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Firebat vs Hydra?

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evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
December 15 2004 14:08 GMT
#1
Just a thought, i think bat do good vs hydra if it can get close rite?
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:11 GMT
#2
ok.
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
December 15 2004 14:16 GMT
#3
no.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
December 15 2004 14:27 GMT
#4
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word
impatience is a virtue
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:29 GMT
#5
On December 15 2004 23:27 radar14 wrote:
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word


Did you mean 'help' or 'think'?

Yoink.
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
December 15 2004 14:33 GMT
#6
On December 15 2004 23:27 radar14 wrote:
did you think of this right after you "helped" grot in his tvz thread? and i do mean that in the most liberal sense of the word


Lol yeah, what could i say to Grot? he is too... well, boring style of playting, imho, there is no game with out some cheese.
and i AM allowed to ask questions rite? cuz im not sure how does bat do vs zerg, so i cant say: Oy grot! make some bats and they will moosh zergs over~. rite?

K now back to topic: bat with one upg(weap) and stim pack, i did a test early on, for small size, hydra wins, they can micro... for medium size, bat wins, just flank hydras, for large size, hydra wins, you cannot flank such large group...
So i was thinking about bat+goliath combo? just a thought, but seen their cost is pretty much reasonable: 2:1 mineral/gas ratio, allows you to mass them like a mofo...
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imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
December 15 2004 14:36 GMT
#7
thats deep
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 14:41 GMT
#8
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
December 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#9
On December 15 2004 23:41 Never Post wrote:
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?


Some people just like to micro alright?!?!?!!!!!!


aus.icy
Profile Joined December 2004
Australia64 Posts
December 15 2004 14:44 GMT
#10
bats beat hydras in medium sized groups? im pretty sure hydras would win no matter what the sizes are aslong as there equal :S
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 14:48 GMT
#11
You can micro MnM ^_^
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
December 15 2004 15:10 GMT
#12
On December 15 2004 23:41 Never Post wrote:
And the problem with Marines + Medics against Hydras is..?


Watch the replay of Nal_Testie vs Froz. It shows some MnM getting owned by Hydras.

T_T
Never Post
Profile Joined July 2004
United Kingdom503 Posts
December 15 2004 15:14 GMT
#13
Still, is Firebat + Medics suppose to be any better?
Note to self: [You have short term memory loss - you did post this]
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 15:21:44
December 15 2004 15:20 GMT
#14
On December 16 2004 00:14 Never Post wrote:
Still, is Firebat + Medics suppose to be any better?


nono its pure firebat and stim and +1 up is better vs. hydras because you have to micro




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gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
December 15 2004 15:21 GMT
#15
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !
wakiki
Profile Joined September 2004
United States65 Posts
December 15 2004 15:36 GMT
#16
Fbats are also alot better vs. Muta, since they can take more hits.
Give me immortality, or give me death!
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-15 15:38:47
December 15 2004 15:37 GMT
#17
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...
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Stygg
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden1100 Posts
December 15 2004 16:07 GMT
#18
On December 16 2004 00:37 evanthebouncy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...


WOOOOSH!
wine is fine but whiskey's quicker
Veigh
Profile Joined November 2003
Netherlands300 Posts
December 15 2004 16:28 GMT
#19
On December 16 2004 00:37 evanthebouncy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 00:21 gulii wrote:
they will die be4 they will get there to shoot !


That's y you mix them with goliaths, goliath will draw fire(higher attack piority)
thats rite!

um walkiki... firebats cannot fight back to mutas...


Wow, good point, that's why I always lose tvz
Mirror matchups are imbalanced by definition
TradeMark
Profile Joined July 2004
Japan41 Posts
December 15 2004 16:34 GMT
#20
Oh man how do you live past ,lurkers ?
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