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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-11-27 11:49:26
November 27 2023 11:47 GMT
#1
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Bombastic StarLeague Season 17
ProLeague: Grand Final
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague/17




Sunday 18:30 CET ()
Grand Finals - bo9
cn Mihu vs ru Dewalt

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RO8 Map Picks
All vetoes and map picks need to be made before the matches. The player with the higher ladder stage ranking can decide if they want to veto first or second. The order for vetoes is
ABAB ABC for BO3 and AB ABABC for BO5.

Example of vetoes for the BO5 match:
player A vetoes a map
player B vetoes a map
player A picks the first map
player B picks the second map
player A picks the third map
player B picks the fourth map
the remaining map will be played in the decider match
Once all vetoes and mappicks are done you can start the matches.

Grand Finals
After picking the first 7 maps, each player picks one map (as repeat) to play the 8th and 9th match on.


Choosing second / third map rules: winner bans one map, loser chooses map from remaining maps in the map pool (no repeats).


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BROADCAST
PRODUCTION & OBSERVER
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ZZZero

us OFFICIAL BROADCAST us
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CASTERS
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Razz

SPANISH BROADCAST
OliPatrick & YuSC

RUSSIAN BROADCAST
Dewalt

RESTREAMING or STREAMING the EVENT without permission is NOT ALLOWED, our goal is to maximize viewers on the official BSL channels, so we will try to attract some sponsors.



We are starting with next season of BSL! Every weekend 18:30 CEST! Huge thanks for all the donators and Patreons, who supported BSL17 Goal. Thanks to you we will have yet another great season of BSL!

P.S. We are only 40% in with the BSL Season 18 Goal - will it be the last stream of BSL ? I hope that we will show StarCraft Power again and meet the goal to come back with another epic season

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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
November 28 2023 11:05 GMT
#2
Time to vendetta! Dewalt Fightning!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4250 Posts
November 28 2023 19:44 GMT
#3
Epic.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria491 Posts
November 29 2023 20:17 GMT
#4
I may have gotten a few wrong, but at least i have the finalists right. Nothing more to add to the title of my prediction bracket. It is time!
music is the best thing in the world
JXSAZergling
Profile Joined July 2012
China31 Posts
December 01 2023 02:43 GMT
#5
Dewalt has won too many runner ups, please continue to maintain this excellent tradition.

Mihu fighting!!!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1599 Posts
December 02 2023 20:59 GMT
#6
Bump!

It's tomorrow!
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jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China194 Posts
December 03 2023 19:45 GMT
#7
The most terrible thing about Mihu is his defense, toughness and stability. After many Chinese players lost to him in the final many times, they became psychologically accustomed to losing to him, which made it more difficult to win him in the final.
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1599 Posts
December 03 2023 20:10 GMT
#8
📣 We are still missing $4885 to meet the BSL18 Goal. Thus why, we are looking for a sponsor, partner or big donator who will cover the missing part and help us continue with the BSL dream. Tonight we had ~5000 live viewers at English, Spanish and Chinese language streams - not bad for a 25 year old game. We can offer logo placement during all the games of Pro and Gosu Leagues (100 hours of content), shoutouts on social medias, intro involvement as well as gratitude from entire StarCraft scene for keeping their favorite tournament alive.

Here you can donate to the goal: https://streamelements.com/zzzeropl/tip
Please share this info.
https://www.patreon.com/Bombastic || https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague || https://linktr.ee/bombastic
JXSAZergling
Profile Joined July 2012
China31 Posts
December 04 2023 00:39 GMT
#9
On December 04 2023 05:10 ZZZero.O wrote:
📣 We are still missing $4885 to meet the BSL18 Goal. Thus why, we are looking for a sponsor, partner or big donator who will cover the missing part and help us continue with the BSL dream. Tonight we had ~5000 live viewers at English, Spanish and Chinese language streams - not bad for a 25 year old game. We can offer logo placement during all the games of Pro and Gosu Leagues (100 hours of content), shoutouts on social medias, intro involvement as well as gratitude from entire StarCraft scene for keeping their favorite tournament alive.

Here you can donate to the goal: https://streamelements.com/zzzeropl/tip
Please share this info.


You should contact Sanpao to help you find sponsors in China
uzfgdfrtdfsdf
Profile Joined December 2023
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-04 09:49:58
December 04 2023 09:17 GMT
#10
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5440 Posts
December 04 2023 11:10 GMT
#11
I didn't have time to watch live, but no winner interview?
Is that because of timezones or? I imagine there is someone in the community that can speak both Chinese and English.

Anyway, looking forward to BSL Thailand!
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3147 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-04 14:32:24
December 04 2023 14:30 GMT
#12
I wonder why the target for BSL has to be $10k. Wasn't it used to be $5k? Which is more realistic. And it's not like players won't join BSL because the prize pool is halved. It has been quite apparent for some seasons now that you would never get $10k from viewers donations and the majority of the money came from 2 or 3 guys with big pockets but for sure they can't almost single-handedly fund every BSL forever.

And setting the target too high may also discourage donations from some as well as they may think something like "if I donate another $10 we will still be way off the target anyway so why wastes my money?"

earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
December 04 2023 16:03 GMT
#13
On December 04 2023 18:17 uzfgdfrtdfsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2023 05:10 ZZZero.O wrote:
📣 We are still missing $4885 to meet the BSL18 Goal. Thus why, we are looking for a sponsor, partner or big donator who will cover the missing part and help us continue with the BSL dream. Tonight we had ~5000 live viewers at English, Spanish and Chinese language streams - not bad for a 25 year old game. We can offer logo placement during all the games of Pro and Gosu Leagues (100 hours of content), shoutouts on social medias, intro involvement as well as gratitude from entire StarCraft scene for keeping their favorite tournament alive.

Here you can donate to the goal: https://streamelements.com/zzzeropl/tip
Please share this info.

The Chinese stream on Trovo had 4000 viewer? The entire platform has like ~10000 viewer. You had like 700 Viewer, the Spanish Stream 500(?). You should probably mention that. You would need like 3 different sponsor, i highly doubt that this viewership attract a sponsor. Especially since your non-final stream attracts like 300-500~ viewer. The Stats


Wow. Impressive! China community seems huge. On which channel on trovo was it srreamed?
uzfgdfrtdfsdf
Profile Joined December 2023
2 Posts
December 04 2023 16:33 GMT
#14
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4250 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-04 19:18:25
December 04 2023 19:15 GMT
#15
On December 04 2023 23:30 TMNT wrote:
I wonder why the target for BSL has to be $10k. Wasn't it used to be $5k? Which is more realistic. And it's not like players won't join BSL because the prize pool is halved. It has been quite apparent for some seasons now that you would never get $10k from viewers donations and the majority of the money came from 2 or 3 guys with big pockets but for sure they can't almost single-handedly fund every BSL forever.

And setting the target too high may also discourage donations from some as well as they may think something like "if I donate another $10 we will still be way off the target anyway so why wastes my money?"


My thoughts exactly. Even the 5500 mark seems feasible.

5000$ for ProLeague / 250$ for Gosu (125/75/25/25) / 250$ for five ladder tours (50$ each) seems great to me.

1st - 2000$
2nd - 1200$
3rd - 800$
4th - 400$
5th to 8th - 100$ each
9th to 12th - 50$ each

Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks for another season. Big congratz to the winner and here's a toast for even more future BSLs

Brood War forever!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3147 Posts
December 04 2023 20:19 GMT
#16
On December 05 2023 04:15 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2023 23:30 TMNT wrote:
I wonder why the target for BSL has to be $10k. Wasn't it used to be $5k? Which is more realistic. And it's not like players won't join BSL because the prize pool is halved. It has been quite apparent for some seasons now that you would never get $10k from viewers donations and the majority of the money came from 2 or 3 guys with big pockets but for sure they can't almost single-handedly fund every BSL forever.

And setting the target too high may also discourage donations from some as well as they may think something like "if I donate another $10 we will still be way off the target anyway so why wastes my money?"


My thoughts exactly. Even the 5500 mark seems feasible.

5000$ for ProLeague / 250$ for Gosu (125/75/25/25) / 250$ for five ladder tours (50$ each) seems great to me.

1st - 2000$
2nd - 1200$
3rd - 800$
4th - 400$
5th to 8th - 100$ each
9th to 12th - 50$ each

Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks for another season. Big congratz to the winner and here's a toast for even more future BSLs

Brood War forever!

A chunk of the money has to be spent on production and casters as well, not just prize pool. And that's after assuming all the organizers work for free. So the prize has to be even lower.

But I think apart from some Chinese players, all BSL players have a job and none of them counts on prize/streaming money to live. No prize money would be dull but the prize doesn't need to be high. Just gather as much as the community can possibly give.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4250 Posts
December 04 2023 21:18 GMT
#17
On December 05 2023 05:19 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2023 04:15 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On December 04 2023 23:30 TMNT wrote:
I wonder why the target for BSL has to be $10k. Wasn't it used to be $5k? Which is more realistic. And it's not like players won't join BSL because the prize pool is halved. It has been quite apparent for some seasons now that you would never get $10k from viewers donations and the majority of the money came from 2 or 3 guys with big pockets but for sure they can't almost single-handedly fund every BSL forever.

And setting the target too high may also discourage donations from some as well as they may think something like "if I donate another $10 we will still be way off the target anyway so why wastes my money?"


My thoughts exactly. Even the 5500 mark seems feasible.

5000$ for ProLeague / 250$ for Gosu (125/75/25/25) / 250$ for five ladder tours (50$ each) seems great to me.

1st - 2000$
2nd - 1200$
3rd - 800$
4th - 400$
5th to 8th - 100$ each
9th to 12th - 50$ each

Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks for another season. Big congratz to the winner and here's a toast for even more future BSLs

Brood War forever!

A chunk of the money has to be spent on production and casters as well, not just prize pool. And that's after assuming all the organizers work for free. So the prize has to be even lower.

But I think apart from some Chinese players, all BSL players have a job and none of them counts on prize/streaming money to live. No prize money would be dull but the prize doesn't need to be high. Just gather as much as the community can possibly give.

Good points. You're right I guess.
jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-05 11:35:39
December 05 2023 00:27 GMT
#18
On December 05 2023 01:33 uzfgdfrtdfsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2023 01:03 earob84 wrote:
On December 04 2023 18:17 uzfgdfrtdfsdf wrote:
On December 04 2023 05:10 ZZZero.O wrote:
📣 We are still missing $4885 to meet the BSL18 Goal. Thus why, we are looking for a sponsor, partner or big donator who will cover the missing part and help us continue with the BSL dream. Tonight we had ~5000 live viewers at English, Spanish and Chinese language streams - not bad for a 25 year old game. We can offer logo placement during all the games of Pro and Gosu Leagues (100 hours of content), shoutouts on social medias, intro involvement as well as gratitude from entire StarCraft scene for keeping their favorite tournament alive.

Here you can donate to the goal: https://streamelements.com/zzzeropl/tip
Please share this info.

The Chinese stream on Trovo had 4000 viewer? The entire platform has like ~10000 viewer. You had like 700 Viewer, the Spanish Stream 500(?). You should probably mention that. You would need like 3 different sponsor, i highly doubt that this viewership attract a sponsor. Especially since your non-final stream attracts like 300-500~ viewer. The Stats


Wow. Impressive! China community seems huge. On which channel on trovo was it srreamed?

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Almost every major Chinese StarCraft streams had a broadcast that day 1:30am China time
CoachZhu : 2000 viewers
LoveTT : 1000 viewers
WoNiu : 500 viewers
XiaoXiaoMa : 300 viewers
Fj : 200 viewers
If the day is between 8 p.m. and 12 p.m. China time, the number will double or even higher.

231204 BSL决赛:迷糊 vs Dewalt BO9 vod playback volume : 2732
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hC4y197Y2
ghftztrgfh
Profile Joined December 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-12-05 09:13:33
December 05 2023 09:01 GMT
#19
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jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China194 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-12-05 11:35:07
December 05 2023 10:24 GMT
#20
On December 05 2023 18:01 ghftztrgfh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2023 09:27 jindi5 wrote:
On December 05 2023 01:33 uzfgdfrtdfsdf wrote:
On December 05 2023 01:03 earob84 wrote:
On December 04 2023 18:17 uzfgdfrtdfsdf wrote:
On December 04 2023 05:10 ZZZero.O wrote:
📣 We are still missing $4885 to meet the BSL18 Goal. Thus why, we are looking for a sponsor, partner or big donator who will cover the missing part and help us continue with the BSL dream. Tonight we had ~5000 live viewers at English, Spanish and Chinese language streams - not bad for a 25 year old game. We can offer logo placement during all the games of Pro and Gosu Leagues (100 hours of content), shoutouts on social medias, intro involvement as well as gratitude from entire StarCraft scene for keeping their favorite tournament alive.

Here you can donate to the goal: https://streamelements.com/zzzeropl/tip
Please share this info.

The Chinese stream on Trovo had 4000 viewer? The entire platform has like ~10000 viewer. You had like 700 Viewer, the Spanish Stream 500(?). You should probably mention that. You would need like 3 different sponsor, i highly doubt that this viewership attract a sponsor. Especially since your non-final stream attracts like 300-500~ viewer. The Stats


Wow. Impressive! China community seems huge. On which channel on trovo was it srreamed?

I was wrong, it wasnt streamed on Trovo, that was just another Spanish stream. Doing a little bit of research, it might have been streamed on https://www.huya.com/617694. I just cant find any viewer numbers, so it has to be:"Trust me Bro".

But 4k for chinese wouldnt be a whole lot. There are alot of them


Almost every major Chinese StarCraft streams had a broadcast that day 1:30am China time
CoachZhu : 2000 viewers
LoveTT : 1000 viewers
WoNiu : 500 viewers
XiaoXiaoMa : 300 viewers
Fj : 200 viewers
If the day is between 8 p.m. and 12 p.m. China time, the number will double or even higher.

231204 BSL决赛:迷糊 vs Dewalt BO9 vod playback volume : 2732
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hC4y197Y2

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What he counted was probably the more important part of that week, when there were more than 10 sponsored Show Match games in China every day.
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