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cheesehuehue
Profile Joined March 2024
Vatican City State90 Posts
May 01 2024 16:55 GMT
#21
This is not an ASL game, but I thought I'd link to it anyways because people have been so pissed off about ZvZ recently.
Queen plays a 30min ZvZ in ladder (starting at 4:30)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7965 Posts
May 01 2024 19:49 GMT
#22
On May 02 2024 01:55 cheesehuehue wrote:
This is not an ASL game, but I thought I'd link to it anyways because people have been so pissed off about ZvZ recently.
Queen plays a 30min ZvZ in ladder (starting at 4:30)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5XlRjCaNag&t=4m30s

AMAZING !!!! thank you for sharing !!!
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SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
May 03 2024 18:49 GMT
#23
Wow that is an incredible game omg
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2837 Posts
May 04 2024 04:26 GMT
#24
On April 30 2024 16:52 TMNT wrote:
Effort vs Action has to be a contender for sure.

Recency bias probably plays a big part here but in terms of uniqueness which is my top criteria for "greatest games" then Best vs Light on 76, Best vs Action on Nemesis, Barracks vs Mini on Apocalypse have to be up there.

Shame that 76 didn't see more games in ASL. There are weird maps that produce shit games (Arkanoid, Plasma) but there are weird maps that produce one of a kind games like 76.


Agree. Miss 76.
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
May 04 2024 07:54 GMT
#25
On May 04 2024 13:26 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2024 16:52 TMNT wrote:
Effort vs Action has to be a contender for sure.

Recency bias probably plays a big part here but in terms of uniqueness which is my top criteria for "greatest games" then Best vs Light on 76, Best vs Action on Nemesis, Barracks vs Mini on Apocalypse have to be up there.

Shame that 76 didn't see more games in ASL. There are weird maps that produce shit games (Arkanoid, Plasma) but there are weird maps that produce one of a kind games like 76.


Agree. Miss 76.

Same, same.. great map for a BW spectator, that's for sure.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1542 Posts
May 04 2024 08:30 GMT
#26
Effort vs Flash, the level of game play displayed by Effort was the greatest I have watched, spectacular wins and build orders.
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LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1423 Posts
May 05 2024 13:27 GMT
#27
On April 30 2024 16:21 earob84 wrote:
I go with Effort v Flash (the whole series, ASL 6 finals).
And i say this as a P player...


Amazing! I agree 100%

P.S. Your avatar is of SCV tho here on tl.net lel ; D You can change that to P btw.
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iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
May 06 2024 10:08 GMT
#28
On May 01 2024 19:44 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
you forgot effort vs action zvz!


it wasn't actually that good, it was actually very one-sided

there are non-ASL hydra games that end up something like this:

Zerg 1 goes 3 hatch ling and destroys the economy of the 1 base zerg, but has to mass spores because Zerg 2 stabilizes with muta.

when you end up going mass spore it's actually the ideal transition to hydra, not devourer because devourer sucks

hydra is better because plague destroys flying units, completely flipping the game script
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 06 2024 16:20 GMT
#29
On May 02 2024 04:49 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2024 01:55 cheesehuehue wrote:
This is not an ASL game, but I thought I'd link to it anyways because people have been so pissed off about ZvZ recently.
Queen plays a 30min ZvZ in ladder (starting at 4:30)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5XlRjCaNag&t=4m30s

AMAZING !!!! thank you for sharing !!!

Look at the the name of his opponent ... IKYKY
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
May 06 2024 16:34 GMT
#30
On May 07 2024 01:20 bITt.mAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2024 04:49 prosatan wrote:
On May 02 2024 01:55 cheesehuehue wrote:
This is not an ASL game, but I thought I'd link to it anyways because people have been so pissed off about ZvZ recently.
Queen plays a 30min ZvZ in ladder (starting at 4:30)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5XlRjCaNag&t=4m30s

AMAZING !!!! thank you for sharing !!!

Look at the the name of his opponent ... IKYKY

Who is that?
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8087 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 21:06:33
May 06 2024 21:05 GMT
#31
Almost forgot: as an old-school Calm fan it was so awesome seeing him make an ASL comeback and bust out a brain-zerg style build against Last in the Ro16 and then beat Snow afterward to come out of his group in first place:

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so0willprevail
Profile Joined July 2018
4 Posts
May 06 2024 22:36 GMT
#32
Season 5 3rd place match: Mini vs hero, map 5 on Third World
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
392 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 23:07:33
May 06 2024 22:57 GMT
#33
mini vs rush on eclipse - scouts

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mong vs soulkey on vermeer - epic mech switch slugfest

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Larva appears to have gone for a 3 hatch spire into lurker into hive before muta, into defiler guardian...off 2 base.. https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-06 23:45:54
May 06 2024 23:41 GMT
#34
On May 07 2024 07:57 tankgirl wrote:
mini vs rush on eclipse - scouts

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/ahnzlVnvdPE?t=4380


mong vs soulkey on vermeer - epic mech switch slugfest

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/gRbeFZjak6k?t=6182


Oh man i forgot about that first game (and the second) -- incredible.

Also gonna add Soma v rush -- one base lurker
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tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
392 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-11 10:13:37
May 11 2024 07:51 GMT
#35
this wasnt a "crazy" or "unorthodox"game, and not a serious candidate f0r the "greatest asl game of all time". but hasnt been mentioned yet (?)

kindof a disgusting example of the both players at the apogee of skill, dancing on a knife edge...just an insanely well-played game by both sides

flash vs action @ horizon | (ASL) S9 Ro.8 Day1
+ Show Spoiler +

Larva appears to have gone for a 3 hatch spire into lurker into hive before muta, into defiler guardian...off 2 base.. https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey318 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-18 23:16:24
May 18 2024 23:12 GMT
#36
On April 30 2024 04:46 SerpentFlame wrote:
What is the best ASL game of all time?

We had some bangers in this season (Mini v Barracks, Soulkey vs Snow) that come close. But which is the best of all time? Other candidates possibly include:

Effort v Flash (the whole series, ASL 6 finals)
Effort v Last (burrow shenanigans)
Nada v Larva (nuclear rush)
Action v Best (into the late late game, S15 Ro8 game 3)
Snow v Flash (ASL 5, games 3 and 5 in particular)
Soulkey vs JyJ (wraith play into macro on 76)
Flash's random run

Some of Shine's shenanigans (Guardian rush vs Light, Bag of Builds vs Bisu, Nydus rush vs Mong, slow lurker drop vs Royal, etc.)

Plenty more I'm sure i'm forgetting

Lots of games are great. But which one is the *very best*?

(I checked out https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/556802-what-are-some-of-the-best-games-from-asl-ksl for some contenders, from 2020 and before).

That 600th ASL game was some tour de force! Last playing that greedily against the most aggressive ZvZ expert, I mean against Effort was some understatement!
Turrican
MercedesFranklin
Profile Joined August 2024
1 Post
August 05 2024 03:33 GMT
#37
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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1678 Posts
August 06 2024 00:49 GMT
#38
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
August 06 2024 01:47 GMT
#39
Can everyone step back and realize that Effort creates some of the craziest games and series out of any pro player in the game and in all 3 match ups at that. He always just seems to make the match that much more insane in terms of time, macro, which I think stems a bit off him at times having insane economies that most other zergs don't usually match.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35136 Posts
August 06 2024 11:56 GMT
#40
On May 01 2024 19:44 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
you forgot effort vs action zvz!

If that's the one that went looooong, yes. Long ZvZ are the most interesting games.
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