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Jaedong > luxury I want to see hwasin vs jaedong bo5 Hwasin > flash same as above Anytime > nada katrina favors toss in pvt Mind > shine mind's tvt is good
my predictions
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jaedong > luxury flash > hwasin (just because i like flash, both are really good at TvT so im unsure) anytime > nada mind > shine
im really scared about the jaedong vs luxury match but then again i was worried when he faced bisu and when he faced savior and when he faced sea and when he faced iris but he came thru
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Luxury>Jaedong... c'mon lux ^^b Hwasin>Flash... I'd be surprised if Hwasin loses, he's 6-0 on blue storm in TvT Anytime>Nada... Katrina Mind>Shine... Msl champion
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jaedong <> luxury really can't tell but i hope for jd flash > hwasin - hwasin tvt on bs 6-0, flash tvt on bs 3-0 - should be interesting tvt :D anytime > nada - katrina but hope for nada mind > shine but don't care
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Jaedong = Luxury
i think we'll see a stalemate tonight
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On January 29 2008 16:13 Day[9] wrote: Jaedong = Luxury
i think we'll see a stalemate tonight
has there ever been a ZvZ stalemate?
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I saw Jaedong vs Luxury and pissed myself
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jaedong insane zvz hwasin havent seen flashes tvt much nada just cz its NADA mind tvt msl boy
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Luxury, take this down this monster right now The only diffrence between luxury and jaedong, is that Jaedong has been to a Starleague, and Luxury didnt, Luxury show us you can do it
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WHY KATRINA WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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Each of these mu's offers something interesting:
Lux > Jaedong - but Jaedong to take the series! No reason for my vote. Hard to predict what the 2 ZvZ masters with the sickest muta micro in pro gaming right now will do
Flash > Hwasin - Hwasin sux. FBH woulda been so much cooler! Why did he have to lose?!
Nada > Anytime - Nada wins the whole thing cuz he's cool. Sucks that two of my three favourite MSL contenders have to knock each other out!
Shine > Mind - It'll be interesting to see what the champ can do. I'll vote for the random upset just cuz I dunno what's going on
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Jaedong > Luxury --> It's a toss up Flash < Hwasin --> My heart wants Flash, but my brain says Hwasin Anytime < Nada --> This I think will help me to climb a little in LB Shine < Mind --> No brainer
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jaedong > lux... because he is jaedong...
flash > hwasin ... flash plays smarter but hwasin has the APM...
nada > anytime ... tornado terran due for another comeback!
mind > shine... shine is a noob
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Jaedong > Luxury ---- Jaedong is raping people left right and centre. He's absolutely dominant and when it comes to such close ZvZ skill, thats what is going to make the difference.
Flash > Hwasin ---- Flash has eaten what little cheese he had left, and is looking good. He's a pleasure to watch and is my pick to advance.
Anytime > Nada ---- There may be a Nada resurgence some time soon (i'm hoping for it), but it isn't going to be on Katrina vs a currently scary Anytime. If it does happen: Nada will be going very deep this MSL; I'll gladly eat my words.
Mind > Shine ---- Mind's TvT is good. Mind is the former champ while Shine is a chump.
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Braavos36362 Posts
I voted for Shine for several reasons:
1. I think chance of upset is good enough and that so many people voted for Mind that Shine's % chance at winning is EV+ for my liquibet.
2. I hate Mind. He prevented Savior from having possibly one last shot at Bisu before both of them slumped really hard, and robbed the fans of a match that would've been epic no matter what happened.
3. Mind is overrated.
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On January 29 2008 18:13 Hot_Bid wrote: 3. Mind is overrated.
How could he be overrated? He won a title and never got any praise or credit. at least not on TL.net
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And Shine has got a cute nose!
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Hungary11232 Posts
So Jaedong hype goes into the next round . Lets see how Luxury does.
I do not think Mind is overrated. I do think people think Mind could be overrated because he won that MSL, but actually nobody is really hyping him, but as there would be every reason to mindlessly hype them, they preemptively assume that is he is overrated and overhyped. So he is counter-overrated before overrating can even set in.
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his tvz needs polishing for a pro
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I'm hoping for Jaedong to lose here. Luxury is doubtlessly training for both this difficult ZvZ and the ZvP tomorrow, and I'd like him to win one of them and for Bisu to qualify from his OSL group (lulz fanboy joke). Thus, Luxury must win here. Besides, It'd be fantastic for someone to beat Jaedong at his own micromanagement game -> which would require an amazing performance. So It appeases my inner spectator as well.
Flash/Hwasin isn't an exciting game for me and much the same with Shine/Mind. (however, Mind's 'mind > macro' TvT sucess and Shine's TvT could surprise.) Anytime any NaDa could also be good, or both of thme could go to pot. Not sure which.
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yes but luxury has 100% win vs zergs in mbcgame leagues which means this will only occur into a draw
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c'mon Luxury Lets Do This!
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Here we go, Lux @3, Jaedong@12
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Shall i live report?
Zodiac
Jaedong 3 white Lux 12 purple
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Lol, other way around >.<
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Lux scouts correctly, jaedong not. Both players put up Gas + Spawning pool
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Lux scouts correctly, jaedong not. Both players put up Gas + Spawning pool. Lux puts up hatch at nat, jaedong has not yet done so
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Luxury has the same APM as Jaedong, they play with the same style here, May Luxury win
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Purple builds second hatch at his main. White at his expo.
Zerg experts, what does that mean on Zodiac?
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lol, people disagree on the colours. Who is who?
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A 2v2 esqe build from Jaedong... Straight to lair. Scouts Lux's expo. Few lings out for each player
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Hmm what are the colors? :p Thought it was Jae purp but could be wrong
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Jaedong better have an awesome build planned here.
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Lux has more lings, Jaedong's spire slightly ahead, but not noticably. Luxury not building many drops at nat, deciding instead to build lings and mutas. (spires just pop now)
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Jaedong has built scourge. 4 Scourge take out 2 mutas of luxury.
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Damn, Purple most be Jaedong. Such game sense.
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OWandering overlord of lux gets taken down, players exchange scourge hits. Lux heads out with lings but meets many at jaes choke. Jae moves out with many lings, takes out most of luxurys... taking out lux's nat
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Luxury lost his 2nd hat, I think he's fucked.
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Nat goes down. Jaedong ahead in mutas. many more scourge. Looks all but over for lux
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Lux GG's, JD on a ludicrous streak now.
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Easy lb point. I just jumped 1 rank at LB. T_T
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will he ever lose?!?!?!!!?
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Easy liquibet points. JDs ZvZ is sick!
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Fuck you Lee Jae Dong Luxury win the next 2 matches please
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Lux GGs. Lux says something to jaedong. jaedong bows. Good game. Jaedong looks pretty happy with himself.
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What is the name of the song after each game? for instance now after the game Jaedong vs Luxury.
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On January 29 2008 18:37 Alethios wrote: Shall i live report?
Zodiac
Jaedong 3 white Lux 12 purple
SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU
i was late to the game and all i read was that since i didnt want spoiler. And then i was like WTF JAEDONG WHAT ARE YOU DOING all game omg how can you do something like that HOW
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People said the same about all other dominant players. He will lose. In the meantime though, ZvZ is Jaedong's bitch.
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Jaedong went for Lux'es overlord with his mutas, inviting Lux to try to attack his drone line. Jaedong intercepts them with scourge. He kills both the overlord as some of the scourge hit the mutas.
Then, during a muta&scourge micro battle, Jaedong somehow disupts the defensive position of Lux lings by sneaking 2 lings into lux his base. Then he moves in all his lings and catches Lux's lings out of position.
Jaedong takes out the second hatchery and also wins the air battle. gg
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Jaedong power
Both made much lings at the start, then both mix scourge/muta and some small battles with those. But Jaedong sneaked in some lings in lux his base who didnt do any damage but made lux divide his forces and meanwhile jaedong went in with all he had on Lux his expo. He won that battle with a very close margin and managed to take out the hatch with 2lings left. Lux gged few secs later.
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Braavos36362 Posts
13 wins in a row now overall for LJD
18-1 in last 19 games O_O
the last time he lost was OSL Finals Game1 to Stork lols
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On January 29 2008 18:47 AnOth3rDAy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2008 18:37 Alethios wrote: Shall i live report?
Zodiac
Jaedong 3 white Lux 12 purple SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU i was late to the game and all i read was that since i didnt want spoiler. And then i was like WTF JAEDONG WHAT ARE YOU DOING all game omg how can you do something like that HOW
I am SO sorry. Stream buffered a little late. When it smoothed out, the were showing the 3 o clock base, then jaedong's face. then they cut to 12 and showed luxury. I made the assumption that those were the players. Sorry again.
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lol I didn't move A SINGLE place in LB :D
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On January 29 2008 18:47 HaXxorIzed wrote: People said the same about all other dominant players. He will lose. In the meantime though, ZvZ is Jaedong's bitch.
true but then again jaedong's dominance isnt defined by things like oov's macro people just learned to catch up to it which made oov no longer dominant
what makes jaedong dominant is his fuckin amazing game sense, crazy apm, and much more i hope his dominance lasts a long time
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this guy is sick. sick sick sick. seriously, 13 wins streak? what the hell?
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no doubt the strongest player alive right now.
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On January 29 2008 18:45 noojOh wrote: will he ever lose?!?!?!!!?
No
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maybe i overreact but i love jaedong and i just thought he lost and i went insane, then i saw him smile and i became a fucking PSYCOPATH
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On January 29 2008 18:51 Nintu wrote: no doubt the strongest player alive right now.
so true ...
btw can anyone link me to a TL community discussion on the Jae vs Bisu game?
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The song right after each gg is MxPx - Bass So Low. Edit: Sorry mixed up not at that time. But is one of the better songs used in leagues.
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On January 29 2008 18:52 jetpower wrote: The song right after each gg is MxPx - Bass So Low.
no it's not
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Ads are over. Flash and Hwasin are out. Interesting cheerful for Hwasin, something about an SCV. Anybody catch the reference? Flash seems to be having some trouble with his computer, a technician is out and helping
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now gogo Flash! KTFs last resort:D
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and aswell
mxpx - never better than now
koreans love soft punk^^
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jaedong must intimidate his opponents
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What the fuck are you talking about.
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All correct music can be found here.
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Smoking has obviously destroyed your head
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Or maybe he's Oov. Oov had a 13 game winning streak too.
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kingdoms winningstreak was vs newb terrans... not every gosu in every race
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Technicians and suited folk still rummaging around. Looks like we might be starting soon. Displaying player stats. Disappointing that they haven't followed OGN's lead to display the full stats (and not just the MBC stats)
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What exactly was the error holding Hwasin back?
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Both players undefeated on this map it seems. Should add to the drama somewhat. Problems seem to be sorted. Commentators wrapping up.
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Game starting
Blue Storm
Hwasin 2 Red Flash 7 Yellow
promise it's correct this time.
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Hungary11232 Posts
ok, for the Live reporters:
FLASH RED (top right) HWASIN YELLOW ALLIED. (bottom left)
edit: well done Alethios
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Hwasin red?
Dude, stop posting colours.
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On January 29 2008 19:03 Alethios wrote: Game starting
Blue Storm
Hwasin 2 Red Flash 7 Yellow
promise it's correct this time. lololol
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On January 29 2008 19:03 Alethios wrote: Game starting
Blue Storm
Hwasin 2 Red Flash 7 Yellow
promise it's correct this time.
LOL
Flash = RED
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Flash checks for cheese, early SCV scouting Hwasin. FE for hwasin. Flash responds immediatly
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Very nice try Alethios. Please live the business to the pros. Your contribute is appreciated ... not.
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Did they both go FE without scouting out each other? Who adjusted to who?
GOM player just mysteriously crashed...
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OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! That is so bad... my mind said flash. I should just go die now... Continuing untill i collapse from exhaustion or are flamed away...
Factory up for hwasin. 2 going up for flash. Around 4 marines each. Starport going up for hwasin. Then GomTV crashes. It's a sign.... I failed epicly
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hwasin is one of my all-time favorite players
and i just do NOT like flash
ez fanboy vote for me! ^^;
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this time i didnt even trust you so its fine now. first game was ruined though
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On January 29 2008 19:08 Alethios wrote: OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! That is so bad... my mind said flash. I should just go die now... Continuing untill i collapse from exhaustion or are flamed away...
Factory up for hwasin. 2 going up for flash. Around 4 marines each. Starport going up for hwasin. Then GomTV crashes. It's a sign.... I failed epicly
don't dramatize. learn.
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Flash expanding like crazy, 4th CC going up.
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can someone shed some light on Flash mass expoing, putting up his 4th CC, vs hwasins 2.. did I miss something where flash secured a huge advantage?
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So, Blue Storm TvT is essentially who can set up the nicer tank line along the canyon in the middle.
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Failed drop for Hwasin. He aborts it. This should be very good for Flash.
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wow
that's a great build by flash
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2 dropships heading for Flash's main. Repulsed easily however. 4 CCs for flash, vs Hwasins 2. Hwasin throws up an expo at 12, which is within his territory.
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Wow. How can Flash do this?
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Flash taking 6 now too, this is fucking insane, about to be 5 vs 3 incomes soon lol.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Flash is expanding while Hwasin is trying to harass but not getting any damage done. His scouting appears to be subpar. If he doesnt pull anything off, Flash will macro over him.
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Hwasin expands to both mineral only and top left corner. 2 dropships now out for Flash, drops in hwasin's main from 6. Seiged up there.
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hahaha
both players doing a stalemate rush
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Flash is putting down a sci fac and 3-4 ports in this corner expo, fast bcs?
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Hwasin's repulses the tanks, but is forced to bring off SCVs, takes many losses. Flash building 4 more starports, but is scouted by hwasin by scan.
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Flash drops @ 12 from his main. Destroys the forces there, destroying the expo
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Did Flash just win this game?
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GO ON MY BOY YOU ARE DOING IT.
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I've always said that Flash is on his way up. I definitely don't think he'll stop rising until he has some starleague badges.
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Hwasin is about to get his ass handed to him.
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Flash is playing amazing in this game imo
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Battlecruisers coming from flash. Hwasin has completely lost 12, and flash remains heavily seiged there.
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god that's just such an out of control build by flash
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The first battlecruisers pop, currently not upgraded.
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Hwasin dropping flash's main with 6 dropships. Flash drops his own forces on top. Forced to use his battlecruisers to repluse the drop. Another drop from hawsin to follow up
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Flash pushes forward with tanks and BCs into Hwasin's half of map, taking out tanks. Boosters up for hwasin's gols however. 1 BC goes down
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flahs made more expoes more tanks and more BCs hwasin was outplayed here
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Whats the econ count, 5 vs ?
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Flash being rather careless with his battlecruisers, taking large damage. But has pulled them back to repair with many SCVs. Yamato is up and a BC takes out a tank to prove it
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GOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN GOLIATH MICRO LIKE THAT!!!
i mean hwasin is pretty fucked right now but STILL that was SUCH SICK goliath control vs those BCs!!!
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Hungary11232 Posts
SEXY goliath micro against BCs, kills three of their number by outranging.
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hwasin's got some skills with those goliaths. jeesus.
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yeah what the fuck that micro is sick
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Large force of BCs moving up, but are forced to retreat by large number of goliaths. Take large damage before rallying. Repairs going on again. Flash has right side of map with 5 CCs while Hwasin has left aside from the 12 expo which flash is denying him.
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omg.. hwasin just took on 10 bcs with about 7 gols, and the bcs had to retreat?! seems obvious now because of range and speed, but i didn't know you could do that...
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On January 29 2008 19:23 Day[9] wrote: GOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN GOLIATH MICRO LIKE THAT!!!
i mean hwasin is pretty fucked right now but STILL that was SUCH SICK goliath control vs those BCs!!!
yep it was awesome. however flash was so superior this game, it was bashing. Probably coz of the BO thoughm, and hwasin didnt scout it.
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nice gols
but tanks/bc will own hwasin if he doesn't do something about it
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GG from Hwasin, forces decimated, BCs moving into mineral only.
Flash bows to Hwasin, who looks thoughtful.
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yea, cool gols... but overall, that was big time smash. Hwasin had no chance : O
gogo flash
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On January 29 2008 19:23 Day[9] wrote: GOD I HAVE NEVER SEEN GOLIATH MICRO LIKE THAT!!!
i mean hwasin is pretty fucked right now but STILL that was SUCH SICK goliath control vs those BCs!!!
Watch Boxer vs Savior on Monty hall
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Hungary11232 Posts
Well, Hwasin was ineffectual during midgame when flash expanded like crazy. No surprise Flash could afford a BC fleet and Hwasin couldn't.
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Anytime vs Nada on Katrina up next. Then we are into ads. Somebody else want to announce the positions for this game Clearly i'm incapable of doing so.
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i didnt see the start of the game, did whasin play really bad or flash really good in the start?
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Flash is fucking talented omg
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On January 29 2008 19:26 Alethios wrote:Anytime vs Nada on Katrina up next. Then we are into ads. Somebody else want to announce the positions for this game Clearly i'm incapable of doing so. You cant confuse Nada with Anytme and protoss with terran. Or can you?
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Anytime should take this easly. After all he showed in proleauge that he has balls the size of melons and sick goon micro. Plus the map kinda helps him.
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The game came down to the 12 o clock expansion of Hwasin's being denied by a great drop from Flash that Hwasin seemed largely unprepared for.
Is it just me... or is that Breast/Half-Pipe ad particularly weird?
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uaaah just remembering we got another blue storm tvt coming >.<
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On January 29 2008 19:27 AnOth3rDAy wrote: i didnt see the start of the game, did whasin play really bad or flash really good in the start?
3fac vs 1fac1starport
Afther this Flash went on to massvultures with speed and mines and did a nice job by slowing down hwasin on this way. In the meanwhile Flash took 2expos and had equal units when Hwasin finally reached the middle of the map. This gave him the economic upperhand and he finished it off pretty nice.
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It's these kids... who are staring at a poster of some hot korean chick showing her cleavage. Then the kids are shown to be thinking about how the breasts are like snow half pipes and how amazing *insert snowboarding game here* is.
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hwasin couldn't scout flash until his wraith came thats why flash won. He took advantage of it. But flash played crazy in that game. Seriously he had no holes in his games. Seriously this reminds me of nada vs upmagic on arkanoid.
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I am sure the 2nd TvT will be at least as exciting. Mind will look on the edge of losing for half the game when suddenly he turns it around at the 20 minute mark. Or something like that.
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Voted Hwasin but I am really glad Flash won. I am more happy that Flash is turning into very solid player and didn't fade away like umm lets say Ever(PP or whatever was the nick of that only rushing noob.
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I'm looking forward to this Go Anytime, Anytime has this champion factor, Show em what you got
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Longest commercial break ever. Or so it appears to me.
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red button = lower resolution ? edit: whatever stream stopped lagging
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I have work for 20 minutes. When I return I want to see Nada > Anytime Ok?10x
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haha that chick is so nice, and she's gonna get so fat if she eats that food. bad commercial
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come on even in usa the commercial breaks are shorter...
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...And we're back at the MBC studio (after a marathon of ads... each seemed to be played 2 - 5 times). The players are out, this time without any sign of technical troubles.
I've been looking forward to this matchup, arguably the most exciting of the Ro16... It had better go to game 3.
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actually commercial breaks in usa are shorter than most countries in general am i right? Although they have alot MORE commercial breaks. In sweden we dont have them half as often
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MaTRiX[SiN]
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Nada vs anytime is always good
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It's just occured to me now, that in that MSL opening thing... Whatever they were trying to achieve, mind just looks grumpy.
Nada looks... happy. Anytime very serious. Game starting.
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Ok so game 8 has started
Tossgirl is rainbowcolored orc at 27 o clock. Incontrol is transparent warlocs at 5.78 o clock.
map is europe.
remember this is bo5 so whoever loses 4 games wins
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Nada 12 TEAL Anytime 3 RED
Will not post for a month if i am wrong
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Anytime teal terran at 12, Nada red protoss at three.
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Yay... Lazyscv agrees with me. I retain some sanity.
First gateway going up for anytime. Ops to scout with that probe. Nada sealing his door. Anytime drops his gas
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Nada vs anytime rivalry is called 천사록 in korean angel vs death god
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Cybernetics dropped. First zealot catches the first marine as it's popping. Nada manages to save it but loses his depot wall to 2 zealots.
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OMG why didnt nada repair his sup? He deserves no win!
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Machine shop goes down. 2 Zealots in Nadas base. Nada killing with SCVs. Rebuilt the wall but goon picking away at the new depot. Citadel dropped for anytime
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i can't believe he actually lost a supply to 2 zealots
that's pretty amazingly bad, he's so behind because of it
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how can progamers be beaten like that, this is d+ level terran play hehe
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that was really really bad descion making by nada
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god, i dont want this match to finish in 8min. give us a epic 30min. game T_T
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Tank out for Nada, repels the goon somewhat but another 2 on route. Anytime has dropped a pylon at Nada's nat. Drops his own nexus @ nat. Seigemode up. Anytime with 2 gates. 1 DT out
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just GG nada you cant come back
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GG. Nada looks frustrated.
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Engineering bay going up for nada. 2nd DT coming up now. Turret going down but DT attacking wall. Depot goes down. Turret dies. DTs killing everything. Nada GGs
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nada's goose is cooked, i felt like i was watching to D level players playing.... no offence to anytime intended
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wow -.- no more hope in nada.. srry
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Someone should put subtitles on that game, i really wanna see what the commentators said about that game and about nada, also about anytime/jaedong after the game :/
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Nada looks exasperated. Small exchange between the two players. Small nod from anytime. Jaedong looking like a kid who has been given lots of icecream.
Next match is Mind vs Shine on blue storm.
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Lets have 20 more minutes of commercials please, after we saw such an exciting 5 minute DT rush.
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What did Nada do ? -.- Spamming and type GG ?
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I don't understand. How could Nada make a mistake like that? I honestly can't get myself to believe he made that big of a mistake when there was so little to pay attention to!
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On January 29 2008 20:00 Aesop wrote: Lets have 20 more minutes of commercials please, after we saw such an exciting 5 minute DT rush. yeah, and we are about to see an other rape by Mind > the other dude
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Hes probably was nervous about the game. If only he got his ebay abit faster. He should have known anytime was going to do dt. 99% of toss will after a lead like that.
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can't believe i stayed up till 6am to see this kind of performance from Nada -_- hope he'll do well next games though >.<
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Hope of a comeback this season for Nada just died
Was unlucky with the timing of that zealot and his first marine, but even so... Letting that wall fall was inexcusable. Sad to see.
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nervous or not, losing that suply was not pro
why didnt he make firebats and wraiths
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On January 29 2008 20:01 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Hes probably was nervous about the game. If only he got his ebay abit faster. He should have known anytime was going to do dt. 99% of toss will after a lead like that.
not like that woulda made a difference after losing all those scvs + sup -_-
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Kind of refreshing to know pro gamers of nada's calibre can still make stupid mistakes and it's not just me.
But sad at the same time
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Is Nada blind or what?? He let Anytime take down that sup..... Then SCV raping followed,and all led to gg after that....
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Is it just me, or all the matches have been shitastic theese past 2 weeks, I mean plain horrible, Excluding Jaedong vs Iris.All short crappy 1 sided rapes
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Shine vs Mind, do I want to watch that?
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And we're back in the studio for the final game of the night... Much shorter ad break this time. Perhaps there were some more technical difficulties last time? Causing the longer ad break.
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On January 29 2008 20:03 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2008 20:01 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Hes probably was nervous about the game. If only he got his ebay abit faster. He should have known anytime was going to do dt. 99% of toss will after a lead like that. not like that woulda made a difference after losing all those scvs + sup -_- He would be behind a lot but he would at least have a chance. Nada had no luck. His rine spawned outside of the wall and couldn't go back in haha. But i believe nada has a chance 2nd game. Hes comeback from far worse.
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Now for guessing the positions again. Before the game starts I predict: Mind bottom left, yellow, Shine top right, purple.
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Shine looking very grumpy and hungover. Mind looking confident. Game should be starting soon
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all games have been crap yes, maybe sea vs darkelf was somewhat near good, /1st set).. other than that only jae vs iris was outstanding, or even good for that matter.
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I predict mind top blue, shine bottom and white
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On January 29 2008 20:05 Alethios wrote: And we're back in the studio for the final game of the night... Much shorter ad break this time. Perhaps there were some more technical difficulties last time? Causing the longer ad break. Game almost immediately started last time after commercials... now commercials are shorter but they show map, talk shit, show stats and talk more shit before they begin.
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The 2nd TvT on bluestorm begins:
Mind bottom in purple Shine top in green
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Hungary11232 Posts
Well, at least I had the positions right gg M2.
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Standard play so far from both players. Shine being very cautious for cheese, builds a proxy rax of his own, just north of 6
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Mind scouts Shine's smelly cheese, Though Shine is now building 2 factorys just south of 6. 1 marine pushing up from mind
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51134 Posts
didn't these two have the most retarded tvt ever on this map last season?
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Mind attempts to kill a scv in Shine's main. Killed though. Now building a bunker in his nat.
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shine proxying all sorts of shit
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i know it's not nice to comment on a player's appearence, but when they show mind's and shine's long faces my first reaction is that the aspect ratio of my gom player is messed up...
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Starport going up for Shine. Playback flashing... or was that just me? 1 tank out for shine, something researching at machine shop. Control tower going up on port
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Mines up for shine, but mind has wraiths. Cloak researching for shine. Mind harrassing mineral line, kills 3 or 4 scvs before being taken out. Mind building academy
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51134 Posts
anyone elses gom flashing to epileptic proportions?
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On January 29 2008 20:18 GeLaar wrote: i know it's not nice to comment on a player's appearence, but when they show mind's and shine's long faces my first reaction is that the aspect ratio of my gom player is messed up... ROFL
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Shine takes out Mind's wraith. Cloak has finished. Wraiths wandering around freely from shine.
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Damnit, NaDa got horribly smashed. : (
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Hungary11232 Posts
Shine is trying to be cute with proxy, fast wraith, cloak, whatever, but Mind is showing solid defense. Should be ahead in economy soon. And yes, GOM added some nice effects to the show, blackscreens every now and then.
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Yeah... mega flashes from GomTV. Shine manages to kill off a tank. Scans from Mind. Takes out a wraith, other two down to low hp. Very very strange things happening to stream now. Another starport from shine
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On January 29 2008 20:20 GTR-2-Go wrote: anyone elses gom flashing to epileptic proportions? MBC needs to just use Daum or something. This is ridiculous.
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Both players now have Nats well up and running. Mind has goliaths out now, but Shine continues to pump wraiths, loses another 2. Down to 1
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Hungary11232 Posts
Both have their natural expansion up now, Mind getting an armory for Goliaths, Shine with one more starport, both of which are blinking now. Mind with some marines against the harassing wraiths. he has Goliaths now and 2 scanners.
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Hungary11232 Posts
Mind's ground force is on the move, eliminating 2 tanks standing in front of his base. Shine sends his Wraiths to deal with it but gets mutilated. Mind now attacking the 2 proxy facs.
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someone call an ambulance
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Hungary11232 Posts
Shine, in short, might be dead.
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Mind pushing up with large force. Shine's forces are insuffient. The so called contain is breached. Shine in full retreat... looks disapointed. Pretty much game over now... mind has lots of tanks and goliaths, Shine has nothing and his proxy factories just died
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Hungary11232 Posts
And that's it. Mind with solid defense, Shine disappointing.
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Mind continuing to push forward. Shine has to rebuild from Rax up. Mind reaches shine's nat and Shine types out. Mind walks out straight away.
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honestly, if this is the level play you need in order to be at the top these days, maybe i should look into the challenge tournament or something..
seriously, aside for some micro display by jaedong and hwasin today, the games sucked yet again.
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3/4 Fuck you Lee Jae Dong, Lux, dont dissapoint me next week But I have to say something, Mind despite not showing impressive stuff, or being too flashy, just wins striaght up and gets the job done
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Pretty disappointing set of games in truth. NaDa/Shine/Luxury didn't perform anywhere near what I was hoping for.
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Shine looks very disappointed and almost lost. Mind comments about how much of a chump Shine is, and how baddass he is.
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flash vs Hwasin was good and lux vs Jaedong too
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3/4 hwasin failed me
Mind's tvt and tvp is solid.
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Mind is solidness incarnate.
Shine kind of just wanders off afterwards... perhaps back to the pub
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3/4 i wont vote for hwasin next week coz flash is obviously better
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On January 29 2008 20:26 samachking wrote: 3/4 Fuck you Lee Jae Dong, Lux, dont dissapoint me next week But I have to say something, Mind despite not showing impressive stuff, or being too flashy, just wins striaght up and gets the job done
you cant be serious. go with jaedong next week, just a tip...
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4/4 ez and 8 correct votes in a row And that would be 9 when Jaedong takes out Best
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On January 29 2008 20:29 LaZyScV wrote: So, Lecaf boys go 2-0, WeMade 1-1, and OGN 0-2.
I actually enjoyed two of these games: Jaedong vs Luxury and Flash vs Hwasin. Jaedong again shows why he's the man right now, owned Luxury from start to finish. Flash showed his improvements and that he's not somebody to mess around with; I really enjoyed his game against Hwasin, outclassed him entire game.
Have to agree with you there... by far the most enjoyable matches. Lets hope for better out of the losers next week. Jaedong vs Iris aside, we've been starved for epic matches recently.
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Actually i wanted to see a hwasin jaedong bo5 but flash has improved a lot since they last met so dont know.
Shine's build was actually nice i was scared for a moment.
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Lol i looked up the last mind vs shine on blue storm, shine cheesed last time too with a weirdly placed barracks, and mind counter-cheesed with a proxy factory!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 29 2008 20:41 ShAsTa wrote: 3/4 Was hoping for lux
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4/4 I moved up about 10 places lol
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On January 30 2008 04:06 Wizard wrote: 3/4, Hwasin >.<
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4/4 but july blew it for me last week
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Lol that Nada vs Anytime game sure sucked.
Wth, loosing that depot was so stupid tbh
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yeah always fun to get 4/4 voting for the favorites...
my thoughts
jaedong's decision to put second hatch in main was pretty damn smart... as he showed later, putting it at the nat only opens it up to counterplay, while leaving it in the base means only a few lings at the top of the ramp can protect it. Also his first four scourge were sick.
flash's build was monstrous, and it seemed like everything went according to plan for him. hwasin though seemed to run out of ideas after his first failed drop in the back of flash's base. then he just sat around doing nothing, essentially, until it was far too late. the goliath micro was pretty nice though.
nada... sucked.
mind showed great responsiveness. absolutely no panic, just casually making the right decisions in the face of his opponent's strat and rolling over him.
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Did anyone notice the subminal message in the flashes during Mind vs Shine? Download yakii's video and check it out, its at around 6min when Mind is harassing Shine with vultures. The time "04:36" shows up on the screen for a split second. I don't know what that was all about.
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Number 13 Liquibet! YES!!1
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United States7488 Posts
On January 30 2008 08:32 ktp wrote: Did anyone notice the subminal message in the flashes during Mind vs Shine? Download yakii's video and check it out, its at around 6min when Mind is harassing Shine with vultures. The time "04:36" shows up on the screen for a split second. I don't know what that was all about.
it did that last night in Gom Player too.
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yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
semioldguy, would you add these youtube links on your opening post?(just copy & paste it)
+ Show Spoiler +
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United States7488 Posts
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On January 29 2008 20:03 AnOth3rDAy wrote: nervous or not, losing that suply was not pro
why didnt he make firebats and wraiths
I think it was because he didn't scout Anytime's carriers, so there was no need
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dude.. its so sad to see nada lose like that man!
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4/4 =] vote for flash anyday hes playing!
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4/4
flash is probably my favorite terran
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imo they were all predictable. maybe nada vs anytime would have been the other way around due to nada's recent shape...
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ARRGGH 2/4 dislike flash and would never vote against Nada on principles
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Man the people on this board are way too into.. uh
history repeating itself? I guess?
Anyway just cuz it happened in the past doesn't mean it'll happen all the time!
Though + Show Spoiler +jaedong losing to best of all people was kinda surprising
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On January 31 2008 07:25 blagoonga123 wrote:Man the people on this board are way too into.. uh history repeating itself? I guess? Anyway just cuz it happened in the past doesn't mean it'll happen all the time! Though + Show Spoiler +jaedong losing to best of all people was kinda surprising
bonjwa gogo xD
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