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2023Q3 TOP100 Balloon Donation for All SC1&2 BJs

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jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China187 Posts
October 01 2023 07:23 GMT
#1
2023Q1~Q3 TOP100 Balloon Donation Rankings for All SC:BW&SC2 streamers in AfreecaTV

This is a ranking of the real earnings of Korean StarCraft players, which shows why there are still so many Koreans in the game.
This statistics include all female SC BJs(streamers) in AfreecaTV.
all info from:poong.today

Statistics on October 1st, 2023
Exchange rate: 1 balloon = 100 KRW ;1 USD($) = 1,352 KRW ;1 CNY(¥) = 185 KRW

(TOP30)
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(TOP31~70)
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(TOP70~100)
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(SC:BW Others)
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(SC2)
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Notes:
1 Thanks for jinjin5000's contribution,We need more information from inside Korea.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/604596-2022-balloon-donation-rankings-for-bw-streamers

2 BJ type and balloon currency exchange policy description:
https://namu.wiki/w/별풍선

3 The ones with pink backgrounds are all female Bjs, and the blue background is where I'm not sure or don't know her/his Game ID.

4.2023Q1 TOP100 Balloon Donation for All SC BJs
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/609447-2023q1-top100-balloon-donation-for-all-sc-bjs

Rome was not built in a day.
jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China187 Posts
October 01 2023 07:25 GMT
#2
You can click on this online document link to go to page 3 for a full view of the document statistics.

【腾讯文档】中韩星际选手实力排名CHN&KOR SC BW Ranking·3.05&20230928
https://docs.qq.com/sheet/DTndhR2hYdlR4Z2x4?tab=BB08J2
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4230 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-01 07:50:48
October 01 2023 07:50 GMT
#3
:O :O :O

ok.. wow..
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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines596 Posts
October 01 2023 10:17 GMT
#4
damn, bisu and larva have fallen a lot from this old thread TT
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/512299-top-10-earners-of-july
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1763 Posts
October 01 2023 12:38 GMT
#5
Thanks for the list! Does this also include proleague earnings?
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
October 01 2023 16:15 GMT
#6
On October 01 2023 21:38 bioboyAT wrote:
Thanks for the list! Does this also include proleague earnings?

Partly "included" is the best description I can come up with, because in reality the money is distributed in more complicated way than you see from this balloon ranking.

For example Shuttle can receive $5k alone from donation for a Proleague, but he lost that one so the entire money has to be redistributed to the winners, but $5k (in balloons) still goes in Shuttle's balance. How the money is distributed among the players I honestly don't know. Maybe some Korean posters can shed some light on this.

And that's also why you see the likes of Soma, Queen and Hero so low on this list. For example Queen only earned 22k from this ranking and because 40% of his balloons were cut by Afreeca (insane fee I'd say) as he also streams on youtube, which makes him not eligible for "Partner BJ". But that means his actual income is higher than 22k because there are donations from youtube and money redistributed from proleague. Eloboard estimated his prize from proleague for the first 9 months is ~$72k (fee from afreeca and youtube not accounted though).

redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
October 01 2023 22:45 GMT
#7
On October 02 2023 01:15 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2023 21:38 bioboyAT wrote:
Thanks for the list! Does this also include proleague earnings?

Partly "included" is the best description I can come up with, because in reality the money is distributed in more complicated way than you see from this balloon ranking.

For example Shuttle can receive $5k alone from donation for a Proleague, but he lost that one so the entire money has to be redistributed to the winners, but $5k (in balloons) still goes in Shuttle's balance. How the money is distributed among the players I honestly don't know. Maybe some Korean posters can shed some light on this.

And that's also why you see the likes of Soma, Queen and Hero so low on this list. For example Queen only earned 22k from this ranking and because 40% of his balloons were cut by Afreeca (insane fee I'd say) as he also streams on youtube, which makes him not eligible for "Partner BJ". But that means his actual income is higher than 22k because there are donations from youtube and money redistributed from proleague. Eloboard estimated his prize from proleague for the first 9 months is ~$72k (fee from afreeca and youtube not accounted though).


Proleague funding mechanics (might not be 100% accurate):

During initial fundraising phase, each player gathers funds in 2 main ways:

1. Advance deposit ("선입금"): the donator donates star balloons directly to the player's stream. Done on a "per winning person" count ("두") - For example "두 100" means 100 star balloons per winning player (for a total donation of 400 star balloons for a 4v4 and 500 star balloons for a 5v5)

2. Pledged payment: a donator will promise the player that they will pay a certain amount to each person on the winning team (much like the system in sponsored matches)

After the Proleague is over, each player has to first calculate how many star balloons they need to transfer over to other players

This is easy for anyone on the losing team, they simply have to give all the Advance deposit star balloons they received to the winning team (apportioned equally to each winning player). For example if a player's Advance deposit amount was "두 1000" (aka 1000 star balloons per winning player), they owe 1000 star balloons to each winning player. (duh)

A bit more complicated for the winning team. After celebrating the win, the first question asked is "what is everyone's Advance deposit amounts?" Each player on the winning team will tell each other their Advance deposit ("두 ___") figures. If your teammate has a higher or same Advance deposit amount as you, you owe them nothing. If your teammate has a lower Advance deposit amount than you, you owe them the difference between your two amounts. For example, if Player A has "두 1000" in Advance deposit and Player B has "두 700" in Advance deposit, Player A owes Player B 300 Star Balloons.

The actual transferring method of choice is KakaoPay, which I believe is a free way to send money to one's friends/family (like Venmo in the US). The players will transfer 50% of the monetary value of the owed star balloons to each other.

To give an easy example, if Player A owes Player B 400 star balloons, they will send over 50% of the monetary amount (the monetary value of 200 star balloons = 20,000 KRW) to that player via KakaoPay.

50% is used so no one takes a net loss with the Afreeca fees. Afreeca takes 40% from regular streamers, 30% from "Best BJ" streamers, and 20% from "Partner BJ streamers." You are not allowed to broadcast to multiple platforms (like Twitch or YT) if you are a Best BJ or Partner BJ. The vast majority of pros are Best BJs and only a handful are Partner BJs.

This system lets even a losing player keep 10% of their Advance deposit star balloons, that number goes up to 20% for Best BJs and 30% for Partner BJs. Pretty good system for Partner BJs even if they lose tbh.

As for the Pledge payment donations, the individual donators will go around to each winning player's streams and donate directly after the conclusion of the Proleague, announcing in the text-to-speech that it was a donation from Player X's stream. Sometimes this is delayed to the next day as the donator fell asleep during the Proleague and didn't know the results til the next day.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
October 02 2023 04:26 GMT
#8
Who is JSA_Dream? and you might as well exclude SC2 players from this list, I can't find any of them.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3116 Posts
October 02 2023 11:19 GMT
#9
He's head of the JSA uni. Just a popular Afreeca streamer who is interested in BW (there are many of them)
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-10-02 19:56:17
October 02 2023 19:54 GMT
#10
This is really impressive to see, thanks so much for sharing. Really cool that Proleague and K-league help to redistribute some of those donations to some players that are super skilled but terrible at getting their own donations (queen, light, etc) and helps keep the scene alive. Hopefully it can be figured out how to flow that even more downstream to younger/fresher blood and still keep the older generation engaged/paid to keep going.

I'm a huge calm fan but it's insane to me that dude is making over $250k a year in donations for mostly playing UMS games lol. Guess he's just a super fun guy to watch/hang out with?
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