(and that's speaking as someone who isn't exactly Rus_Brain's biggest fan, to say the least, but what's right is right, and that's that)
I promise I don't have a KGB agent behind me with a gun to my head. This is totally my own opinion.
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Norway598 Posts
(and that's speaking as someone who isn't exactly Rus_Brain's biggest fan, to say the least, but what's right is right, and that's that) I promise I don't have a KGB agent behind me with a gun to my head. This is totally my own opinion. | ||
Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2111 Posts
WHERE? | ||
vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
I'm not a communist but that's pretty funny | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
That being said, commemorating the end of ww2 with a replay pack IS a bit cringy. Props for the initiative, not thrilled with the execution from a PR point of view. | ||
Jealous
9968 Posts
On April 14 2021 23:17 TaardadAiel wrote: The end of ww2 in Europe is a good thing worthy of celebration. Such a holiday doesn't have a nationality imo. For various political reasons there's V-day in Europe (for the western allies) and Victory Day (for the USSR and later eastern bloc countries), I personally celebrate both even as I'm really, really pissed at what happened to my home country after becoming a part of the soviet sphere of influence. It happened before the end of the war anyway and less people dying on the battlefronts is a good thing. That being said, commemorating the end of ww2 with a replay pack IS a bit cringy. Props for the initiative, not thrilled with the execution from a PR point of view. oof | ||
GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
On April 14 2021 23:17 TaardadAiel wrote: The end of ww2 in Europe is a good thing worthy of celebration. Such a holiday doesn't have a nationality imo. For various political reasons there's V-day in Europe (for the western allies) and Victory Day (for the USSR and later eastern bloc countries), I personally celebrate both even as I'm really, really pissed at what happened to my home country after becoming a part of the soviet sphere of influence. It happened before the end of the war anyway and less people dying on the battlefronts is a good thing. That being said, commemorating the end of ww2 with a replay pack IS a bit cringy. Props for the initiative, not thrilled with the execution from a PR point of view. Well, it got your attention, speaking from a PR point of view. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
Tens of millions died during a conflict that was basically hell on earth and we commemorate it with a replay pack for a video game. It's a bit silly. And I don't want to get into ANY ideological or political discussions, not on this part of the forum. The reason I stated my view on the holiday is to stress that I don't find the occasion offensive as some others might, I just fail to see any connection and basically any reason to link the holiday to a rep pack. Please don't jump on people that disagree with somebody's decision, this is the way of the world - you decide to do something for an audience and a part of the audience might dislike it. On April 15 2021 00:11 GeckoXp wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2021 23:17 TaardadAiel wrote: The end of ww2 in Europe is a good thing worthy of celebration. Such a holiday doesn't have a nationality imo. For various political reasons there's V-day in Europe (for the western allies) and Victory Day (for the USSR and later eastern bloc countries), I personally celebrate both even as I'm really, really pissed at what happened to my home country after becoming a part of the soviet sphere of influence. It happened before the end of the war anyway and less people dying on the battlefronts is a good thing. That being said, commemorating the end of ww2 with a replay pack IS a bit cringy. Props for the initiative, not thrilled with the execution from a PR point of view. Well, it got your attention, speaking from a PR point of view. Don't confuse marketing with PR. | ||
LfunkGG
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LfunkGG
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
ЗА РОДИНУ! And, ofc, thanks for the reps 😁 | ||
vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On April 13 2021 00:59 Rus_Brain wrote: Well, it wasn't, but I pretty much doubt it is of any value arguing with an overeducated guy who believes Gagarin was the first man on the moon This one is good, bro. This one is good The Stalin regime was what it was, the gulag existed. No amount of memes will change that. Funny memes though. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
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IMJIRAIYA
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Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
On April 15 2021 02:03 vOdToasT wrote: We are all "what we are" The Stalin regime was what it was, the gulag existed. First, labor encampments still exist nowadays, remarkably even in those regions where human rights are advocated. Which is, of course, not an excuse for Stalin, but quite a reasonable doubt for us prior to rating anyone, if we want to become better. Otherwise nothing will change if we are ready to blame someone for what has not changed in our time. Second, mixing Nazi and Soviet ways is nothing more but obscuring crucial differences – such as the distinction between camps used in a deliberate policy of extermination, and those where people die through neglect. | ||
LfunkGG
78 Posts
On April 15 2021 15:15 Rus_Brain wrote: Show nested quote + We are all "what we are" On April 15 2021 02:03 vOdToasT wrote: The Stalin regime was what it was, the gulag existed. First, labor encampments still exist nowadays, remarkably even in those regions where human rights are advocated. Which is, of course, not an excuse for Stalin, but quite a reasonable doubt for us prior to rating anyone, if we want to become better. Otherwise nothing will change if we are ready to blame someone for what has not changed in our time. Second, mixing Nazi and Soviet ways is nothing more but obscuring crucial differences – such as the distinction between camps used in a deliberate policy of extermination, and those where people die through neglect. yeah tell this to the Estonians who were killed and tortured by soviets for years. At least Nazis had shame for what they did, Russians have no shame, they haven't even paid for their war crimes. and bragging about their murderous history. | ||
jovoktom
Hungary13 Posts
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oxKnu
1123 Posts
Shame on you. | ||
Rus_Brain
Russian Federation1888 Posts
On April 15 2021 16:52 LfunkGG wrote: This is unproved blame. Add "millions may not be wrong" for sufficient credibility yeah tell this to the Estonians who were killed and tortured by soviets for years. At least Nazis had shame for what they did, Russians have no shame, they haven't even paid for their war crimes. and bragging about their murderous history. I did not have a chance to live in USSR long (neither did you according to your birthdate), but friends and relatives of mine who are one generation older all as one refer to visiting Pribaltic states as one of the most desired vacations for Soviet citizen. Read me correctly. In no place here I told that everything was awesome in old days, I'm just pointing out that what you write here is a deliberate obscuring. | ||
LfunkGG
78 Posts
On April 15 2021 19:51 Rus_Brain wrote: Show nested quote + This is unproved blame. Add "millions may not be wrong" for sufficient credibility On April 15 2021 16:52 LfunkGG wrote: yeah tell this to the Estonians who were killed and tortured by soviets for years. At least Nazis had shame for what they did, Russians have no shame, they haven't even paid for their war crimes. and bragging about their murderous history. I did not have a chance to live in USSR long (neither did you according to your birthdate), but friends and relatives of mine who are one generation older all as one refer to visiting Pribaltic states as one of the most desired vacations for Soviet citizen. Read me correctly. In no place here I told that everything was awesome in old days, I'm just pointing out that what you write here is a deliberate obscuring. this is unproved? maybe you want to visit Estonia one day and see the destruction russians did, talk to locals and read some books about how many people killed, deported, disappeared. its unbelievable nazi symbols and nazi propaganda is forbidden but russians can freely defend their mass murders like nothing happened. and even dare to celebrate it? crazy. | ||
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