys i think i just saw girls with lolipops dancing on my screen
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why is taeyeon from SNSD so cute?
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mind will watch the final on the tv
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On February 05 2008 19:25 pkparadox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 19:25 disciple wrote: i said it couple of weeks ago and the most laugh over me but i will say it again - Kal is the new Bisu omg blasphemy You mean Kal WILL BE the new bisu? Because saying Kal is the new bisu at this point is pretty rediculous. Kal has a long way to go. But he has the potential.
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I honestly think Sea would have 3-0 ripped Kal to shread :-) Bah!
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yeah thats what i mean - kal is already a top 10 player and i think the only toss better than him in the moment is stork but you cant be sure even bout him... I'm a huge Bisu fan ,you got me all wrong, i wanna see the same guy who 3:0d the 82% maestro
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On February 05 2008 19:31 VioleTAK wrote: I honestly think Sea would have 3-0 ripped Kal to shread :-) Bah!
Not on these maps, rather a 0-3 ":-)"
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On February 05 2008 19:35 Sunyveil wrote: I sense cheese from kal
maybe not.
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I hate it like Light always looks like he finally picks up some momentum and then crumbles again. Depressing.
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Light top right, Kal bottom left, Kal with no exe yet
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Hmm probably dt from kal, with proxy hidden DT tech.
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Really nice anti zeal setup from light by the way
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Sneaky tech at the 6 position, with citadel and archives to follow.
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Light should be able to pick up on it though, provided he gets his scv past that goon Most likely FD from Light. Kal looking to make a nexus before his archives? Or maybe right after. Ya that Kal also proxies a gateway before his nexus (near the tech)
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ok Light has an scv in the main. He SHOULD know something is up. Lets see how well he responds.
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Six marines and tank chasing away 2 goons 1 zeal while Light is expanding. Kal also took his natural and will be getting DTs from his proxy gate at 6.
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On February 05 2008 19:39 Aesop wrote: Sneaky tech at the 6 position, with citadel and archives to follow. Vults and marines in the protoss base avoiding the 1 dt! Great play from light here...Ohhh theres a dt in the terran main getting scv kills. This will all come down to lights vult micro. Fuck 2 dts inlights main. Kal has lost a ton of probes though.
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Light managed to reclaim his main base, he is adding a scanner there now, which almost gets taken down by a DT, but a scan from expo saves it. Light looking strong at the moment, 2 bases and DT proxy deflected. Lets see if he can keep up better than last game.
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Dts are cleared. And theres still a barrier of mines blocking the protoss nexus! Its cleared now , obs out? Couldnt see. Kal has 3 goons ready to defend. As well as a nice 3 pylon wall to narrow the ramp choke. A rax has finally spoted the hidden dt tech/gate. Support bay started!
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Kal with support bay now. Light has his Raxx floating comfortably over the little proxy base of Kal's. Sending in vultures to seal off the gateway with mines and hitting the pylon there. Shuttle going for Kal.
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Kal showing nice mine disarm, but 6 in total are too much for his goon. THe pylon at the proxy base dies. Reaver is forced to defend the main base against a proxied firebat which the barracks built there.
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Light deals well with the reaver drop at his natural, loses almost nothing. Taking his min only now, as does Kal.
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Two stargates with fleat beacon for Kal, and just as these are shown a scan sweeps over them - Light KNOWS.
And makes his move: Some gol / tank moving towards Kal's natural, are going to siege at the ledge position where they can target the protoss natural.
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this is looking bad for me.
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i think flash takes this game, cos he is pressuring right now..
but kal will rejoice in the end
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With the raxx spotting over the cliff, Light manages to halt mining at Kal's natural. Goons are going the way around but fail to break the push due to incoming tank reinforcements.
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its still Light
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On February 05 2008 19:49 wo0py wrote: i think flash takes this game, cos he is pressuring right now..
but kal will rejoice in the end
Yeah replace flash with light and you are ok.
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Three carriers come for the rescue of the hard-pressed protoss ground troops. Light has to retreat for now, but if the minimap does not fail me, he is taking 12 and bottom right in the process.
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While the carriers are breaking into Light's main base, he is sending some vultures for harass, taking out the templar archives - maybe a good move, as storm would be dangerous for his goliaths. Carriers have free reign in Light's main base, I dont quite understand, as he should have enough ressource inflow to mass goliaths now.
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Light's whole army chases the protoss ground which attacked bottom right. Kal now almost exclusively on carriers and Light has a solid goliath force going.
Bunch of metal tearing into Kal's min only, making him concede.
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yes! really good play by Light!
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haha sorry i hope it comes to an 5th now.. that would be soo suited for an ro4!!
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Now cmon, one more and then beat Katrina!
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Gah. Finish it Kal please 3-1 EZ.
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Come on Light. Who cares if its Katrina and Loki II.
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Yeah, let's say NO to having 4 terrans in the semis. That would be just disgusting.
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Lokiiiiiii. Green Light on the left, light blue Kal on the right.
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I think Light might cheese this game for some weird reason.
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On February 05 2008 19:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: Yeah, let's say NO to having 4 terrans in the semis. That would be just disgusting.
Exactly. Especially to the boring-est and most unexciting Terran of the bunch.
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That would be just disgusting. Ugh, that is just a horrifying thought.
Up to 10 games of Tvt glory before another 5 game final!
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gas steal by kal, but on loki II terran can fast expand in response
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On February 05 2008 19:58 Nick_54 wrote: I think Light might cheese this game for some weird reason.
I FUCKING KNEW IT
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Kal put assimilator on Light's gas and himself hasn't got one yet and made an exp in front of main.
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thats it for today, light going mnm-rush i was hoping to see another good game but this will end soon in kal`s favour i think
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On February 05 2008 20:00 Nick_54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 19:58 Nick_54 wrote: I think Light might cheese this game for some weird reason. I FUCKING KNEW IT
1 rax m+m push?
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Ah cmon, who of the other terrans has a real chance? I see Jangbi as the favourite against Upmagic, as he was known for good PvT, Flash is definitely the underdog against Jaedong, and well, with Nada against Mind it might be necessary that a terran pulls through. But even with Light getting it, I would not expect anyone besides Mind / Nada to join him.
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Light rushing to Kal's nat with 3 rines and Kal has 1 zlot to defend. Light keeps pushing marines from the rax and a medic came out. Kal with 2 zlots defending and chasing an scv.
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Ok, I guess just 1 rax acad into cc to avoid dt's again.
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Light expanding and going to attack with a small M&M force + 1 firebat.
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On February 05 2008 20:01 Aesop wrote: Ah cmon, who of the other terrans has a real chance? I see Jangbi as the favourite against Upmagic, as he was known for good PvT, Flash is definitely the underdog against Jaedong, and well, with Nada against Mind it might be necessary that a terran pulls through. But even with Light getting it, I would not expect anyone besides Mind / Nada to join him.
Still it would be nice to see a PvP for once, its like the white elephant of the starleagues nowadays. Whereas TvT is all over the freaking place.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Lights infantry force is taken out without too many losses, Kal is getting a support bay for reavers.
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oh ok. at least no stupid all in , but I dont think this will be enough c´mon light, show some of your skill!!!
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Counter for Kal - 3 goons and making a support bay RVR!
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Hungary11232 Posts
Drop loading up for Kal with one reaver 2 zealots. Light has a tank at his main, but not much else.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Kal goes for the natural, but does not get many scv kills due to mineral placement. Shuttle now continueing for the main base. Some marines manage to heavily damage the shuttle before being splashed into little balls. Reaver is still going, gets a turret kill at the backdoor base. Light has a starport done and will get a wraith now to deal with that harassment.
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omg kal's reaver control = sexy
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Light's second exp just finished also did the ebay. Shuttle in main but got deflected by some rines and a tank. Kal showing perfect reaver shuttle micro and killing like 6 rines and a tank and a bunch of scvs. Whooooaaa more scv on the account of Kal and shuttle is stil up and going.
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HonestTea
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Good play by Kal, took this series right and took it proper
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Now that Kal has raped Light's eco he's going 3 gate carrier. It's over for Light.
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3 stargate vs 3 starport, wtf??
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Hungary11232 Posts
Reaver shown with 14 kills. 3 stargate + beacon for Kal now. Light is definitely prepared worse than he was at blue storm, as the reaver harass cost him mining time and nerves. Light getting tri-starport now, seems like he knows about the threat.
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Kal now into 3 Stargate Carriers
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Hungary11232 Posts
First three carriers incoming, not many wraiths done for Light yet. I am not sure if Kal knows of the counter Light is preparing, but he has observers around. Carriers entering the terran encampment from the north, tearing up turrets at the backdoor base.
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HonestTea
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Bunch of wraiths havocing the carriers!
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THATS WHAT i'M FUCKNG TALKING ABOUT LIGHT!!!
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Hungary11232 Posts
Wraiths come in, stream lags, CARRIERS DEAD, but still economical damage done.
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3 carriers down and Light saves his expo
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Hungary11232 Posts
But there is a large ground force of Kal moving towards the terran base now, I dont know if Light can hold that.
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HonestTea
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NAH MY INSTINCTS WERE RIGHT
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Huge ground + air attack by Kal. Prolly he starts smelling terran machinery getting warm and ready to kick in.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Kal doing the Katrina move - clear out tanks with carriers and move in with ground afterwards. Light tries to stop the carriers with wraiths, but by now there are 5-6 observers around.
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On February 05 2008 20:09 Hyperionnn wrote: KAL IS NEW BONJWA!
Jeez take it easy... it's a MSL quarterfinal and he plays an at best litte above average tvp player on hopeless tvp maps...
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Kal knows he has no chance and retreats to center of the map. 2x12 zlots and like 6 carriers roaming the map.
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Yeah, the maps won this more than Kal did.
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On February 05 2008 20:12 Adamthegreat wrote:Jeez take it easy... it's a MSL quarterfinal and he plays an at best litte above average tvp player on hopeless tvp maps...
He already beat 2 ex-bonjwas in his MSL road, and besides Katrina, he's playing really well.
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Probably we'll see only one huge battle the victor of which will get the game
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Hungary11232 Posts
Corsairs in the mix now for Kal, to combat the wraiths. He is coming in from the southern bridge now towards the natural of Light. Still fcking many ground troups and carriers, Light may have some Goliaths but his numbers are crumbling.
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Hungary11232 Posts
So we see Kal in the GOM TV 4 Semis - well played, kid.
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Lol @ how confident Kal plays
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Kal added a few corsairs to the mix and Light, of course, crumbled. There's no way to come back from that severe an economic deficit.
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i wonder if kal practiced with hwasin and light with bisu
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Osaka26947 Posts
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Well, I am happy for the LB points but my heart bleeds for Light.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
grr kal is taking down too many of my favourite players for me to like him >.< BURNNNNNn
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Lolz. Light once again doesn't show any of the potential I had hoped for. Ggz : (
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3 points is mine, easy kal for the crown! who will he play against in the semis?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage
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Melbourne5338 Posts
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oh damn this was bo5 -.- went away after 2 games^^
but steve (ab)using maps is an important ability and neither loki nor zodiac are imba
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thx pachi hope jangbi beats up, therefore we'll have a P in the final...
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On February 05 2008 21:24 BeaTeR wrote: thx pachi hope jangbi beats up, therefore we'll have a P in the final... Worse than that if Up wins there's a chance of a TvT final... and we definitely don't want that.
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On February 05 2008 21:40 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 21:24 BeaTeR wrote: thx pachi hope jangbi beats up, therefore we'll have a P in the final... Worse than that if Up wins there's a chance of a TvT final... and we definitely don't want that.
I really want that =D
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Hungary11232 Posts
On a sidenote, you know which map Light plays in the GomTV invitational against which race? (^^) + Show Spoiler +TvP on Katrina, TvZ on Blue Storm. He really IS unlucky
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On February 05 2008 21:40 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 21:24 BeaTeR wrote: thx pachi hope jangbi beats up, therefore we'll have a P in the final... Worse than that if Up wins there's a chance of a TvT final... and we definitely don't want that. if up somehow makes it thru both jangbi and kal, then I think a TvT final will be very entertaining with him in it edit: and that's only if JD somehow fails...
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On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage
He played very well on Zodiac
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On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game...
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On February 05 2008 20:14 Hyperionnn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 20:12 Adamthegreat wrote:On February 05 2008 20:09 Hyperionnn wrote: KAL IS NEW BONJWA! Jeez take it easy... it's a MSL quarterfinal and he plays an at best litte above average tvp player on hopeless tvp maps... He already beat 2 ex-bonjwas in his MSL road, and besides Katrina, he's playing really well.
He's playing well, I agree... But.. he beat a Savior that looses almost all games lately, and a mediocre to average terran in Ruby in the round of 32. He then paired up with a mediocre to averag zerg in Kwanro and beat him in his (supposedly) best match up.
And now he played good solid pvt on good pvt maps vs Light, who is not directly known to be a tvp killer...
Bonjwa is a term no easily thrown around.. I wouldn't even call Jaedong a Bonjwa even though he totally crushes all opposition right now. Bonjwa needs to win at least 2 straight Starleague as well as being dominant in all matchups..
OH well just my opinion anyway..
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On February 05 2008 22:34 Adamthegreat wrote:He then paired up with a mediocre to averag zerg in Kwanro and beat him in his (supposedly) best match up. sorry but calling Kwanro mediocre to average zerg is just plain wrong.
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United States11390 Posts
On February 05 2008 21:40 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 21:24 BeaTeR wrote: thx pachi hope jangbi beats up, therefore we'll have a P in the final... Worse than that if Up wins there's a chance of a TvT final... and we definitely don't want that. Normally, I would agree with this but it's.....Upmagic.
If anyone can make TvT not a zzz fest then it is him.
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Strange to think of the fact that Kal lost 0-2 to Sync(!) in the last OSL prelim(not todays). He has really improved the past six months.
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On February 05 2008 21:01 pachi wrote:
This is starting to look good. As long as Jangbi or Mind doesn't take it, I'm happy.
One more badge, NaDa!
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On February 05 2008 23:32 amorpheus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 22:34 Adamthegreat wrote:He then paired up with a mediocre to averag zerg in Kwanro and beat him in his (supposedly) best match up. sorry but calling Kwanro mediocre to average zerg is just plain wrong.
hmm maybe I was mistaken there, just checked kwanro in TLPD and he does have some decent results (last season MSL), so I guess he is a little above mediocre, but definitly not more than average.
Average is a bad definition, but I am talking about average in a Starleaguer-sence. I´m sure he is better than say 75 % of progamer zergs if you count them all (maybe even higher).
But my point still was that you can't call someone bonjwa or even close to bonjwa for reaching his first Starleague semi...
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Kal is my favorite toss. Now if only Nada will surprise me even more and make it to the finals along with Kal, my life will be complete.
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i'm happy the only player that i dislike is jangbi, if he win against up argh !!!
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
jaedong 3-1 nada 3-2 Jangbi 3-2
watch
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upmagic will first bash jangbi then walk all over kal. Stoneface -terran2 on the way!
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United States20661 Posts
wow rape.
God the bottom half of the bracket is so stacked compared to the top.
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On February 06 2008 03:27 Last Romantic wrote: wow rape.
God the bottom half of the bracket is so stacked compared to the top. Its because Savior, Bisu etc. were all knocked out of the top
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Hungary11232 Posts
I also think that it depends on the players that advanced: If the quarters had been Sea vs. Kwanro and Jangbi vs. July, maybe it would have looked like a stronger half. But three of these failed in Ro16.
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i HATE YOU KALFAFASFASFAFAS
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Rofl at all the votes for Light. The way he's been playing lately, and on this map pool? That was an easy 3 points.
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Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
I remember Siz)Player promising me some reps of siz)kal and siz)oov when they we're raping JPoD- . Great to see him in doing well in starleagues, when I thtought that he was only good at cheesing =]
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Light... way to jack up my MSL bracket.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 05 2008 22:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game...
personally i thought light played really bad that game so i meant more like... i'd like to see kal in a series on fair maps against a player who doesn't play as bad as light did on zodiac
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On February 06 2008 05:38 Aesop wrote: I also think that it depends on the players that advanced: If the quarters had been Sea vs. Kwanro and Jangbi vs. July, maybe it would have looked like a stronger half. But three of these failed in Ro16.
That doesn't sound really any stronger than the current quarters, might even be worse.
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United States10774 Posts
On February 06 2008 07:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 22:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game... personally i thought light played really bad that game so i meant more like... i'd like to see kal in a series on fair maps against a player who doesn't play as bad as light did on zodiac
lol idk what to say to this
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Kal has some SICK reaver control, and overall a pretty solid game.
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On February 06 2008 13:29 teamsolid wrote: Kal has some SICK reaver control, and overall a pretty solid game.
i agree rarely few toss pros have consistently good reaver control
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On February 06 2008 07:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2008 22:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game... personally i thought light played really bad that game so i meant more like... i'd like to see kal in a series on fair maps against a player who doesn't play as bad as light did on zodiac Really bad? LOL. Light played well. He only made a few mistakes and those were the result of him scouting the island expo late. He got overconfident because of how easily he stopped the early nexus, but Kal lost barely any probes. So once Kal took his nat again it was 3 saturated bases from P against 2 terran. Kals play was essentially a perfect reaction to the scv all in. Taking the island and going dt drop to delay light/prevent him from pushing/establishing a push at his choke was EXACTLY what he needed to do to stay in the game. From there he executed flawlessly to carry out the advantage to a win.
Light made no major errors and only one significant one, pushing out too early with a smaller army than protoss because he misjudged kals early game econ. So unless a terran plays perfectly then they "played really bad? That makes sense.
Give Kal some credit
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Braavos36362 Posts
he didn't scout the island expo late, the shuttle flew right over mines and vultures on the way to the island
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 06 2008 13:42 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2008 07:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 05 2008 22:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game... personally i thought light played really bad that game so i meant more like... i'd like to see kal in a series on fair maps against a player who doesn't play as bad as light did on zodiac Really bad? LOL. Light played well. He only made a few mistakes and those were the result of him scouting the island expo late. He got overconfident because of how easily he stopped the early nexus, but Kal lost barely any probes. So once Kal took his nat again it was 3 saturated bases from P against 2 terran. Kals play was essentially a perfect reaction to the scv all in. Taking the island and going dt drop to delay light/prevent him from pushing/establishing a push at his choke was EXACTLY what he needed to do to stay in the game. From there he executed flawlessly to carry out the advantage to a win. Light made no major errors and only one significant one, pushing out too early with a smaller army than protoss because he misjudged kals early game econ. So unless a terran plays perfectly then they "played really bad? That makes sense. Give Kal some credit
i really thought his factory timing was kinda bad and he sure didnt make many units
definitely way less than he should have
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On February 06 2008 13:45 Hot_Bid wrote: he didn't scout the island expo late, the shuttle flew right over mines and vultures on the way to the island Well he clearly thought it was another attempt at harass or he wouldve layed down a starport right away imo. His turret placement also suggested that light thought it would be reaver harass.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
given the location and direction of the shuttle he cant afford not to, letting that island finish was definitely a mistake
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Keep in mind it wouldve been hard to take out anyways 1 Dropship of P tech units is greater than one dropship of T units, and the island is much closer to the P base.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
if he didnt think it was a worthwhile endeavour he wouldn't have attempted it
but he did attempt it and it was late so he got rolled
its a mistake no matter how you look at it -_-
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United States10774 Posts
On February 06 2008 13:47 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2008 13:42 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 06 2008 07:38 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 05 2008 22:07 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 05 2008 20:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: kal is certainly good at abusing maps
i'd rather be watching him on fair maps though because i want to see what he can do when he doesnt go into the match with a natural advantage Then watch the zodiac game... personally i thought light played really bad that game so i meant more like... i'd like to see kal in a series on fair maps against a player who doesn't play as bad as light did on zodiac Really bad? LOL. Light played well. He only made a few mistakes and those were the result of him scouting the island expo late. He got overconfident because of how easily he stopped the early nexus, but Kal lost barely any probes. So once Kal took his nat again it was 3 saturated bases from P against 2 terran. Kals play was essentially a perfect reaction to the scv all in. Taking the island and going dt drop to delay light/prevent him from pushing/establishing a push at his choke was EXACTLY what he needed to do to stay in the game. From there he executed flawlessly to carry out the advantage to a win. Light made no major errors and only one significant one, pushing out too early with a smaller army than protoss because he misjudged kals early game econ. So unless a terran plays perfectly then they "played really bad? That makes sense. Give Kal some credit i really thought his factory timing was kinda bad and he sure didnt make many units definitely way less than he should have
well there's always many many things to say about what the loser did wrong if one really tried to. Idk how you can just decide his factory timing was bad and that he didn't have enough units..It's all situational and I am sure Light had a game plan and played accordingly
your reasons for why you think Light played badly seem weak, i don't know. Honestly I can't buy your judgements of how fast Light's factory should have been and how many units he shoulda had lol.
All in all, It's unnecessarily taking credit away from Kal
EDIT: I am just a little tired of "Player A didn't play well, Player B just played bad." crap
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