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Can ZZZero Keep Organizing BW Tours Full Time ? - Page 4

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Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
November 23 2022 02:51 GMT
#61
Just checked the ASL Patreon, CA$13,937... wow. I love Tastosis as much as most but seeing theirs at 10x BSL's is a bit frustrating.

The foreign scene absolutely needs zzzero's contributions; I hope people pitch in what they can here (every dollar helps guys).
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-26 04:31:37
November 26 2022 04:31 GMT
#62
On November 23 2022 11:51 Mazer wrote:
Just checked the ASL Patreon, CA$13,937... wow. I love Tastosis as much as most but seeing theirs at 10x BSL's is a bit frustrating.

The foreign scene absolutely needs zzzero's contributions; I hope people pitch in what they can here (every dollar helps guys).


Obviously nice if many pitch in.

Longer term (2-5 yrs) I intend to be in a position where I'm much more able to fund BW stuff especially for foreign scene.

But....the quoted stuff is the expected result. Tastosis is absolutely huge across multiple games, and have long been the top of the hierarchy for casting and not just for BW. It's the inevitable result of names that are likely 10x or 50x as big.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4273 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-26 09:33:51
November 26 2022 09:32 GMT
#63
post made by DiMiaN in the CMNSL thread -

"Was curious about the tl.net logo...

[image loading]

Question: If TL.net supports a korean tournament, why not support BSL?"

I'm seconding the question..
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1794 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-27 12:38:44
November 27 2022 12:38 GMT
#64
On November 26 2022 18:32 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
post made by DiMiaN in the CMNSL thread -

"Was curious about the tl.net logo...

[image loading]

Question: If TL.net supports a korean tournament, why not support BSL?"

I'm seconding the question..


All the budget goes into broader content creation like this, I guess: twitter.com
LML
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-07 21:03:36
December 07 2022 21:00 GMT
#65
[image loading]

Thanks to Mr. Radley help we added every supporter of BSL16 Goal on our webpage!
_
We just hitted ~$1000 on Patreon!

I would like to thank all of you for supporting BSL so much ! <3

P.S. I'm thinking about getting back to half-time job, in order to continue if we will reach $1500

It might mean that we will have to decrease the amount of events, but we will keep the BSL ProLeague alive.
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Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
251 Posts
December 07 2022 21:42 GMT
#66
2v2 BSL tournament was so cool. Any chance of another?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17722 Posts
December 07 2022 23:52 GMT
#67
On October 30 2022 14:16 XenOsky wrote:
u shud move to latam...
2.5k / month is hella money here.

ATVI moved some of its Dev Studios to upstate New YOrk where one can make 90K and be the sole income earner in a family that owns a fully detached house less than 15 minutes from the office.
ATVI significantly lowered lower employee pay and while improving quality of life.
Upstate New York has some of the lowest energy prices in NA. Its awesome.

Go Buffalo Bills Go!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1262 Posts
December 08 2022 03:57 GMT
#68
Zzzero, look into finding a 4-day week job. There are plenty going around these days, would give you enough monetary safety for your family and would free up some days for BSL work.

It's very difficult to make it work with a full-week work schedule and a separate job at the same time basically. I've tried in the distant past and it sucked really hard.
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-08 19:19:19
December 08 2022 19:17 GMT
#69
On December 08 2022 06:42 Optimate wrote:
2v2 BSL tournament was so cool. Any chance of another?


Yes, we are willing to organize Season 2, but we didn't meet the donation goal for the prizepool and production.

If anyone is interested in sponsoring this event, PM me.

On December 08 2022 12:57 oxKnu wrote:
Zzzero, look into finding a 4-day week job. There are plenty going around these days, would give you enough monetary safety for your family and would free up some days for BSL work.

It's very difficult to make it work with a full-week work schedule and a separate job at the same time basically. I've tried in the distant past and it sucked really hard.


Well, before BSL I have been working in a 5-day week job for all the 5 years of doing it. I'm sure I can't continue this anymore, cuz it's too hardcore. Finding 4-day week job means that I would work 4 days, and then 3 days on BSL - which means that I will have no weekends / free days = time to rest, spend time with Oliwka etc.

I will probably come back to my old job, with 2 days a week. Which will give me time to stream 2 days a week, plus have 1-2 days for managing things needed for streams, take care of production issues, add all the posts etc.

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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 17 2022 19:18 GMT
#70
On October 31 2022 15:58 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2022 05:06 Xeln4g4 wrote:
no offense, but plannig your medium-long term family income on this (basically donation), look a bit optimistic and somehow irresponsible to me. I am not even sure there is a big enough fan base for this (2.500€/month) and it is going to be worse month after month.


Pretty sure Artosis makes tripple or more a month for just whining about Protoss.


That feeling when the biggest scrub in StarCraft history who tells people on stream to "not play StarCraft1" is given way more than the man carrying foreign StarCraft on his back for years.

Yikes.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
y2kid
Profile Joined May 2018
92 Posts
December 17 2022 20:35 GMT
#71
I seriously don't get the people saying that zzzero is a moneygrab or that 2500/mo is way too much. I agree with vir, if anything Zzzero has underestimated the value heavily in order to make a realistic goal. It's really not cool and doesn't bring any hounour to the keyboard warriors saying otherwise. If you claim that, tell us why.

Also one of the people above said that zzzero "doesn't work really on BSL" and the league practically runs itself. I'm sure Zzzero will be happy to let you guy in the chat manage the league that runs itself while he just backseats but the trick is if you fail you gotta pay him the monthly support :O

To the other person that suggested 4 day work week which would allow him to work 3 days on BSL, r u for real bruh? When's Zzzero gonna have time to rest? Do you work 7 days a week too?

I'm just saying these things (even though it's not my place to do so, but hey when has that stopped a guy with a keyboard) because I think zzzero is too nice to give you the "real" reply... Everyone who can afford it should support zzzero. He is funding the league, supporting his family, and trying to scrape by all with that _insane_ amount of <$2500/month. Call him Zzzero Rockefeller if he ever reaches the goal.

/Fin rant
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
December 18 2022 23:25 GMT
#72
There were few people who told me to create a cryptocurrency wallet, I finally made it.

Coinbase wallet: 3C68TASwdfzrQhBvGrZEgdEFQJkM35EE8C

I don't know if that's all you guys need, I never had any experience with it.
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engineNOVA
Profile Joined April 2021
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-28 19:59:27
December 28 2022 19:53 GMT
#73
I hope you get what you need from this, D. I agree with all the comments here that you are doing the lord's work of keeping BW a global sport, and I hope you are able to keep doing it.

There's no reason to not support this effort, and I think $1 per viewer is not too much to ask. Even $5 per month is also a very reasonable ask, in my opinion. I recognize it's not the same for everyone.

For those of you who watch BSL but don't have the funds—I'm sure there are other ways to help out. Helping make the YouTube channel a stronger money maker being one. Any YT experts out there?

You, of course, have my support, D. Looking forward to seeing BSL 16.

Good luck!
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