• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:08
CEST 21:08
KST 04:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver4[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Syncronization issues and can't find games Why Protoss Struggles on ASL (Ft. Shuttle, Tulbo) ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6933 users

Firebat vs Hydra?

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
December 15 2004 14:08 GMT
#1
Just a thought, i think bat do good vs hydra if it can get close rite?
BOINK BOINK! Recursively defined
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:11 GMT
#2
ok.
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
December 15 2004 14:16 GMT
#3
no.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
December 15 2004 14:27 GMT
#4
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word
impatience is a virtue
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:29 GMT
#5
On December 15 2004 23:27 radar14 wrote:
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word


Did you mean 'help' or 'think'?

Yoink.
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
December 15 2004 14:33 GMT
#6
On December 15 2004 23:27 radar14 wrote:
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word


Lol yeah, what could i say to Grot? he is too... well, boring style of playting, imho, there is no game with out some cheese.
and i AM allowed to ask questions rite? cuz im not sure how does bat do vs zerg, so i cant say: Oy grot! make some bats and they will moosh zergs over~. rite?

K now back to topic: bat with one upg(weap) and stim pack, i did a test early on, for small size, hydra wins, they can micro... for medium size, bat wins, just flank hydras, for large size, hydra wins, you cannot flank such large group...
So i was thinking about bat+goliath combo? just a thought, but seen their cost is pretty much reasonable: 2:1 mineral/gas ratio, allows you to mass them like a mofo...
BOINK BOINK! Recursively defined
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
December 15 2004 14:36 GMT
#7
thats deep
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 14:41 GMT
#8
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#9
On December 15 2004 23:41 Never Post wrote:
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?


Some people just like to micro alright?!?!?!!!!!!


aus.icy
Profile Joined December 2004
Australia64 Posts
December 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#10
bats beat hydras in medium sized groups? im pretty sure hydras would win no matter what the sizes are aslong as there equal :S
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 14:48 GMT
#11
You can micro MnM ^_^
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada3819 Posts
December 15 2004 15:10 GMT
#12
On December 15 2004 23:41 Never Post wrote:
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?


Watch the replay of Nal_Testie vs Froz. It shows some MnM getting owned by Hydras.

T_T
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 15:14 GMT
#13
Still, is Firebat + Medics suppose to be any better?
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 15:21:44
December 15 2004 15:20 GMT
#14
On December 16 2004 00:14 Never Post wrote:
Still, is Firebat + Medics suppose to be any better?


nono its pure firebat and stim and +1 up is better vs. hydras because you have to micro




()
UMS map pack http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50442
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2795 Posts
December 15 2004 15:21 GMT
#15
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !
wakiki
Profile Joined September 2004
United States65 Posts
December 15 2004 15:36 GMT
#16
Fbats are also alot better vs. Muta, since they can take more hits.
Give me immortality, or give me death!
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 15:38:47
December 15 2004 15:37 GMT
#17
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...
BOINK BOINK! Recursively defined
Stygg
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden1100 Posts
December 15 2004 16:07 GMT
#18
On December 16 2004 00:37 evanthebouncy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...


WOOOOSH!
wine is fine but whiskey's quicker
Veigh
Profile Joined November 2003
Netherlands300 Posts
December 15 2004 16:28 GMT
#19
On December 16 2004 00:37 evanthebouncy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...


Wow, good point, that's why I always lose tvz
Mirror matchups are imbalanced by definition
TradeMark
Profile Joined July 2004
Japan41 Posts
December 15 2004 16:34 GMT
#20
Oh man how do you live past ,lurkers ?
I MADE PAStA
1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 424
BRAT_OK 53
JuggernautJason39
MindelVK 21
UpATreeSC 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1041
Dewaltoss 207
Light 201
NaDa 12
scan(afreeca) 11
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm70
febbydoto5
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m2702
shoxiejesuss1280
pashabiceps212
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King81
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu539
Other Games
Grubby3544
Beastyqt682
FrodaN552
B2W.Neo419
C9.Mang0230
KnowMe176
Hui .152
SteadfastSC48
Railgan31
ZombieGrub14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1634
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 221
Other Games
BasetradeTV36
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• Reevou 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2655
• masondota21186
League of Legends
• TFBlade1208
Other Games
• imaqtpie678
• Shiphtur116
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 52m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
15h 52m
Cure vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Percival vs Classic
ByuN vs Rogue
OSC
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
GSL
3 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
3 days
Spirit vs Mixu
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.