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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
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Wonk
546 Posts
any idea where the brackets will be posted? | ||
FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
On October 19 2019 10:14 Wonk wrote: 12 hours of tastosis, there goes my saturday. any idea where the brackets will be posted? I expected them to be on battlefy, but they're still not there yet | ||
sc19980331
China1609 Posts
On October 19 2019 10:29 FakeFin wrote: I expected them to be on battlefy, but they're still not there yet Check it here: https://m.ygosu.com/board/?bid=starbbs&idx=1943736 | ||
sc19980331
China1609 Posts
T: Flash Last Z: JD Larva P: Bisu Guemchi Movie Jaehoon Army: Mong Tyson Leta | ||
Freezard
Sweden994 Posts
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derty555
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TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On October 19 2019 12:15 derty555 wrote: Do you know if there are any foreigners in the bracket? Cadenzie | ||
Geographer
United States185 Posts
On October 19 2019 10:48 sc19980331 wrote: DNP: T: Flash Last Mong Z: JD Larva P: Bisu Guemchi Movie Tyson Flash has retired. Why did the other top players not play? Who are the top ex-pros that did enter KSL4? | ||
REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1903 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1142 Posts
It's so sad, Mong has to military service | ||
Dante08
Singapore4101 Posts
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GTR
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Manifesto7
Osaka26947 Posts
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KarlHungus1908
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
On October 19 2019 16:29 bovienchien wrote: How about Last and Larva? It's so sad, Mong has to military service I asked from his YouTube channel and acording to them Lasts arm is fucked up badly. | ||
Miragee
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
On October 19 2019 18:42 FakeFin wrote: So who has qualified so far? I saw Mind, Sorry and Zero. | ||
GTR
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Also one of Sacsri/Beast (aka Jat), but the series finale wasn't shown on the stream iirc. | ||
whaski
Finland575 Posts
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
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TornadoSteve
775 Posts
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whaski
Finland575 Posts
On October 19 2019 19:24 TornadoSteve wrote: Hyuk Thx. So sad that Action didnt make it... | ||
Dante08
Singapore4101 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4490 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Group A bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group B bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group C bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group D bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group E bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group F bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group G bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group H bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group I bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group J bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group K bracket] + + Show Spoiler [Group L bracket] + | ||
whaski
Finland575 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4490 Posts
On October 19 2019 19:49 whaski wrote: Was group D or E casted at all? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/496501208 It seems like they skipped Group D, but they casted some of group E around 2h in the above VOD. At 4:35:05 they show the full results of Group D & E. | ||
Katkishka
United States640 Posts
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FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
Also 6T, 5P, 5Z, so pretty balanced | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
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TornadoSteve
775 Posts
-Looks like beast will never make it -Shine over Mind would have been better for the show, especially with Mind current form. -Happy to see Hyuk, but sad for Action -No luck for Baxter, had to play Light, sucks for him, guy has shown some nice brood war as of late -PianO just cant TvT, that group was just weak compared to the others anyway | ||
Hatchet_man
Russian Federation249 Posts
Ok I forgot that top 4 last season were all protoss. Well then I have no complains. | ||
sc19980331
China1609 Posts
Sacsri Soma Sorry Hyuk Rush Modesty qualified 3 times in a row, surprise, he ‘s not a full time streamer? Sharp Mini Rain participated KSL ro16 4 times, stable. | ||
ggsimida
1100 Posts
On October 19 2019 21:36 TornadoSteve wrote: random thoughts -Looks like beast will never make it -Shine over Mind would have been better for the show, especially with Mind current form. -Happy to see Hyuk, but sad for Action -No luck for Baxter, had to play Light, sucks for him, guy has shown some nice brood war as of late -PianO just cant TvT, that group was just weak compared to the others anyway Mind is the overall more solid player anyway. just seem have lack form/motivation these past couple of years. also Light just made asl ro8 (unusual by his normal standards) recently only to be stopped by a inhuman player. their rise to form coincides nicely with flash self imposed exile, the scene could use some strong terran representation in his absence | ||
Lorch
Germany3657 Posts
On October 19 2019 12:31 Geographer wrote: Flash has retired. Why did the other top players not play? Blizzard decided to partner with Twitch for KSL. All pros are top streamers on Afreeca with high tier partnerships. Probably not a good combination. Bisu even said on his first stream back that he'd participate in as many tournaments as he could, but KSL was difficult due to it being on twitch... | ||
Crisium
United States1618 Posts
It's not a good look I think. The plus side is we could actually have new talent break through in the KSL. | ||
Ideas
United States7956 Posts
Without last/flash in the tournament the only player that might stop zero would probably be light or ZvZ coinflips. His ZvP is out of control right now. I'd say zero/light/rain are the favorites for the tournament in that order. Sucks that action didn't qualify, he's such a fun zerg to watch :\ . I would have definitely preferred to see him instead of hyuk and calm instead of modesty. Also funny that only 1 protoss made it through qualifiers, but I guess the top 4 were already seeded. | ||
whaski
Finland575 Posts
On October 20 2019 11:45 Ideas wrote: Bummer that last/larva/JD/bisu didn't participate :\ Without last/flash in the tournament the only player that might stop zero would probably be light or ZvZ coinflips. His ZvP is out of control right now. I'd say zero/light/rain are the favorites for the tournament in that order. Sucks that action didn't qualify, he's such a fun zerg to watch :\ . I would have definitely preferred to see him instead of hyuk and calm instead of modesty. Also funny that only 1 protoss made it through qualifiers, but I guess the top 4 were already seeded. Zero has 19-34 record against terran this month including 1-5 against Sorry. Add that to his offline choking and mappool and I would say Rain/Snow and Mini are the favorites here. | ||
M3t4PhYzX
Poland3786 Posts
perfectly balanced race distribution. Rain/SnOw are big favourites again. Maybe ZerO will be able to do well finally. | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
Other than that, a 16 players tournament without the usual suspects in Flash Bisu and Last, this looks pretty balanced to me. Hyped | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
Modesty sOrry Hyuk Mind Rush sacsri Stork They will all need some luck in their brackets to make it to RO8, in that order (imo). Those are the clear favorites, in that order (imo). ZerO Light Rain SnOw Best Soma Sharp Mini | ||
ggsimida
1100 Posts
On October 20 2019 15:39 whaski wrote: Zero has 19-34 record against terran this month including 1-5 against Sorry. Add that to his offline choking and mappool and I would say Rain/Snow and Mini are the favorites here. at time of this post there are only 2 zerg players with zvt winrate of >=45% this month and they are both amateurs. and they only got that winrate because of inferior opposition. flash and terran in general is just making zerg flop like fishes at the moment | ||
Ideas
United States7956 Posts
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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JackyVSO
Denmark80 Posts
And then some top players just missing: Bisu, Last, Larva, Jaedong Aside from those, I think more or less all the best players qualified. Except from Rain playing PvP, every match could be close in a tournament like this, which should be exciting to watch. | ||
thedeadhaji
39472 Posts
Those were some solid OSLs imo. | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
On October 21 2019 20:08 JackyVSO wrote: There are some top players retired, semi-retired or in the military: in this case Flash, SoulKey, effort, hero... but that's always the case. And then some top players just missing: Bisu, Last, Larva, Jaedong Aside from those, I think more or less all the best players qualified. Except from Rain playing PvP, every match could be close in a tournament like this, which should be exciting to watch. this. add Action instead of Hyuk and this top16 is super solid. It is super solid anyway. | ||
M3t4PhYzX
Poland3786 Posts
On October 21 2019 03:18 KamMoye wrote: Kind of a boring tournament. Lot of relative scrubs here, leading to lots of poor match quality. Hopefully ro8/ro4 is decent. Definitely a B-tier tournament this time around. + the map pool is literally as boring as it can possibly get.. | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
Best/Soma kind of a stretch. Best is firmly in the good-but-not-great gatekeeper role. Soma has nice muta micro but not sure he can compete vs the elite. When does ASL begin? The only intriguing players in the scene are Bisu and Zero. Everyone else is a known quantity. | ||
FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
On October 22 2019 01:03 KamMoye wrote: Sharp, Zero, Light, Soma, Best... Snow, Rain? Who else is interesting? Best/Soma kind of a stretch. Best is firmly in the good-but-not-great gatekeeper role. Soma has nice muta micro but not sure he can compete vs the elite. When does ASL begin? The only intriguing players in the scene are Bisu and Zero. Everyone else is a known quantity. And the only two "interesting" players missing are Bisu and Last and it was already known since he returned that bisu wasn't going to participate in KSL, so what were you expecting? And with rapidly improving players like Soma, Sacsri and Sorry the playerpool is about as interesting as it could get except maybe Hyuk and ForGG | ||
ShloobeR
Korea (South)3802 Posts
Also hoping zero doesn't get randomly knocked out in the early stages again Protoss representation is just the usual suspects | ||
KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On October 22 2019 01:35 FakeFin wrote: And the only two "interesting" players missing are Bisu and Last and it was already known since he returned that bisu wasn't going to participate in KSL, so what were you expecting? And with rapidly improving players like Soma, Sacsri and Sorry the playerpool is about as interesting as it could get except maybe Hyuk and ForGG Gee, two of the best five players in the scene are missing and that's an "only"? That's 40% of the watchability. What's interesting about Soma/Sacsri/Sorry/Modesty/Rush/forgg/Hyuk/Mind? We know their level. Slightly capable of upsets. Zero chance of consistently elite play. That's not changing. The most interesting thing, until we get to ro8/ro4, is Tastosis commentary. When does ASL start? | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On October 21 2019 03:18 KamMoye wrote: Kind of a boring tournament. Lot of relative scrubs here, leading to lots of poor match quality. Hopefully ro8/ro4 is decent. Definitely a B-tier tournament this time around. The tournament hasn't even started and you are already calling it boring and B tier? Rofl. As for the absent players: Flash, who's retired from tournaments, and Bisu, who will benefit of having more time, would not play in KSL anyway. Jaedong is as washed up as you can get, it's painful to see him play at such a low level, Last's wrists are in bad conditions and Larva chokes terribly every time he plays on a big stage. Everyone was super hyped for Stork, are you not? Mind is a former champion, your disrespect is out of place, even if I have no idea if he will be competitive in this tournament. It's not like players are perpetually stuck at a predetermined level, you know? Sascri, Soma and Sorry have definitely improved, they might surprise us. I find exciting that there are many dark horses in this tournament, I would personally love to see Snow, Light, Best, Mini, Zero or Sharp eventually crowned champion but I fear Rain might be too good. | ||
Ideas
United States7956 Posts
On October 22 2019 06:28 KamMoye wrote: Gee, two of the best five players in the scene are missing and that's an "only"? That's 40% of the watchability. What's interesting about Soma/Sacsri/Sorry/Modesty/Rush/forgg/Hyuk/Mind? We know their level. Slightly capable of upsets. Zero chance of consistently elite play. That's not changing. The most interesting thing, until we get to ro8/ro4, is Tastosis commentary. When does ASL start? Maybe the BW scene isn't for you. You seem totally disappointed and disrespectful of every player that isn't flash basically? Sorry but we're not in peak BW any more. The players in this tournament are the best that there are out of anyone in the world that can/wants to play. If that's not good enough for you then maybe don't constantly post bitching about it, and just find something else to do? The scene is so small now, why do you always have to be so negative about shit? | ||
Ej_
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sc19980331
China1609 Posts
http://sponbbang.com/bj/ Light#2 Rush#8 Sharp#12 Zero#7 Soma#10 Shine#14 (eliminated) Action#16 (eliminated) Best#3 Snow#4 Rain#11 Stork#13 The quality of KSL4 will be guaranteed based on this imo. | ||
TornadoSteve
775 Posts
It not only keeps the scene alive, but also brings new face to it. I can't wait to see them on stage, especially sOrry | ||
IntoTheStorm
116 Posts
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On October 22 2019 11:14 Ideas wrote: Maybe the BW scene isn't for you. You seem totally disappointed and disrespectful of every player that isn't flash basically? Sorry but we're not in peak BW any more. The players in this tournament are the best that there are out of anyone in the world that can/wants to play. If that's not good enough for you then maybe don't constantly post bitching about it, and just find something else to do? The scene is so small now, why do you always have to be so negative about shit? I'm not always negative. I speak my mind and I don't care who agrees or disagrees. You're free to ignore me. I don't need or want your validation. I'm still going to speak my mind whether you like it or not. Anyone criticizing me that I shouldn't watch or post can easily apply such logic to themselves and not respond or read any of my posts. Simple. Ad hominem doesn't bother me. Just shows me there's not much going on upstairs. | ||
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