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NewJulyZerg
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada29 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-14 05:47:56
August 14 2008 05:47 GMT
#1
I was wondering what the best build order was for a 2 proxy gate on common maps like python or blue storm (vs ran or zerg). I also want to know what location to proxy in - is it best to just 2 gate your natural or somewhere in the middle?

What I have been trying on python is 6 scout to middle 7 pylon 9 gate 9 gate and 13 pylon but the timing is off. Is it always 9 gate, 9 gate for proxy??

reps would help..
Thank you
Jefhearth @ Twitch
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
August 14 2008 06:02 GMT
#2
89913.
Send the pylon on 6.5 or 7 depending on map. 7 should be fine on Python.
8 pylon
9 gate
9 gate
11 zealot
13 pylon
13 zealot
15 zealot etc

Or you could learn to play the game. That works too.
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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 14 2008 06:03 GMT
#3
Definition of a proxy gate is that its closer to or as close to them as it is you. (2 player maps its closer to them 4 player maps in middle usually)

You build is more or less how the build works, people also like the 8 pylon 9/10 gate.

I'm a terran player so I may be completely wrong about the build order.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
August 14 2008 06:03 GMT
#4
7 pylon is no good. Why cut probes to build your pylon only to make more before you lay down a gateway? Since you're going to stop probes at 9 anyway to 9/9 gate you can pylon also at 9, which if center-gating would allow for more mining before planting gates due to a later probe send-out.
Putting it in your natural is safer, you're less likely to lose your gateways in the case that the rush doesn't kill your opponent flat-out. But your zealots will arrive later so it depends what you have in mind.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-14 06:46:05
August 14 2008 06:45 GMT
#5
On August 14 2008 15:02 Kwark wrote:Or you could learn to play the game. That works too.

EDIT: why don't you just experiment and test the timings out yourself
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44397 Posts
August 14 2008 07:48 GMT
#6
On August 14 2008 15:45 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2008 15:02 Kwark wrote:Or you could learn to play the game. That works too.

EDIT: why don't you just experiment and test the timings out yourself

I know the timings perfectly. I gave them correctly. I just don't see why he'd really want to practice proxy gates.
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
August 14 2008 07:52 GMT
#7
Well, I mean, if all we tosses sucked at cheese, ever single terran would 14CC and ever single zerg would 3 hatch before pool or some gay shit like that. At least this keeps them honest.

my 2 cents.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
August 14 2008 08:45 GMT
#8
i doubt any zerg or terran would do that without scouting lol
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NewJulyZerg
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada29 Posts
August 15 2008 17:43 GMT
#9
thanks, the b/o from kwark works fine... I just want to mix it up a bit thats why im learning to proxy gate
Jefhearth @ Twitch
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