• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:41
CEST 21:41
KST 04:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier2Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League49Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.164Rollback Netcode in Brood War144
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins Server Blocker SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact
Tourneys
WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Do we even care about balance? BW General Discussion SCHNAIL now supports Remastered SOOP Announces New Women's Monthly Tournament Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Women's StarCraft] Tier 8 CK 2026-10-20 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11226 users

[ASL14] Ro8 Preview Pt.2 : Vacant Throne

Forum Index > BW General
9 CommentsPost a Reply

[ASL14] Ro8 Preview Pt.2 : Vacant Throne

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byv1
September 20th, 2022 04:04 GMT
ASL11 Main Image
We're kicking off the other Side of the bracket with a battle to determine who really is the next Top terran to take the currently vacant throne between (T)Light and (T)Rush, absolute masters in just just their overall Terran play but also in the Terran vs Terran matchup.

In the final Ro8 match (P)Snow and (Z)hero face off as both players have sharpened their skills in the Protoss vs Zerg matchup through the season against multiple opponents, this will be a clash to see who takes home the crown for PvZ/ZvP.

Group A Preview

The One below The One


There is a war amongst Terran players in this ASL. (T)Light is King John, here to hold the Terran crown while (R)Flash, King Richard, has gone to fight for Kingdom and Glory. (T)Rush, assuming the role of Robin Hood, is here to show the world Light is but an imposter, unworthy of the Terran crown. In the first season of Flash’s absence, Rush got his first chance to show Light as a fool. He knocked Light out of the group stages. In response, Light grew into an unstoppable force, paving his way to an ASL 13 championship. Since Rush’s victory, the two players have avoided playing each other in offline matches. Each player has grown stronger and more refined in their game than they have ever been. Now it’s time for Rush to serve justice for all layviewers and players alike.

Over the last 3 months, (T)Light has won nearly 70% of his TvTs. His incredible winrate in TvT continues to underperform against (T)Rush. Light has only won 20% of his games against Rush in that same time frame. Rush has a much lower overall winning percentage versus Terran. The silver lining, Rush has competed in 60 more online matches than Light. The extra practice is going to pay off tremendously as they face off against each other.

(Wiki)Butter comes out as the first map between the two. This two player map is well suited for the risk-taker style player. From what we’ve seen lately, (T)Rush is willing to become that risk taker. He is much more likely to disguise an aggressive opening that will catch (T)Light off guard. With even the smallest advantages going Rush’s way, he will take map one.

(Wiki)Allegro seems so much more like a (T)Light map. Light plays excellent in the map splitting game. Time and again he has put (R)Flash to the test when he can establish his half of the map. No matter the spawns, Light will surgically split this map and weaponize his macro engine to wear down (T)Rush. As “GG” is called the irony here is that Light picked map 1 and Rush picked map 2. It feels like these players are picking maps for their opponents rather than themselves. Map 2 goes to Light.

Back to the 2 player maps, (T)Light has an opportunity to prey on (T)Rush using the map (Wiki)Odyssey. This time Light’s map pick and preparation will pay off for him. Rush has a bad record online with (Wiki)Odyssey. Not only does he lose online in the TvT matchup on that map, but he’s losing a lot to all races on Odyssey. This map is a golden opportunity for Light to go up 2-1.

The fourth map is play out on (Wiki)Vermeer. This is (T)Rush’s map pick and the last remaining logical map pick Terran could make. Therefore, this map offers no advantage to Rush. Looking back at Rush’s boX matches, he does not have a history of losing easily. Several times he has let a player win two maps only to bounce back and take a win. But he is facing (T)Light who is on the verge of historic winning percentages versus Terran and Protoss as a non-Flash player. Light is going to show on the fourth map that he will not suffer from the honey moon slump (he was recently married) and once again advance to the quarterfinals.

(T)Light Advances to the Ro4 3-1!

Group B Preview

Super hero: Snow Way Home


(P)Snow and (Z)hero have already had some impressive shows in the PvZ matchup so far just in this season alone so much so that we are guaranteed to see an excellent series from both players.

(Z)hero has always been a ZvP specialist, the way he dismantled (P)Mini by taking advantage of (Wiki)Neo Arkanoid in a way that really showed how one sided the map is in ZvP. On top of that mentioning in his post match interview that his build had a 100% success rate on the map till that point.

(P)Snow is also coming off a few big wins in the matchup having gone through (Z)Shine in the Ro24 and then absolutely carving up his Ro16 group based on his games against (Z)Soma and (Z)ZerO, his only loss coming against (Z)ZerO in the winner’s game on, you guessed it, (Wiki)Neo Arkanoid, but the rest of his games absolutely showed how much knowledge and control he has over the matchup easily ranking up there with Bisu.

Interesting to note that (P)Snow and (Z)hero’s head to head in online games overall sits right now at 80-80, with (Z)hero being (P)Snow’s biggest rival overall in his online play and sponmatches. The last few times that (P)Snow and (Z)hero faced off online, however (P)Snow went 7-2.

In their ASL history however, (Z)hero has won all but 1 encounter thus far with their last meeting in the ASL11 Ro8 where (Z)hero won against (P)Snow 3-1.

Unlike the other PvZ in the Ro8, this series features both (Wiki)Allegro and (Wiki)Neo Arkanoid, but what is important is the placement of (Wiki)Neo Arkanoid being the 5th and final map, meaning that not only did neither player choose to pick it but that neither player chose to ban it either and should the series go to game 5 it stacks the entire series in favor of (Z)hero. Allegro being on the pool does give (P)Snow some breathing room but the core of the series will be decided on who wins the other maps, but it must be stressed that (P)Snow must prevent a game 5, to avoid playing against big odds.

All in all with the map advantage and their offline history, I’m sticking with (Z)hero, but I will not be surprised if (P)Snow manages to crack (Z)hero without getting a chance to see (Wiki)Neo Arkanoid.

(Z)hero Advances to the Ro4!



Writers: BLinD-RawR, BisuDagger
Graphics: v1
Editors: BLinD-RawR

Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1628 Posts
September 20 2022 13:25 GMT
#2
Give ur energy to Hero! FOR THE SWARM! FOR THE HIVE! \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
September 20 2022 13:54 GMT
#3
if it actually goes to game 5 and hero still loses....my dude cannot fuck this up.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 20 2022 16:20 GMT
#4
Great writeup yet again. Nice catchy titles albeit with contrasting styles - BD going for classic (the one below the one), BR topping up with cheesy (snow way home). You guys make a good combo!
gg no re thx
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
September 20 2022 16:29 GMT
#5
BD doesn't do the titles, thats me.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
333 Posts
September 20 2022 17:15 GMT
#6
Snow's gotta a 33% chance. I'm rooting so hard for him! We must get a golden ratio in the semis.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
September 20 2022 18:21 GMT
#7
On September 21 2022 01:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
BD doesn't do the titles, thats me.


Ah, that explains the coordinated MCU theme!
gg no re thx
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3389 Posts
September 20 2022 19:45 GMT
#8
I think the rule for this round is each player picks a map after the other. The last map is random. There's no option to ban.
Understandably, Snow picked Oddysey and Nemesis, Hero picked Allegro and Vermeer. Hence we see Arkanoid for game 5.

Also Allegro/Largo has been auto-banned by Protoss for 3 seasons now. Not sure how it got mistaken to be a Protoss favored map.
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom253 Posts
September 21 2022 07:42 GMT
#9
Go Snow Go
Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom253 Posts
September 21 2022 07:42 GMT
#10
Very interesting to hear that Snow and Hero are great spon rivals. Hard to get closer than 80 vs 80!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
01:00
Replay Cast Group A
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 565
UpATreeSC 98
BRAT_OK 44
JuggernautJason43
MindelVK 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 631
Dewaltoss 154
ProTech153
Mind 85
Zeus 51
Dota 2
syndereN156
Counter-Strike
fl0m1550
Fnx 1061
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0167
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3616
Liquid`Hasu401
Trikslyr94
Other Games
summit1g1569
FrodaN922
Beastyqt743
B2W.Neo487
Pyrionflax205
Railgan5
Organizations
Other Games
WardiTV241
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 40
• Reevou 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 24
• 80smullet 19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade406
Other Games
• imaqtpie938
• Shiphtur643
• WagamamaTV322
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 49m
The PondCast
14h 19m
Kung Fu Cup
15h 19m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 15h
Reynor vs Zoun
Neeb vs Rogue
FEL
3 days
Patches Events
3 days
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
IPSL Winter 2026-27
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.