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thank god someone finally made one lol, i was about to do it myself :O
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No time for detailed predictions before the matches start... sorry guys : /
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I predict one side rape from STX to Hite then both get raped by the SC team god, SKT1. Hahahaha!
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ogn.ferron.pe seems stable today
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Smugtoss > All Except Leta
Leta for FPL points! XD
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hogil for Hite.
Calm vs Hogil for Set 1.
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Calm better win. Hogil doesnt know how to use mutas for anything aside from sniping HT.
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Baa?21243 Posts
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poor Hogil no Protoss for you.
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Thread was made in a rush. If there are any errors anywhere (like links leading to the wrong place wrong map pics or something else I missed) please say so so I can fix them.
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Is it me or has it been recently that only JD gets screwed when he 12 hatches? All other zergs come out ahead.
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Calm has more lings
looking bad for hogil
edit: takes down lots of drones
pretty much gg
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hogil got raped so bad. That was pathetic.
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Awful game..even for a ZvZ
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Good to see Calm win a ZvZ as he should, hope this indicates he won't get completely raped by Jaedong in MSL. His ZvZ seems to have declined so much, from july through december of last year his ZvZ was near 70%, this year its below 50%
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Baa?21243 Posts
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Pretty good indication of ZvZ BO heirarchy. Calm's 12hatch gave him enough of a larva advantage for the pre-spire attack.
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On May 09 2010 13:21 JSH wrote:
Kal vs Horang2 Hopefully the smugtoss is not lactose intolerant.
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Baa?21243 Posts
STX is not fucking around, Kal will own this =O
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On May 09 2010 13:25 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
STX is not fucking around, Kal will own this =O
Don't be so sure, PvP is Horang's one legit matchup and it's surprisingly good.
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...I knew putting Horang2 on my anti was a bad idea.
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Baa?21243 Posts
Horang2's pretty cheesy PvP (IIRC? it was PvP and wasn't another matchup right?), and Kal is just so friggin' solid. I don't see Horang2 winning =3
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13 kills for tigers reaver!
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rofl HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE scarabs
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Wooo Horang2's reaverrrr!
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Horang2 raping Kal like Stork raped Best on Return of the King.
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epic dud scarab holy shit
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I can't believe that scarab was a dud
It would have killed so many probes...
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51480 Posts
hurry up and switch to win mode, kal
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Baa?21243 Posts
Kal's fucking micro that battle holy shit...less troops than Horang2, epic surround, epic Reaver/Shuttle micro O_O
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wow this is becoming an insanely good game
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wow gets the nexus last second
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horang2 is so unlucky with scarabs
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Damn, hella nice play from Kal. All he has to do is hold the counter and I think he's good to go.
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horang 2 is actually really good at pvp
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Kal sacrificed his entire army in that attack...
Now he loses to Horang2's counter.
Very, very disappointing.
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Kal can't hold off push
natural falls
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
lol horang2 > kal? hahahaha
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Well, both players back down to 1 base.
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
Kal on 3 minerals
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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kal has been practicing too much PvZ
GG!
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
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wow that was one hell of a game 
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Horang2 just knocked his PvP percentage above 70% with that win.
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On May 09 2010 13:40 konadora wrote:
lol horang2 > kal? hahahaha
Dude Horang's PvP owns.
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Horang2's really good at PvP - he's cheesy as hell in PvT but don't know why people are discrediting his PvP
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HORANG2!!!!
seriously, kal's push to get horang2's expo was dumb..he wasted so many units for one nexus and lost his whole army which gave horang 2 the advantage
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Baa?21243 Posts
Weak.
Kal and Calm almost never win on the same day lol T_T
Oh well STX still got this.
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kal being recklessly aggressive  didnt pay off
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K.Will and Outsider so beastly.
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rofl. Im pretty sure kal was ahead until he sacced his whole army to try to completely cripple horang2's eco. didnt work though rofl
this is why i love kal, he only loses by doing really funny shit
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PvP elo Prior to this game Horang2 was actually #4 highest PvP elo (not sure if he'll pass kal for #3 after this), also interesting, Shuttle is now #1 PvP.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Ughh, it's Bogus. Hate this kid.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 09 2010 13:52 Roffles wrote:
Ughh, it's Bogus. Hate this kid.
THIS IS BOGUS!
The gnome will strike again!
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Bogus is such a gnome. I have no idea why but he reminds me of Sheis.
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its probably the weird nose
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Bogus is such a strange looking person. Leta probably got this since Bogus isn't a protoss
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LETA FIGHTING!
both players at 3 expansions.
what's the 3rd anniversary for?
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leta drops into lots of turrets at 10 oclock. breaks it. bogus attempts coutnerattack on leta's ridge near his factoryline, but is fended off/halted relatively easily. Leta moves straight into bogus's natural, but is pushed back. settles for contain at 10 oclock expo.
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Run those dropships around those turrets.
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Bogus expands around the bottom with his tankline at 3 oclock using the natural cliffs well. Map split rather well.
Leta makes attack on 3 oclock, breaks the contain but bogus returns with his dropships and unloads his army right on top of the army. It is takten out, but leta kills troops in the middle of the map.
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You know what I want? I want Leta to nuke somebody.
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Leta drops 5 oclock expo, avoids turrets. Bogus does not respond, but rather drops at 4 oclock and takes the expo there.
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Leta loses all his dropships to turrets...
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lol about 6 dships get destroyed by turret trap
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And leta runs 4 dropships into turrets and they all die.
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both players start to suicide scvs
leta's fpvod shows him with 6000/3000 resources
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Leta suicides all his dropships through turrets at the four oclock. Units still remain at 5, effectively denying it. Bogus's troops overlooking the 3 oclock deny this as well. Leta has four running bases, including a natural almost/probably mined out and another main.
Bogus has depleting natural, a main, and two other expansions. Game looking very even. Leta constructs four startports at main of 2 oclock. Unsure if wraiths or battlecruisers, but control towers suggest BC's.
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Map is very locked up. Leta cannot exit double bridges at the upper part of th emiddle of th emap, but Bogus cannot cross them. They are at equal bases. Leta's first battlecruiser pops out.
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Bogus making huge attack on 10 oclock. Busts it with his numerous dropships and tank reinforcement. Leta does not even bother defending it past its static defenses, probably looking to ride his battlecruisers to victory.
They attack tanks on 3 oclock, and go for command center. It is killed. Bogus drops more tanks beside the turrets at 3 oclcok, and starts up many starports of his own.
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Bogus putting down a bunch of starports, going for BCs as well.
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bogusss you need bcs not wraiths
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Why is everyone going bc in TvT. Just because MVP beat Flash with it doesn't mean everyone has to copy it.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Hmmm Calm fails.
Jaedong 3-0ing him will not surprise me at all.
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On May 09 2010 14:23 flamewheel91 wrote:
Hmmm Calm fails.
Jaedong 3-0ing him will not surprise me at all.
The hell you talking about son?
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United States13143 Posts
On May 09 2010 14:22 LunarDestiny wrote:
Why is everyone going bc in TvT. Just because MVP beat Flash with it doesn't mean everyone has to copy it.
BC has always been the tech of choice in endgame TvT with a split map
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im a bit late but YES GO TIGER TOSS
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On May 09 2010 14:23 flamewheel91 wrote:
Hmmm Calm fails.
Jaedong 3-0ing him will not surprise me at all. LOL
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was splitting his army a good idea for leta?
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Bogus moves forward and eliminates Leta's tank,s allowing his Gols to evade tank fire!!!
Bogus freaking rich at 1.5k/2k...
But Leta's even richer with 4.3k/3k!!!
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bogus completely broke now, leta still 3k minera
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51480 Posts
leta's going to win, he has 200x the amount of resources bogus has
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
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I was so fucking scared for leta. OWNAGE!
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Leta needs to do something about the mullet
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Ground units into battlecruisers into ground units.
Reminds me of that Einstein quote, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
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Baa?21243 Posts
Very interested on who STX is gonna send for Polaris Rhapsody since Kal already played...
Shuttle tends to play Grand Line, but he did play on Polaris before. Probably Shuttle I guess.
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sparkyz has no more good players so i fully expect this to go to ace
looks like hero v secret
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Baa?21243 Posts
Yay get to see hero play! Got this! ^_^
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On May 09 2010 14:45 iamho wrote:
sparkyz has no more good players so i fully expect this to go to ace
looks like hero v secret
hite sent out a P vs an STX Z, I fully expect this to go to ace.
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looks like 3 hatch hydra break(?)
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hite sends out 2 protosses in one match
i don't know either
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i expect secret is about to be massacred
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
And secret GGs. Who's for ace... Leta and Kal? OMG YES PLZ@!
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Kal vs Hogil. Hogil gets to play ZvP luckily for him.
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On May 09 2010 15:11 Mystlord wrote:
YAYYY KAL VS [s]LETA[s] WOOO!!!
Wait Hogil?
rofl. surprise!
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Lucky draw for Hite, but I think Kal will win.
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51480 Posts
Hogil better,
RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN
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i would have figured neither calm nor kal for ace since they're still in leagues. but i guess kal will be happy to show off the PvZ he's training for effort
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O man, the singing in Roffles' stream. lol!!
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Leta is on my FPL team why does it have to be Hogil ace. T_T
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Ace Match @ Match Point
 Kal spawns @ top right
 HoGiL spawns @ bottom left
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Baa?21243 Posts
On May 09 2010 15:22 LUE.Leoj wrote:Leta is on my FPL team why does it have to be Hogil ace. T_T
Cause Leta is auto-lose to Shuttle or Kal.
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United States1719 Posts
the singing is SO ANNOYING
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Ah please, no singing this early in the morning.
Or at least know the words. -_______________________________________-
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This might be good.
Kal, the man who is going to fight against Effort
v.s.
Hogil, the vP sniper
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
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Canada5565 Posts
Match Point. FML
With these two players I wish it was ANY other map. Actually, I always wish it was any other map.
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United States1719 Posts
thank god mystlord's stream has no annoying singing
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hogil puts his 3rd hatch at 3rd gas on match point, top left
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Kal walling off with gateway for now
HogiL getting his third base running
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whoever was singing needs to grow a pair of snowglobes
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couldnt possibly have more standard play in this game, lair going up for hogil, kal takes his natural's gas and his core is done
3rd up for hogil, zealot in there doing all of nothing
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Haha, Kal with some cute micro w/ his zealot at HogiL's third, but fails to get any drone kills.
Spire going up as well as corsair being made
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robo instead of a citadel for kal
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range upgrading for kal? robotics support almost done
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some sair reaver action coming up
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probably +1 air attack for kal, doing some serious overlord raids in hogil's natural
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On May 09 2010 15:27 JohnColtrane wrote:
whoever was singing needs to grow a pair of snowglobes
What, cuz you wouldn't have the 'snowglobes' to do it?
Check yoself, bro.
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Jesus overlord rape. Kal with a mass of sairs dominating hogils OLs
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citadel almost done for kal as well.
hogil is running into some seriou sproblems here with his overlords
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Kal getting a bunch of overlord kills with his corsairs....
He's going to be at such a supply advantage that I don't think Hogil can recover from...
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
looks like Kal's been practicing PvZ liek mad yo
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Kal's corsairs getting alot of ovie kills
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block's kal's 3rd with a burrowed zergling lol, cannon almost done.
kal adds gates to 6, has a ton of sairs with a decent ground army, moving towards hogil's 3rd
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
HOLY WOW BURROW TRAP GETS THE REAVER!!!
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tons of burrowed hydralisks
wow he just picked off the shuttle
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
On May 09 2010 15:32 konadora wrote:
looks like Kal's been practicing PvZ liek mad yo
i retract that statement lol
or not 
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Sick shuttle snipe! Nice!
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hogil taking his inner mineral only, kal has templar tech and his 3rd is done now
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Burrowed hydras sneakily trick Kal into attacking with his army!
But Kal manages to pull out and save most of his units
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Kal closing in @ 11!
Hogil has burrowed hydra! Hogil snipes the shuttle!
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holy crap hogil has a ton of guys, attacking kal's 3rd
massive storms
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kal starting to lose corsairs to hogil's scourges
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Hogil attacking Kal's expansion @ 3 but gets pushed back by HT's!
Kal continuously killing overlords
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Storms push Hogil's army back, while kal's corsairs keep harassing
A shitload of scourges are out now to chase the corsairs away
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Rofl, Hogil's pretty pissed at those sairs right now.
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mutalisks out for hogil now
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Hogil pumping mutas because of Kal's lost corsairs
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kal moving towards the center of the map now, lurkers are around.
kal moving up the tiny ramp, theres no lurkers there
hogil prefers to not micro his mutalisks
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Kal coming in for an attack....takes out the mutas and the hydra/lurk army and is pushing forward towards the natural. Great timing by kal!
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
No scourge for Kal makes me a sad, ad boy.
BUT OMG HUGE STORM ON THE DRONES!!!
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kills the shuttle but there werent any reavers in it
really needs to snipe that obs if he wants to get anywhere
tons of his guys are dying and kal is in his natural
tons of drones die to a storm
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Oh wow! storm takes out a lot of drones at the natural
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13 kills on that HT lmfao
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how did hogil's mutas not take out the shuttle with reaver in it that was just chilling next to them for a few seconds?
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Kal pushes in! Hogil kills an observer!
Kal gets a storm off and kills a bunch of drones!
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Hogil eventually pushes back Kal's forces
Hogil loses a lurker in the middle of nowhere.
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kal going around, taking 12 and looking to take 5 but a borrowed lurker stops it
kal is repelled from 11
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Kal getting an expansion @ 12
Zealots go to 11 but Hogil's defense scares away Kal
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wow kal has a lot of guys
for some reason hogil decides to not use his entire army at once
somehow manages to stop kal's attack though
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
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defilers almost out for hogil
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Kal's storms are just killing Hogil's lurkers left and right.
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This looks bleak for Hogil....he's on equal bases with Kal.
Defiler tech is going down and he's getting a few good observer snipes, but Kal looks to have the upper hand at the moment
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wow hogil barely manages to scourge those obs too bad theres another one right behind them
kal wins the bartle by a large margin and has a ton of units rolling up, doesnt look good
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Kal's attack completely overwhelms Hogil's forces!!!!
Hogil is screwed big time!
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kal moving into his mineral only, losing this for sure
smugtoss is pleased
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Hogil desperately sniping obs, but Kal gets more. Kal's units are rolling Hogil!
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kal moving his goons into hogil's natural, not enough stuff to really stop him
hogil is sad =(
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Kal with just as much dragoons as Hogil had lings....and his archon still took all of them out before the goons got there XD
Hogil throwing up sunkens in desparation....Kal streams in with zealots
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
hogil already has both hands off the keyboard and mouse lol
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So yeah, as I said, trying to snipe Kal with Hogil was a mistake...
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Ahahahhaa, Hogil's not even playing the game now.
GG. Well played by Kal.
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GG from Hogil....finally he took his sweet ass time...
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konadora
Singapore66224 Posts
PROTOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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leta v. kal woulda been much better
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Wow, STX is on FIRE this round
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Hogil T_T'ing
Hogil GGs!
STX win.
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7-1 I think? CRAP KT PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER
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On May 09 2010 15:43 o[twist] wrote:
leta v. kal woulda been much better
leta is historically weak in tvp... they had the right idea with hogil. he just didnt quite come through
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
And GG from Hogil, and an epic face palm :<
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On May 09 2010 15:43 o[twist] wrote:
leta v. kal woulda been much better
lol you serious.
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Can't wait for Kal vs Effort.
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Canada5565 Posts
Kal looking better everyday, he's grown a lot since 09
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Baa?21243 Posts
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man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days.
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On May 09 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote:
man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days.
Not really?
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On May 09 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote:
man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days.
HiyA's TvP
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On May 09 2010 15:52 Sadistx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote:
man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days. HiyA's TvP
i've heard his msl games were awesome although I havent seen yet because there are no VODs up
but really before then would you REALLY say he was out of the ordinary at ALL?
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What did Kal do this game that was out of the ordinary?
I don't mean to diss on him, he played extraordinarily well, but I just don't see what it was he did that was boxer like. He played fairly standard PvZ.
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On May 09 2010 16:25 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 15:52 Sadistx wrote:On May 09 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote:
man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days. HiyA's TvP i've heard his msl games were awesome although I havent seen yet because there are no VODs up but really before then would you REALLY say he was out of the ordinary at ALL?
the vods are up for free v hiya
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875¤tpage=333#6744
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United States13143 Posts
Hite should've played Horang2 again, his PvP is awesome
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Russian Federation405 Posts
On May 09 2010 16:55 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 16:25 Ideas wrote:On May 09 2010 15:52 Sadistx wrote:On May 09 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote:
man what a good match. Kal PvZ is just so unbelievably entertaining, it's basically the closest there is to boxer TvZ these days. HiyA's TvP i've heard his msl games were awesome although I havent seen yet because there are no VODs up but really before then would you REALLY say he was out of the ordinary at ALL? the vods are up for free v hiya http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50875¤tpage=333#6744
or check  Liquipedia for sure!
P.S. You can also check today games’ VODs — Week 5 Day Two.
EDIT: Liquipedia links correction
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there's nothing in those links
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Russian Federation405 Posts
On May 09 2010 17:21 JohnColtrane wrote:
there's nothing in those links
Have you clicked on the image ?
EDIT: Sorry, my bad with links to Liquipedia articles. Corrected now.
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you know for a team that has such great depth STX needs a whole lot of ace games to win
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On May 09 2010 18:33 SuperArc wrote:
you know for a team that has such great depth STX needs a whole lot of ace games to win
only to give all their deep players lineup appearences!
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France2061 Posts
STXXX
Effort better watch out.
On May 09 2010 16:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
What did Kal do this game that was out of the ordinary?
I don't mean to diss on him, he played extraordinarily well, but I just don't see what it was he did that was boxer like. He played fairly standard PvZ.
I didn't watch this match yet so I can't comment on his game here, but he's often played games where he comes back with clutch micro and drops. To compare him to Boxer might be a stretch, but he probably is the most fun Protoss to watch right now (and not the kind of fun Backho or Rock provide).
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hite needs to crank it into high leta-abuse mode. though hogil was a good choice considering they sent out kal, it just seems like if they were looking to snipe protoss they should have sent horang2.
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Calm: Meh
Kal: No!
Bogus: Don't try to be cute, go BC next time. But well played.
Hero: Messy hydra bust at the beginning, just messy.
Kal: Could kill an expansion earlier but did everything right. It's funny to forget about the HT @ the natural only casting storm after it was attacked.
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On May 09 2010 22:03 snowdrift86 wrote:STXXX Effort better watch out. Show nested quote +On May 09 2010 16:52 TwoToneTerran wrote:
What did Kal do this game that was out of the ordinary?
I don't mean to diss on him, he played extraordinarily well, but I just don't see what it was he did that was boxer like. He played fairly standard PvZ. I didn't watch this match yet so I can't comment on his game here, but he's often played games where he comes back with clutch micro and drops. To compare him to Boxer might be a stretch, but he probably is the most fun Protoss to watch right now (and not the kind of fun Backho or Rock provide).
stylistically kal isnt very similar to boxer at all but i meant how every one of his PvZs are consistantly awesome.
today wasn't his best recent one but 1st off I was coming off the high of his PvP where he tried to sac his army to completely destroy horang2's eco and it didnt work but was still awesome lol
2nd off he did the same build that he's done before on match point and I love it so much. he basically gets his mineral only so early with just half a control group of ground units, a reaver, and 6-8 corsairs.
maybe this game in particular didnt have anything TOO awesome, but I probably just get way too excited whenever Kal plays (especially a PvZ). right now it's basically like whenever July got to play a ZvT or ZvP back in the day when he still played PL :\
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I really Kal a lot and he was always the 2nd best PvZer for me after Bisu back in the dragon days, but imo it's way too I don't know how to say it (his wins are many times way too close?).
I just don't think Kal's PvZ has the consistency to win a bo5 against Effort.
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