• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:36
CEST 20:36
KST 03:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!28Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)94
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format What's the best tug of war? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8483 users

Inconsistent wall(?!)

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-19 10:14:11
May 19 2020 10:00 GMT
#1
Just found something very weird. https://imgur.com/a/7ggd2ZI

http://www.filedropper.com/weirdwall (replay link, always use ublock!)

The ling on the bottom start location can go inside the base but not outside. Tried with CC also but that was solid wall.

I was researching how walls could be built on this map when i found this. I thought it was ling tight first, but when trying from outside to in it was not :'D

As most of you may know, this page: (Wiki)List of Unit and Building Sizes is used to check whether buildings to buildings are solid wall, however there is no such info vs doodads/terrain.

Fun fact from this is that you have to check your walls on new maps from both directions :D
-.-
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-19 10:24:40
May 19 2020 10:24 GMT
#2
I never came across that, will check later today.

Which map is it?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 19 2020 10:48 GMT
#3
(2)Road War.scm
-.-
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
May 19 2020 21:42 GMT
#4
Wow, this is nostalgic. This is the 1st map I played with my brother on LAN back in 1998, lol.

As for the map i struggle testing as only 2 players slots so I cannot make a ling / marine without editor. :D
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-20 08:15:25
May 20 2020 08:14 GMT
#5
@KogeT, here is the editor: http://files.theabyss.ru/sc/starcraft.zip

And here is my map: http://www.filedropper.com/roadwartest
-.-
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-20 16:51:20
May 20 2020 16:34 GMT
#6
Some one found the same kind of bug on La Mancha a while ago:

(the bugfixed version I made for BWCL fixes this)

I investigated it and came to the conclusion that it is an issue with BroodWar's short range pathfinding and how it evaluates obstacles. The gap is wide enough for the Ling to path, but short range pathfinding does not necessarily always recognize the right moves to get the Ling to the gap. You can still get Zerglings through, without too much of a hassle. All you need to do is click a short distance in front of the gap at the side you the Ling's coming from, so it gets into a position where it can easily reach the gap, then click a short distance past the obstacle, and the Zergling will quite handily pass through.

Pictures from the Editor (with unwalkable terrain and collision boxes visible):

+ Show Spoiler [La Mancha] +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler [Road War] +
[image loading]

As you can easily see here, your wall would be tight if you moved your Barracks one tile to the left.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-20 16:54:52
May 20 2020 16:51 GMT
#7
I tried passing the ling with short moves but wasnt able to.

And ya i also believe its the pathing thats the error here. Anyhow a funny bug but not so useful

@Freakling which editor is that?
-.-
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
May 20 2020 16:55 GMT
#8
The editor of course + Show Spoiler +
(SCMDraft)
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 20 2020 16:59 GMT
#9
Thx. I will have to try that out. Im curious about this on some other maps where a rax block entrances.
-.-
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Platinum Heroes Events
16:00
PHSC2 Tour S26 Cup #6
RotterdaM1037
Liquipedia
Online Event
15:00
Yamato Cup #7
killerbeecast18
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1037
ProTech83
BRAT_OK 74
ZombieGrub50
Vindicta 27
MindelVK 20
EmSc Tv 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1279
Mini 538
ggaemo 199
Soulkey 182
Free 43
soO 34
Shine 26
yabsab 9
firebathero 0
Dota 2
420jenkins1019
monkeys_forever197
Counter-Strike
fl0m7541
minikerr36
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor330
Other Games
singsing1439
Grubby1165
Beastyqt665
B2W.Neo463
elazer222
Liquid`Hasu195
ArmadaUGS171
C9.Mang078
Livibee74
Mew2King52
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1702
StarCraft 2
angryscii 29
EmSc Tv 19
EmSc2Tv 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Airneanach12
• Reevou 5
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 25
• Pr0nogo 11
• FirePhoenix10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2049
Other Games
• Shiphtur483
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
16h 24m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 15h
INu's Battles
1d 16h
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Proleague 2026-07-26
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.