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Thanks to KizZBG for the awesome banner!Thursday, 18 January 2008 Event Time: 17:00 GOMTV MSL S4 Ro32 Group F rA < Blue Storm > ShineGoRush < Loki II > LightWinners Game < Zodiac > Losers Game < Zodiac > Final Game < Katrina > Please do not ask "lol hey gais Ho wdo i watch tihs!?" Because you're not supposed to do thatI made it since no one else did... Results+ Show Spoiler +rA <<<< Shine GoRush <<<< Light shine >>>> light rA <<<< GoRush Light >>>> GoRush Light and Shine advance to RO16
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On January 17 2008 16:40 Ancestral wrote:Please do not ask "lol hey gais Ho wdo i watch tihs!?" Because you're not supposed to do that haha, nice TLPDize ^^
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KANG MIN !
RESTORE YOUR PRIDE!
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And Gorush : ))))))))))))))))))
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Kang Min and Gorush gogogogoogo
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Yes ... I hope they do well based on my Liquibet, since I think nostalgia is the best way to determine how to gamble.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Ra > shine Light > Gorush Light > Ra Shine > Gorush Ra > Gorush
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51132 Posts
Hope for a Ra-GoRush rematch :D
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On January 17 2008 16:46 Plexa wrote:Ra > shine Light > Gorush Light > Ra Shine > Gorush Ra > Gorush you have poor gorush losing three times there
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come on ra. gom had better not fuck up Ra seems strangely oblivious to how much I want him to win this
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Event time is 17:00, not 19:00.
Which means it's starting now
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
yay stream seems to be fine today
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On January 17 2008 17:02 Live2Win wrote: yay stream seems to be fine today
Not even cruel laggy foreign internet streams are cruel enough to keep sun God rA down...
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Hey! It's Kang Min. I expect him to win. No matter what.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
w000t starting.
Anyone want live reports?
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On January 17 2008 17:02 Jonteman wrote: Kang Min new glasses? He has like 60 pairs.
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Blue Storm
Shine top right Ra bottom left
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Ancestral, use [/center][center] for the games (in the reverse order).
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ra pylon in middle, proxy! supply wall for shine
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ra CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESING...6th probe leaves base
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51132 Posts
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probe preventing rax in wall! probe almost dies to 2 scv but new probe arrive! shine rax near cc, ra gate middle
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
OMG KANGMIN AND HIS DREAMER STYLE STRATS
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very good start for junjin gate. SUCH a long barracks stall OMG PLZ DIE SHINE.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
ROFL 2 PROBES HAVE GAS EZ
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So Signature.
I love him so much.
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2 probes kill scv making rax! ra gases shine as well. first zealot out, rax done. zealot in main now harassing scvs
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
RA MAKING OFFENSIVE PYLON, I'M GUESSING FORGE
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Live2Win
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Shine making academy! Cannon going up for Ra!
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Live2Win
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Shine going 1 rax acad and is now stuck in his base by zeal/cannon
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Ra is inside Shine's camera. ~_~
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2 probes kill scout scv in ras main. zeal + probe kill supply depot at choke. 1 more scv dead. making bunker near rax. forge in middle for ra. shine has retaken gas. core for ra, academy for shine.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
2 zeals hitting gas, 2 zeals microing vs mnm.
Ra builds shield battery next to cannon!!!
ROBOTICS GOES UP BELOW IT
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
RA MAKING OFFENSIVE ROBO
SHINE HAS FACTORY ALMOST FINISHED
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cannon, battery, and robotics at shines nat! factory for shine. and bay. first medic out. 5 zealots for ra.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
I don't think that Robo is a good idea, he should just expo after the small containment.
OMG RA AIMS AND KILLS A MEDIC
ONLY 1 MED LEFT.
ROFL RA GOING DBL TECH TEMPLAR ARCHIVE AND ROBOTICS SUPPORT BAY BOTH GOING UP
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zealots and mm dancing, zealots trap and kill 1 medic. first bat out. citadel done. support bay AND archives building! starport for shine. first goon out.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
SHINE HAS TANK AND SMALL MNM FORCE
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
MNM FIGHING WITH ZEAL/GOON, ZEALOTS DOING GOOD
REAVER OUT
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Live2Win
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REAVER KILLS TANK
SHIT REAVER GETS KILLED BY TANK AND MNM
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51132 Posts
double templar archive?
wtf
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
SHINE MAKES WRAITH AND SENDS OUT
DT NOW OUT AND HITTING SHITS AND STUFF
ANOTHER REAVER OUT
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
ADSFADSFASDFASDFASDF
REAVER+DT KILLS TANK BUT ANOTHER TANK AND LIKE 2 MARIENS KILL BOTH DT AND REAVER
ANOTHER REAVER OUT, ANOTHER DT MOVING AROUND
RA STARTS NAT
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y is kangmin just throwing reavers...
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On January 17 2008 17:12 GTR-2-Go wrote: double templar archive?
wtf I think he just means his tech tree is branching 2 ways at once.
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On January 17 2008 17:12 GTR-2-Go wrote: double templar archive?
wtf no only one. he meant double tech.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
2 DT AND REAVER GOING
OMG DROPSHIP COMES OUT AND GOING TO DROP SOMETHING AT KANGMIN'S BASE
RA HAS NAT AND GATEWAYS AT MAIN
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.... wha....
Ra is using the long lost art of DT Reaver?
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... no kangmin what are u doing!
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
OMG 7 RINES + 1 MEDIC DROPS AT RA'S NAT, KILING NEXUS
RA'S BASE IN DEEP SHIT
NEXUS GOES DOWN, SHUTTLE OUT AND SAVES REAVER AND ABANDONS THE OFFENSIVE EXPO
MIND HAS CC BUILD AND LIFTING AS HE CLEARS OUT RA'S OFFENSIVE FORCES.
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the game is back to each having their own expo, fucking break.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Ra kills the threat with dt.
Shine has cleared Ra's offensive cannon+robotics+battery and started nat.
Ra has 2 goons 1 shuttle+reaver 1 dt.
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ra suddenly looks behind
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
2 REAVERS KILLS A TANK AND KILLS SOME SCVS
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WOW INCREDIBLE reaver micro. Dodges a tank shot
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Ra restarts his nat, dt goes in to harrass, scan chases it out
ANOTHERE MNM FORCE LANDS IN RA'S MAIN, GOING TO KILL BUT 2 GOONS THERE TO DEFEND
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On January 17 2008 17:16 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:WOW INCREDIBLE reaver micro. Dodges a tank shot how can a reaver dodge a tank shot...?
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GOONS + PROBE KILLS THE DEFNESE, RA STARTING HIS MIN ONLY EXPO, DRSHIP FLIES OUT AGAIN FROM SHINE'S BASE, DROPS 4 VULTS WITH SPEED+MINE
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
VULTS KILLS GOONS
2 REAVERS DROP IN SHINE'S MAIN BASE, SHINE RUNS HIS SCVS AWAY 1 REAVER DIES
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This game has turned rather unusual and cool.
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haha fun game but cant believe ra lost his lead like that
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
From what I see this is a very close game... not in the sense that both are playing well, but rather Ra is playing extremely risky and what he does can swing the game drastically
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United States20661 Posts
From what I see rA is behind
fuck
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Ok ra's min expo and nat both safe now. ANOTHER DSHIP GOES TO RA'S MAIN, 4 VULTS RUNS IN, RA BRINGS IN GOOSN TO DEFEND, OBS ON ITS WAY OUT
OHHH SHIT SHINE HAS 8 TANKS AND A FEW MORE UNITS ON IT'S WAY OUT TO ATTACK RA
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gomtv is a joke compared to daum
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On January 17 2008 17:17 Darkmole wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2008 17:16 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:WOW INCREDIBLE reaver micro. Dodges a tank shot how can a reaver dodge a tank shot...? He picked it up at the exact second a tank fired so the tank firing animation went off but didnt damage the reaver.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
OMG SHINE HAS A BIG FORCE, TANKS AND VULTS HAVE SET UP CAMP AT THE MIDDLE RIDGE, REAVER + ZEAL'S TRYING TO CLEAR IT OUT WITH SOEM DAMAGE
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O man, that center area on Blue Storm is evil. So evil. I see it abused so much T.T
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
SHINE SIEVES UP AGAIN NEAR THE OTHER END
OMG ZEALOTS AND GOSU ASS REAVER MICRO SAVES THE EXPO, BUT LOTS OF GOONS DIE
SHINE HAS MIN ONLY, BOTH SAME NUMBER OF EXPOS....
THIS NOT LOOKING TOO GOOD FOR OUR KANGMIN
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Ra is showing some hero reaver micro, but his macro seemed to have fallen behind Shine's This is gonna be tough.
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Sigh.
Why couldn't he just hold the 6 zealots early game.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
RA LOST TOO MANY GOONS TRYING TO DEFEND HIS NAT FROM TANK FIRE.
RA HAS MANY GATES NOW, BUT STILL LOOKING VERY CLOSE
SHINE HAS NO VULTS WHICH MEANS RA COULD BREAK IT WITH 1 GOOD BATTLE
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United States20661 Posts
These random vult raids are slaughtering ra
cute reaver move but he's still screwed
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On January 17 2008 17:22 noojOh wrote: gosu reaver gosu reaver Ya the reaver is nice, but unfortuneately ra is losing 5-8 goons everytime he uses it
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United States20661 Posts
Where did shine's army go LOL
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ra seriously needs to break out soon. it's over if he can't.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
3 DT'S OUT GOES TO KILL TANK
KILLS 1 TANK AND GETS SCANNED TO DEIT'S DOOM
ANOTHER DT KILLS A TANK
2 ZEALOTS KILL ANOTHER TANK
RA TRADING UNITS WITH TANKS
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Ugh.. wasted 4 DTs for nothing.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
RA HAS EXPO AT 12 AND NOW MAYNARDING THERE
FUUUUUCK ALL PROBES GET INTERCEPTED BY VULTS
FUCK YOU VULTURES
FUCK YO
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okay, why are you taking the 12?? a tank can just break that.
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United States20661 Posts
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Yep thats pretty much game=/ 0/1
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Shine unsieges, moves forward
RA FIGHTING, REALLISES HE'S IN DEPE SHIT AND MOVES BACK
SHINE ATTACKING WITH NO SIEGE
RA GG'S AS HIS UNITS MELT
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United States20661 Posts
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well this could be a good thing actually it may mean kang min will play two more games tonight he better win
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what is wrong with ra? he was so far ahead. so far.
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Ra with such poor macro that game... didn't make enough gates after securing his advantage.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Why does Ra use such old strats?
Obviously the terran will be able to defend a dt and reaver with just turret and tanks.
His cannon offense was good, he should have just expoed and then made gates from his main instead of going reaver or dt.
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Love the all caps live reporting style.
Keep it up.
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dt is not rA's style, shouldve get ht in the beginning.
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United States20661 Posts
Fucking worried.
Felagund is your sig Quenya? My Elfish deteriorated very much. D:
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ra seems to just play without thinking as much as he did before these days
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Was one of the 654 who believed..
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On January 17 2008 17:27 Last Romantic wrote:
Felagund is your sig Quenya? My Elfish deteriorated very much. D: Yah. Translated my original sig.
Would look better in Tengwar . . . but can't use pics in sigs.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GoRush vs Light now.... I have a good feeling about this.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
And usually my "feelings" are on target.
(I'm rooting for GoRush)
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51132 Posts
rofl chobo crowd had papers wrong way -.-
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holy crap i just noticed Group G is today 0_0 and some1 should be making a thread about that too
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Go Light! Don't lose or you'll have to play Sea if you make it
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On January 17 2008 17:36 Darkmole wrote: holy crap i just noticed Group G is today 0_0 and some1 should be making a thread about that too
At 6:00AM EST...
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no live reports? or game hasnt started?
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Yay, hurray to being ill.
So... what's Loki like?
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CA10824 Posts
On January 17 2008 17:38 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2008 17:36 Darkmole wrote: holy crap i just noticed Group G is today 0_0 and some1 should be making a thread about that too At 6:00AM EST... which is only a couple hours away...
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Yeah, and class but an hour after that...
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Mr.Setup in action here....
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LIGHT YOU BETTER NOT FUCKING FAIL ME Oh well at least I have new castle now.
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GoRUSH!
It's a joke!
GoRUSH
Go GoRush
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Wow super fast lair from gorush...interesting. Perhaps a muta + speed ling all in.
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slow start, economy heavy builds
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This is good for light, he should definitely read the build fairly easily
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On January 17 2008 17:47 suprabum3 wrote: slow start, economy heavy builds No...gorush is actually going for a fairly weak eco build.
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gorush better hurry w/ some colonies
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Haha gorush might be introuble his mutas shouldnt do much, light prepared well.
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go expanding again.. light needs 2make a move or it will get out of hand quick
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Light is playing well, being careful not to let his marines stray out too far, keeping a tight ball. As a result hes taken very little casualties from the mutas. Mutas slam into 6 turrets or , but they arerepeled
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yeah, but he is not doing anything to go's economy.. will be matter of time. id give game go already
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Shit light..careful... I dont hink he realizes how many mutas there really are
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lol, mutes slaughtering.. critical mass
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gorush is so far ahead in eco
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
ok I'm back.
GORUSH GOING MASS MUTAS AND LIGHT IRRADIATE SHIT
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science vessels helping greatly
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GORUSH GETS A MASSIVE IRRADIATE AND LOSING MUTAS
GoRush switched tech to lurkers, already teched to Hive
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Supra, its a much closer game than you think
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GoRush's 5 expo seems like it's safe. GoRush still has many mutas, but they're no long being used so offensively.
GoRush moving it to 5, irradiates two lurkers and waiting to attack to 5.
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Shit that was poor though..
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Mutas come to defend 5, Light backs off cuz he used up all his irradiate on lurkers.
GoRush creating lurker/hydra army from his main.
Light moving out with mnm/vessel/tanks
2 DROPSHIPS DROPS IN GORUSH'S BACK EXPO MUTA AND HYDRA COME TO DEFEND ALL MUTAS MELT IN THE DEFENSE, GORUSH LOSING ALOT UNITS DEFENDING THAT SHIZ
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solid tank push setup at gorush nat expansion..
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
LIGHT'S main army is now knocking on GoRushs' door. GoRush burrows lurkers to defned his sunken line, but Light moving in
Defiler out swarm goes up and lurkers burrow.
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5 veesel 3 tank a lot of mms @ gorushs natural should be over any second
/ah nice swarm
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multiple drops.. gorush in trouble
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GoRush ignroes the swarm and sends his mnm down to kill the nat lurers and hydra comes to defned it, Light aims the spire.
DROPSHIP ATTACKS 5 OCLOCK EXPO GORUSH LOSING SHIT
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Another dropships drops at GoRush's main
GoRuHS'S genius lurkers just go and died to mariens.
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Beautiful T play here. Despite the clutch swarm to keep gorush alive, Lights multitask is superior.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Light now has many vessles, GoRush can't really place offensive right now, busy defending shiz.
Light knocking at GoRush's front door once again.
Lurkers under swamr now ripping mnm apart....
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lmao as I say that light shows horriblemultitask..not moving his rines away from lurk under swarm
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GoRush needs to get plague soon if he wants lurker/hydra to be effective.
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LIght is playing really good but Gorush should have won this game 5 minutes ago.. I mean good damn it resarch plague!!
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
GoRush going for mass drop,
OMG 2 BUNKERS DEFEND THE DROP EASILY
Light is insane.
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Holy shit Ive never seen a drop get raped that bad before! LOLOLOL 2 bunks with stim rines humiliate gorush.
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jesus.. whole damn force of d-max'd marines
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ACTUALLY light is amazing
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
Defensive matrixed mnm going into GoRush's nat, kills all lurkers.
GoRush GG's
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Light gives a small bow towards GoRush.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
So now winners: Light vs Shine (yawn) Losers: GoRush vs Ra.
Ok I gotta go to sleep so I'll see the results tomorrow.
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51132 Posts
holy fuck that was a lot of d-matrix
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same as always in TvZ.. let terrans mass science vessels zerg players normally in dire straits
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On January 17 2008 18:03 Live2Win wrote: So now winners: Light vs Shine (yawn) Losers: GoRush vs Ra.
Ok I gotta go to sleep so I'll see the results tomorrow. Not Me, I'm watching both groups! Woo.
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On January 17 2008 18:04 suprabum3 wrote: same as always in TvZ.. let terrans mass science vessels zerg players normally in dire straits Wait, werent you the one that said the game was already over and that gorush won???
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god gorush's play just seemed so TIRED
gorush had an excellent opening build in mind but... everything just seemed behind....
he got a hive really fast and then like did nothing with it. i think the transition to hydra/lurker is great! as long as he gets defilers + lurkers first, then backtechs to hydra speed/range and the like. that sort of smooth transition allows him to have been really aggressive w/ his mutas in the midgame and delayed light's 2nd expansion for a while while securing 4 gas. again this is totally fine.
yet somehow, gorush just seemed to have a hive and like... did nothing with it for quite some time. afterwards, gorush's play just seemed exhausted. he just had no units and no organization.
pobre gorush :[
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lol, yeah bcause gorush had such large eco advantage, but his mass mutes were ultimately ineffective
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How could gorush fuck this up? I mean Light played amazing, but Gorush had 4 vs 2 base situation and his muta force just stomped Light first attack wawe..
He had hive for several minutes before even starting to build any hive structure buildings.. And once he did get those defilers up he should have resarched plague to get rid of all those sci-vessels...
Damn it Gorush, I wanted you to win
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CA10824 Posts
gj light, way to play like the "super terran" nickname they gave you lol
but seriously though, very good dropship timing + placement.
i really liked that sick marine stim into bunkers right before the drop. very nice reaction/multitasking.
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i agree with day.. gorush did everything to win, secured the advantage then stalled. it was his game to lose..
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MSL bets are like opposite day. =/ when it suppose to rain puppies, i get kittens.
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lol maybe the old pros just play like that now... nalra had a great opening too but then lost it all...
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On January 17 2008 18:06 Day[9] wrote: god gorush's play just seemed so TIRED
gorush had an excellent opening build in mind but... everything just seemed behind....
he got a hive really fast and then like did nothing with it. i think the transition to hydra/lurker is great! as long as he gets defilers + lurkers first, then backtechs to hydra speed/range and the like. that sort of smooth transition allows him to have been really aggressive w/ his mutas in the midgame and delayed light's 2nd expansion for a while while securing 4 gas. again this is totally fine.
yet somehow, gorush just seemed to have a hive and like... did nothing with it for quite some time. afterwards, gorush's play just seemed exhausted. he just had no units and no organization.
pobre gorush :[ Completely agreed. Also I wouldve liked to see some early scourge with his mutas. He couldve sacked a muta or 2 or hell even 3 to scourge a vessel or 2. Would've been huge.
He had hive for a full minute before actually getting any hive tech.
Lights Multitask was much much better than gorush's this game.
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On January 17 2008 18:08 LosingID8 wrote: gj light, way to play like the "super terran" nickname they gave you lol
but seriously though, very good dropship timing + placement.
i really liked that sick marine stim into bunkers right before the drop. very nice reaction/multitasking. Ya not to mention the foresight to have the buildings there in the first place. Nice scan use and reading.
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yup, was thinking the same thing.. he didnt make any scourge at all. to win vs terran you must constantly keep their sci-vess #s in check
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map zodiac, start at 3 and 9 o clock
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Light makes his depot right before where scv pops out to move the spawn location sightly closer to the mins. Shine makes his right below his gas. Not sure if that actually helps anything or not
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shine double CC, light goes normal rax build
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Shine with a 13ish cc! Light rax first.
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Shine makes his rax all the way out by his bridge. An incredibly bold opening. Light is late to scout. Could be bad for him. Fact done for light. 1 scv on gas. Hes starting a cc now. Shine definitely won the build order war.
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light scouting shine.. realizing hes behind
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1 vult before addon. Lets see if he can do anything with it. Probably not. Fact almost done for shine. Shine using rax + depot to semi wallin his front. Here comes light's vult.
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A bunker is up though and all light can do is take pot shots on the rax Lights expo is done and an armory is going up. Preparing just in case shine went for fact 2 star. But hes going fact star fact preparing drops.
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2 facts no starport for light. Hes definitely behind. Lets see if h can make up for it with spectacular midgame play. 2 marines and a goliath force light's rax back before it can see much. 2 tanks heading for shines wall. Theyre waiting right outside. Seige not down yet. A dropship loads up 1 scv. Hes going to take the island above his main. Really nice bo from Shine.
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light setting up outside shines nat.. shelling starts
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id be expecting a drop from shine anytime now to counter light
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Shine has siege so hes safe. He sends out his dropship towards lights2nd nat and forces Light to cancel his 2nd nat! Really great play from shine here.
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Light starts his cc in his main instead. Looking to float it to the 2nd nat later. Light up to 4 fact.
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dropship flying around aimlessly.. they've setup a "dead zone a bit outside of shines nat
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shine drops bhind lights tank line brilliantly, wipes forces
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Shines island is done. Lights is almost done. Light setting up a semi contain in the center but light has 3 dropships. He moves out to the north with them but a lone vulture spots them. Shine changes course and drops on the contain while breaking it with his main force as well! Nice move.
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ok I want to drink more beer, gogo supra
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Ouch 4 dropship drop owns lights 2nd nat. This game shouldn't be very long anyways. Poor light.
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lol, shine wipes lights 11 expansion with nice drop and siege on ledge
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Shine played this really well. Awesome choice of build order.
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shines dropship advantage become very apparent.. game slipping from light
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haha thanks for the live report guys, I don't want to bother with GOM <_>
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shine completes with a 6 or 7 dropship move at lights main
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Dooom drop in Lights main, light has nthing there, this is all but over Theres no way light can clear it with his lack of dropships.
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light at an incredible disadvantage now.. simply tried to macro for the win. dropships were the deciding factor.. light is just stalling a GG at this point. he is so far behind in minerals
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Lights decesion to forego dropships was really suprising. Its pretty hard to win straight up TvT when youre behind in bo without dropships.
Shine goes through the motions and mops up lights remaining army. GG.
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must agree with earlier post, shines bold build order won him this game
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finally, KM will be back.
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Was there a method to Light's no dropship strategy?
It seems like after the initial scout he realized he was behind and so decided to neglect the starport as if straight factories (without a push or anything) would save him somehow. The game ended up being very ugly as a result...
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ty for the reports. keep them up please!
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On January 17 2008 18:34 QibingZero wrote: Was there a method to Light's no dropship strategy?
It seems like after the initial scout he realized he was behind and so decided to neglect the starport as if straight factories (without a push or anything) would save him somehow. The game ended up being very ugly as a result...
yeah, it seems after lights late scout an realization he panicked and believed if he setup a contain and went macro was his best chance.. he really did lose the game at the BO. the map was simply to large to press his "early unit" advantage.. after build went down he was simply playing catch up. once he lost his 11 o 'clock expansion it was all but over
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Seems like Shine has improved his TvT somewhat, since last time around. He looked awful then.
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On January 17 2008 18:34 QibingZero wrote: Was there a method to Light's no dropship strategy?
It seems like after the initial scout he realized he was behind and so decided to neglect the starport as if straight factories (without a push or anything) would save him somehow. The game ended up being very ugly as a result... I think he was hoping his contain would last. This would give him some spare forces to defend his main/nat/2nd nat and let him get back in the game. However shine made a good move and quickly broke the contain with minimal loses. From there it was all but GG given the level of play.
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shine will now face mind in the ro16, but in the last msl mind already beat shine twice. It's extremely good for mind that shine won over light.
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anyone elses GOM player becoming incredibly annoying?
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On January 17 2008 18:38 datscilly wrote: shine will now face mind in the ro16, but in the last msl mind already beat shine in both of the two games they played. it's extremely good for mind that shine won.
totally agree.. shine was probably the best possible option for mind from this group.
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damit shine, screwing up my LB stats
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epic PvZ battle about to start !
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ok so im definately pulling for ra here.. he needs some sort of victory to pull from his slump
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I'm actually hoping for Gorush > Ra
I want a nice TvZ in the last match ;D
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Kang Min!
Edit: If he takes this game a finish on Katrina helps.
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does anybody else here find mind annoying, and him barely making it out of his group w/ the 32nd and 33rd ranked players bad?
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er 32nd, and 34th.. whatever. just random thought i had
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On January 17 2008 18:46 suprabum3 wrote: does anybody else here find mind annoying, and him barely making it out of his group w/ the 32nd and 33rd ranked players bad? If there's anything thats annoying it's the fact that one of ra/gorush must go right now!
NEWSCHOOL PROGAMERS PISSES ME OFF : (((((((((((
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GoRush screwed up split...gg
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On January 17 2008 18:46 suprabum3 wrote: does anybody else here find mind annoying, and him barely making it out of his group w/ the 32nd and 33rd ranked players bad? no, a champ wins wen it matters. if u go undefeated up to the finals and lose ur 2nd place not that its bad. but if u barely slip by to the finals and won it, you're 1st!
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gorush scouts counterclockwise.. finds ra fairly quickly
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ra goes for fast expand.. gorush does a 12 or 13 hatch/pool
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ra's nexus and gateway finish about sametime
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Ra@ 6 Zodiac Gorush@ 9
Ra opening with a standard Forge into FE Gorush went for a 12 hatch himself
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Ra you better win this. Or I'll have LR stalk you.
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a quick Lair from gorush, interesting :O
EDIT: Nvm missed the 3rd exp :p
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gorush starts his 3rd hatch, as ra begins to setup a defense around his nat expansion
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Zeal heading out to harass...2 zealots. Lol funny probes criss crossing. 2 zeals at the zerg 2n nat. They leave before the lings arrive.
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Ra going sair AND fast +1. Nice build imo. A goon takes out a overlord!
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Cors is out now, taking down one overlord
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Gorush went for quick hydras, trying to break Ra's defense at the expo
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Ra looks like he's in trouble, forge going down, Ra not able to build any cannons!
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rush making move with lings/hydras at kangs nat expansion.. take out his forge and gateway
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hydras beginning to mass for gorush
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Sair firing at an ovie. Takes it out then runs from hydras. Gorush semi all in with slow hydra + speedling! Speed hydra now, 2 sairs take out a an overlord. The hydras take down a forge and a gateway. Ra has 5 cannons up now. Shold be safe for now. I dont think Ra got his +1 done though. Gorush with a scary amount of hydras at this point. Really critical point for Ra! This is tense!
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6 or 7 cannons and force of zealots/few goons stop gorush
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gorush continuing to press w/ hydra
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Speed lots are done Ra is safe! But gorush is morphing lurkers!
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lol gorush was probably like WTF i just took the forge out now he's making cannons again
edit: dropp!!~~
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Ra managed to fend off the Hydra attacks, has a templar archives up now and gotten a forge to be able to add more cannons.
Gorush pulls back and starts to morph lurkers outside Ra's base, seems like Gorush is gonna set up a contain just outside Ra
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ra expending exorbitant amount of mineral making zealots/cannons for nat defense
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WRONG gorush goes for a qucikk hydra/lurk drop OMG this might be GG
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huge lurker/hydra drop at ra's main.. he's in big trouble
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Ra has 14 or so speed zs. Gorush has 3 base but very low drone count! DROPS!!!! Lurkers firing upon unprotected gateways. NO robo out yet. Ra is in a LOT of dtrouble as gorush continues to load ovies and move units into the main.
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few high temps do their best.. lurkers now laying waste to ra's gates.. gorush also setting more hyrdra/lurkers up in lords outside ra's nat
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No Observes for Ra, Lurkers tearing up gateways in his main, this is looking bad for Ra.
Meanwhile, Gorush has reinforcements coming in another drop, Robo isn't even up yet for Ra
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What happened to you rA...
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All the gateways down now. Poor ra. Really nice strat from Gorush.
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lurkers and hydra pouring into ra's main from more lords.. take out starport more gateways
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lol he got raped... poor rA D:
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ra throwing up cannons for an honorable, albeit helpless defense
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Ras main is completely down, GG. Poor poor Ra.
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Nal_ra taps out, YAY for me, I wanted a TvZ in the last game :p
I'm a little sad to see Ra lose yet again though :/
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ok. I'll see you next msl.
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THIS MSL FUCKING SUCKS. Just give it to some faggot neo gen already.
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gg, poor ra.. was pulling for him. owell gorush gets revenge in last game
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Argh... missed the first two games, which sounded a LOT more exciting than these last two, that's for sure. Should have slept instead!
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wow, the streak of the seeds continues...
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On January 17 2008 18:59 anch wrote: THIS MSL FUCKING SUCKS. Just give it to some faggot neo gen already. Wow really hardcore Ra fan I guess. Just because Ra is out doesn't mean this MSL sucks Although my heart really wanted Ra to advance I knew in my head it was fairly unlikely.
And GoRush is just as Oldschool as Ra...so..don't really get where you're going with this.
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United States20661 Posts
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United States20661 Posts
well no one seed
but like
HOLY SHIT
this is really really sad
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Go Nada!! xD
edit: besto pisha, sheefode island!
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On January 17 2008 19:01 Last Romantic wrote: well no one seed
but like
HOLY SHIT
this is really really sad I think it would be really cool if Mind repeated though
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Now now guys, lets not forget our champion :D
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I don't like this anymore
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ugh.. mind is so annoying
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lol at every seed except mind going 0-2
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id be much happier if light won.. he might not even advance tho.. hopefully gorush brings a different strat
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mind is cursing his enemies >
but next up is free, on loki II vs a terran, and then on katrina. It would be Really sad if free lost too, but that seems very unlikely.
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in other news jaedong hasnt lost since game 1 of the OSL finals to stork (he should have won that game anyway).. do u think at Shinhan Bank Proleague 2007 Round 2 Playoffs--they will pit him against bisu again?
im retardid.. lol, jaedong is on lecaf
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anyway he is still on a tear of late.. when will this kid lose
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Poor Ra... still waiting for him to recapture his former glory. Seems that is the case for most of the old players these days... Savior, Nada, Ra, Xellos, etc... *sigh*
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yeah.. xellos got completly destroyed by bisu on katrina.. although it is a very friendly toss vs terran map-- carriers are simply 2much
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nada is playing the best of the old star of late.. ithink he has just had some tough defeats lately.. he will eventually earn another title i feel
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I doubt Free will get 0-2, his form has been consistent and great of late, if im not wrong, Free and Kwanro are the last of the seeds ?
Im guessing Mind and Free will be the only 2 seeds to enter Ro16, GOGO MIND !
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Mmmm watched that Xellos Bisu game, at least he played well. Unlike some of the shockers we've seen other old favourite players pull recently..
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damnit light is gonna win again.. i got a bad feeling about this
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On January 17 2008 19:07 Alethios wrote: Poor Ra... still waiting for him to recapture his former glory. Seems that is the case for most of the old players these days... Savior, Nada, Ra, Xellos, etc... *sigh*
Counting in Savior among Nada, Ra and Xellos is ridicoulus. Savior is still considered new-school compared to those 3
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one hell of a MSL Suvivor league after this tourney.
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yeah.. savior even played well against jaedong.. jaedong is just a buzzsaw now
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On January 17 2008 19:11 anch wrote: one hell of a MSL Suvivor league after this tourney.
lol, agreed
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go light! get me my 4/4 liquibet and advance! sorry I don't give a crap about GoRush
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True enough, but it's easy to put savior in with players who used to be amazing.
Gorush white 12 Light Orange 9
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Aight game starting!
Map: Katrina
Gorush @ 12
Light @ 9
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a 13 cc from Light would be awesome
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Gorush is 0-4 vs Light, will he be able to take his first win?
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Light opens up with a standard supply > barrack build so far
Gorush opts for the regular 12 hatch at his expo.
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standard 12 hatch expand.. light blocking off w/ supply/rax
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please forward hat + sunken at this faggot.
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Overlord scouts correct direction. Light sealing door with supply and rax. Gorush expands to nat.
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Ok here we go. Map is Katrina, Gorush is at 12 and has 12 hatched. Light is at 9 and has gone rax/depot with a semi wall in. He should most certainly be going 1 rax cc.
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On January 17 2008 19:14 anch wrote: please forward hat + sunken at this faggot. What the fuck is with you?
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light sets up 2nd Cc in bottom at 7 o clock at sametime gorush plants 3rd hatch
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And GOMPlayer decides to go nuts in the game i've been looking forward to
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dead overlord, light won looking at his posture
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Wow awesome marine positioning takes down gorushs scouting ovie! Great play.
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gorush carelessly loses ovie..
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overlod lol, omg that was so bad for gorush
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Light fully walled in and is now destroying the neutral building. He has 2 rax/gas and acad going up.
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light pumping from 2 rax as academy finishes
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lair should b finished any second now
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Light moving out with rines only, GOrush hasnt got any sunkens up :O
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YaI really don't see Gorush being able to win this. A LOT of marines comming towards go rush and he has NO sunkens up...
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control group of marines and few medics set.. take out group lings
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Hmmm Gorush has speedlings now thouhg. A sunk going up and spire starting. My bad he should be ok...should be.
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rush has 2lairs up.. must be going for early drop..
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lol rape coming up :X
edit: aw he retreated, spire up for gorush
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gorush is probably fucked, just like fbh > savior.
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LIGHT IS AUTO CAPSLOCK FOR COOL
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mnm/firebat harass doing well.. took out another ovie
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rush expands again at 2 oclock
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Ohh! Another overlord goes down as light snipes it just outside range of sunk. Hatch going up at the top right corner. Light will spot it with a lone marine. Mutas now have to go ALL the way over there and take out the one marine. Good for light. Gives him extra time to prepare vs muta harass.
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Lol look at that crappy muta harrass joking ^^
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Ouch.. gorush looking sloppy as he loses a muta before getting a kill. WOW horrible mismicro as gorush loses 2 mutas.
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science fac going down.. this c ould get bad quick
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Light is doing a good job keeping the mutas out of his base, by constantly treathing the main of gorush with a seemingly large M&M force.
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I really don't see gorush winning this. Another 2 mutas go down. A third. And hes only killed 3-4 marines. 5 or so lurks are morphing though. But will he be able to save his 2nd nat? DOubt it
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these guys are just dancing marines and mutes around.. no big battles or moves yet
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On January 17 2008 19:18 suprabum3 wrote: rush has 2lairs up.. must be going for early drop.. No he doesnt?
Light snipes a lurk.
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haha yeah, once those vessels go up it's gonna be pretty painful for GoRush :X
edit: k he need filers, like now or gg
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lol wtf. Light making 2 ccs at the same time. Once is forced to cancel. Mnm micro get 2 lurks that were unsupported.
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Gosu marine spread gets 2 more. Light looking VERY solid this game. Gorush, not so much
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light keeps trying 2expand.. gorush keeping him in check with mutes
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finally gets his expansion up with control group mnm for defense
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Light with vessel out as well as 2 tanks. FPV of Light confirms that he is a gosu mofo FPV confirms that he isnt so bad either
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few groups of mnm's with tank support for light now.. he is beginning to build a sci-vess fleet i feel
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light now pushing on gorush's main w/ mnm's tanks, and couple sci-vess
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Wow...Light Rizapes Gorushs force. As all his lurks/scourge melt to a medium sized mixed terran force. Light with nice timing pressuring right before defilirs. Reenforcements moving out to to the zerg 2nd/3rd nat.
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timely swarm keeps push at bay.. buys rush sometime
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Light is completly dominating the game, Gorush hasn't even been let out of his main for one second. A lot of Lurkers are down, Light sitting outside Gorush main and taking down sunks, defilers up though. But Light has a total of 4 incomes (!) and it's looking bad for Gorush
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light seems 2spread on the map.. game will become a slow squeeze for gorush unless he makes a few miraculous plays here quickly
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Defiliers are out and get swarms up but die to irradiate. Light looks to be crusing this game. We will see if Gorush can keep his expos alive . Doesnt look like it. The 3rd nat isdown. And his maine force is rolling Gorushs main. Gorush GGS.
Honestly Gorush played this really bad. Light dominated from start to finish.
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2/4. Meh
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Light just plowed right through Gorush's main, and Gorush taps out!
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dumbshit gorush, shouldve lose to nal_ra. nal_ra beats light easily.
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Ra and Rush
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Gorush's bane is Light. I've never seen Gorush win light before i think ?
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On January 17 2008 19:27 Alethios wrote: gg...
0/4 liquibet >.< At least you have love for old school players
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i think ra would've given much better game as well.. especially on katrina
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2/4, Kang Min I lost faith in you. Returning to good old rule - if there are T - vote for them. EDIT: wtf, actually I gained 10+ spots on LB!
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gorush's TvZ looked very weak today.. his late game is nowhere near as controlled/intimidating as savior or jaedongs
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4/4... i feel dirty, like i just took liquibet points from the devil. voting exactly the opposite of my heart.
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0/4? Ra and GoRush are both past their expiration date. Admittingly, Shine isn't very good, but you should at least be able to get Light right.
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Oh god... what is this song??? Rock the Cashbah brutally murdered
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his defiler play is simply not where it needs to be to compete w/ elite terran players at the later stages..
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On January 17 2008 19:27 anch wrote: dumbshit gorush, shouldve lose to nal_ra. nal_ra beats light easily. o rly?
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summary of the game from the reports: - light goes 1 rax CC, gorush goes standard 12 hatch - gorush sends his scouting OL into marines - gorush loses another OL to marines - gorush makes some lings - gorush sends lings into marines, loses them - gorush techs to mutas - gorush sends 2 mutas into m&m - gorush makes more mutas - gorush sends another 2/3 mutas into m&m - gorush goes lurkers - gorush sends lurkers into m&m, loses 4-5 to m&m micro - gorush regroups his force - gorush attempts to flank, gets owned - late defilers, GG
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On January 17 2008 19:30 suprabum3 wrote: his defiler play is simply not where it needs to be to compete w/ elite terran players at the later stages.. Umm no It had nothing to do with defilier play. Once his defiliers were out , lights advantage was so big that the game was essentially over. Gorush simply did HORRIBLY with his mutas. As well as wasting lings and overlords in the early game. His early game play set him up for a horrible midgame.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
what a depressing group outcome
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On January 17 2008 19:32 PoP wrote: summary of the game from the reports: - light goes 1 rax CC, gorush goes standard 12 hatch - gorush sends his scouting OL into marines - gorush loses another OL to marines - gorush makes some lings - gorush sends lings into marines, loses them - gorush techs to mutas - gorush sends 2 mutas into m&m - gorush makes more mutas - gorush sends another 2/3 mutas into m&m - gorush goes lurkers - gorush sends lurkers into m&m, loses 4-5 to m&m micro - gorush regroups his force - gorush attempts to flank, gets owned - late defilers, GG Pretty much yea Just sloppy play all around from start to finish from gorush. Credit to light though. He was the catalist for the mistakes.
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1/4
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On January 17 2008 19:32 Carnac wrote: what a depressing group outcome 0/4 ?
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Honestly at the pro level you simply CANNOT afford to lose your first ovie. Its not acceptable.
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Its all over? So are they just airing a repeat now?
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HonestTea
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On January 17 2008 19:32 PoP wrote: summary of the game from the reports: - light goes 1 rax CC, gorush goes standard 12 hatch - gorush sends his scouting OL into marines - gorush loses another OL to marines - gorush makes some lings - gorush sends lings into marines, loses them - gorush techs to mutas - gorush sends 2 mutas into m&m - gorush makes more mutas - gorush sends another 2/3 mutas into m&m - gorush goes lurkers - gorush sends lurkers into m&m, loses 4-5 to m&m micro - gorush regroups his force - gorush attempts to flank, gets owned - late defilers, GG LOL that sums it up pretty well nite
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On January 17 2008 19:32 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2008 19:30 suprabum3 wrote: his defiler play is simply not where it needs to be to compete w/ elite terran players at the later stages.. Umm no It had nothing to do with defilier play. Once his defiliers were out , lights advantage was so big that the game was essentially over. Gorush simply did HORRIBLY with his mutas. As well as wasting lings and overlords in the early game. His early game play set him up for a horrible midgame.
no not what im saying.. im saying his speed to defiler is slow.. he stalls out in early/midgame strats without teching and bringing defilers out when he should. he expects his early/midgame to win the games, yet good terran players will defend and hang around. he must realize where the game is moving and adjust his style accordingly. his game sense was very poor..
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On January 17 2008 19:35 Amnesty wrote: Its all over? So are they just airing a repeat now?
yeah, but new group in 30 minutes.
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Anyone feel like making the Group G post?
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im getting kind of tired.. its going on 6am here. i like flash and oov though.. i will probably hang around for at least the first game
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Anyone who would keep it updated is a hero. Unless they live somewhere where it's eventide
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 17 2008 19:34 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:0/4 ? depressing aside from my liquibet just not the players i wanna see play
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On January 17 2008 19:40 Carnac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2008 19:34 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On January 17 2008 19:32 Carnac wrote: what a depressing group outcome 0/4 ? depressing aside from my liquibet just not the players i wanna see play
agreed.. i would have just preferred if a protoss or zerg made it to keep the matchups interesting.. to many damn terrans
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flah and oov could feasably move from today also.. 4 terrans! ugh.. boring
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
fuck
SO SAD
RIP TO THE OLD SCHOOL
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lol pedogrin is out :/ what a useless opening hahah edit: maybe it's Mind smirking at all the loser's getting owned? xD
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is awesome32244 Posts
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Nal_ra....
Not exactly my favorite MSL.
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i hate this. fuck. my liquidbet sucks..
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nvmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm me chobo TT
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Uh... GoRush is not Shine or Light, and even if he hadn't been eliminated I imagine Sea could take him given how terrible he's been lately. It'll be Light vs Sea (bahhh).
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I thought it was Light v Mind ?
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Hungary11232 Posts
On January 18 2008 07:32 Diggity wrote: I thought it was Light v Mind ?
Shine (1st group F) vs. Mind (2nd group A) Sea (1st group A) vs. Light (2nd group F)
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Oh damnit I read the >>> <<<'s wrong, excuse my retardedness
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apparently, rAs current 8 game losing streak is the worse in his career :/
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I started this thread because it wasn't there and my rA fanboyism obligated me...
But I don't understand the leagues all that well.
Will rA just not play until he does well in off-line qualifiers? Or until the next Proleague? Such a gay!
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Man, fuck Terrans. Wtf. I just need Jaedong or a Protoss to win this. Either way.
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rA's hitting rock bottom..
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Where are the vods of game 4 and 5??
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On January 21 2008 02:25 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Where are the vods of game 4 and 5??
Here
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