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Anyone use Razor Viper Mini?

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Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 00:54 GMT
#1
Is it larger or smaller than fk mini2?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-05 01:46:18
December 05 2021 01:39 GMT
#2
bigger but it's a gr8 mouse, it's categorized as a small mouse but relatively speaking it's on the larger end in the category

11.7cm in lenght // 5.45cm in width
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-05 01:50:04
December 05 2021 01:48 GMT
#3
On December 05 2021 10:39 TT1 wrote:
bigger but it's a gr8 mouse, it's categorized as a small mouse but relatively speaking it's on the bigger end in the category

11.7cm in lenght // 5.45cm in width


Believe Viper Mini has optical switches. How are you liking the clicks? What are the cons if any in your opinion?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
December 05 2021 02:02 GMT
#4
switches are good, very light to press/good for rts

no real downside, would be nice if it was a bit lighter but it's still only 60g
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
December 05 2021 02:51 GMT
#5
i have one. it's pretty good for starcraft. the optical clickies are nice, and the mouse feels good in my small hands.

if you don't have small hands i advise against it, just for comfort reasons.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 06:12 GMT
#6
Awesome, getting one tomorrow
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 05 2021 12:06 GMT
#7
I use it sometimes. Yes, bigger than FKmini series.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 17:23 GMT
#8
On December 05 2021 21:06 LaStScan wrote:
I use it sometimes. Yes, bigger than FKmini series.


How do you feel about it so far?
LinYu_roy
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany21 Posts
December 05 2021 17:28 GMT
#9
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 19:36 GMT
#10
On December 06 2021 02:28 LinYu_roy wrote:
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.


Ahhh ya I had my eye on that one too. Why do you prefer it? The biggest reason I liked the MM710 more than the Viper is because it doesn't have the big hump. Never been a fan of mice with big humps, decided to go with Viper mostly because it has a ton of hype behind it. Also, never tried optical switches and quite frankly I'm tired of having to replace my mouse because of double clicks. I thought it was just me but from what Ive read on reddit it's a common occurrence with Omron switches and these days, Omrons are practically on every mouse. Apparently optical switches neutralizes that problem.
LinYu_roy
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany21 Posts
December 11 2021 16:10 GMT
#11
On December 06 2021 04:36 Cheesefome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2021 02:28 LinYu_roy wrote:
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.


Ahhh ya I had my eye on that one too. Why do you prefer it? The biggest reason I liked the MM710 more than the Viper is because it doesn't have the big hump. Never been a fan of mice with big humps, decided to go with Viper mostly because it has a ton of hype behind it. Also, never tried optical switches and quite frankly I'm tired of having to replace my mouse because of double clicks. I thought it was just me but from what Ive read on reddit it's a common occurrence with Omron switches and these days, Omrons are practically on every mouse. Apparently optical switches neutralizes that problem.


I like MM710 because it is among the lightest mice I can easily get my hands on. I have used many mice. (Kinda a mouse/keyboard enthusiast. Mouse for gaming; Keyboard for gaming but also typing.) If we want (a) decent build quality, (b) light-weight, (c) easily replaceable, and maybe (d) reasonably priced, there aren't that many choices.

Between MM710 and Viper Mini: Mini's switches are better. Of course "better" can be subjective, but I would say Mini's switches for sure sound better. Theoretically, optical switches also last longer. MM710, on the other hand, is 8g lighter. For many, 8g is not much; But if you play intensively, as what BW requires, the difference can be felt easily. Putting in another word, if you play with a light mouse, it is super hard, if not impossible, for you to switch to a heavier one. MM710's switches are also decent.

There are of course other good mouses. fkmini, for example, has a big following in the BW community. But personally, I don't see why. It is a rather outdated mouse, especially if you use your mouse not only for BW. Then again, all these can just be a personal opinion.

CoolerMaster has an even light mouse, MM720, which is only 49g. You might want to take a look as well. I haven't tried it myself yet.
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada495 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 16:34:30
December 11 2021 16:31 GMT
#12
On December 12 2021 01:10 LinYu_roy wrote:
CoolerMaster has an even light mouse, MM720, which is only 49g. You might want to take a look as well. I haven't tried it myself yet.


I use an MM720 and its great. the grip is perfect and I no longer have finger pain when playing SC. Also the software is nice to use and you can change mouse DPI in increments of 100.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10831 Posts
December 11 2021 20:59 GMT
#13
I have the viper mini and the regular viper and I do prefer the viper mini over the regular viper, as I have small hands. I like it better than the logitech MX models because it is a lot more light weight, over all it is one of my favorite mice I have used for RTS. It reminds me of the old Korean mouse by KTEC.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10052 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 21:28:15
December 11 2021 21:25 GMT
#14
Shape-wise i prefer the MM710 but Razer has better build quality, almost all the CM mice i've owned had quality control issues (either the sides creak, mouse buttons are wobbly etc.). That's my experience from like 1-2 years ago so it might have gotten better.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 12 2021 03:12 GMT
#15
Really starting to love my Viper Mini. Not going to lie when i first started playing with it, absolutely hated the shell and the width of it but man... I can understand the hype behind it. It's decent quality, perfect for small hands, low budget. The cord is nice too, the clicks feel beautiful and sturdy, they dont feel like something that is just going to break in a few months. I must emphasize that it's a very thin mouse so anyone with med-large hands might have a hard time playing with it. This is coming from someone who has elf-sized hands. Also does take some time to get accustomed to it if you're coming from the fkmini2 or any egg shaped mouse. It's mostly the width feels unusual/new.

4/5 Mouse for me, and to my surprise, like it more than my fkmini2.
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