• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:47
CET 05:47
KST 13:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion What happened to TvZ on Retro? Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2042 users

Anyone use Razor Viper Mini?

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 00:54 GMT
#1
Is it larger or smaller than fk mini2?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-05 01:46:18
December 05 2021 01:39 GMT
#2
bigger but it's a gr8 mouse, it's categorized as a small mouse but relatively speaking it's on the larger end in the category

11.7cm in lenght // 5.45cm in width
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-05 01:50:04
December 05 2021 01:48 GMT
#3
On December 05 2021 10:39 TT1 wrote:
bigger but it's a gr8 mouse, it's categorized as a small mouse but relatively speaking it's on the bigger end in the category

11.7cm in lenght // 5.45cm in width


Believe Viper Mini has optical switches. How are you liking the clicks? What are the cons if any in your opinion?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
December 05 2021 02:02 GMT
#4
switches are good, very light to press/good for rts

no real downside, would be nice if it was a bit lighter but it's still only 60g
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
December 05 2021 02:51 GMT
#5
i have one. it's pretty good for starcraft. the optical clickies are nice, and the mouse feels good in my small hands.

if you don't have small hands i advise against it, just for comfort reasons.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 06:12 GMT
#6
Awesome, getting one tomorrow
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
December 05 2021 12:06 GMT
#7
I use it sometimes. Yes, bigger than FKmini series.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 17:23 GMT
#8
On December 05 2021 21:06 LaStScan wrote:
I use it sometimes. Yes, bigger than FKmini series.


How do you feel about it so far?
LinYu_roy
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany21 Posts
December 05 2021 17:28 GMT
#9
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 05 2021 19:36 GMT
#10
On December 06 2021 02:28 LinYu_roy wrote:
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.


Ahhh ya I had my eye on that one too. Why do you prefer it? The biggest reason I liked the MM710 more than the Viper is because it doesn't have the big hump. Never been a fan of mice with big humps, decided to go with Viper mostly because it has a ton of hype behind it. Also, never tried optical switches and quite frankly I'm tired of having to replace my mouse because of double clicks. I thought it was just me but from what Ive read on reddit it's a common occurrence with Omron switches and these days, Omrons are practically on every mouse. Apparently optical switches neutralizes that problem.
LinYu_roy
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany21 Posts
December 11 2021 16:10 GMT
#11
On December 06 2021 04:36 Cheesefome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2021 02:28 LinYu_roy wrote:
Great mouse overall; The switches are awesome. I slightly prefer MM710 as it is lighter, but it is mostly a personal thing.


Ahhh ya I had my eye on that one too. Why do you prefer it? The biggest reason I liked the MM710 more than the Viper is because it doesn't have the big hump. Never been a fan of mice with big humps, decided to go with Viper mostly because it has a ton of hype behind it. Also, never tried optical switches and quite frankly I'm tired of having to replace my mouse because of double clicks. I thought it was just me but from what Ive read on reddit it's a common occurrence with Omron switches and these days, Omrons are practically on every mouse. Apparently optical switches neutralizes that problem.


I like MM710 because it is among the lightest mice I can easily get my hands on. I have used many mice. (Kinda a mouse/keyboard enthusiast. Mouse for gaming; Keyboard for gaming but also typing.) If we want (a) decent build quality, (b) light-weight, (c) easily replaceable, and maybe (d) reasonably priced, there aren't that many choices.

Between MM710 and Viper Mini: Mini's switches are better. Of course "better" can be subjective, but I would say Mini's switches for sure sound better. Theoretically, optical switches also last longer. MM710, on the other hand, is 8g lighter. For many, 8g is not much; But if you play intensively, as what BW requires, the difference can be felt easily. Putting in another word, if you play with a light mouse, it is super hard, if not impossible, for you to switch to a heavier one. MM710's switches are also decent.

There are of course other good mouses. fkmini, for example, has a big following in the BW community. But personally, I don't see why. It is a rather outdated mouse, especially if you use your mouse not only for BW. Then again, all these can just be a personal opinion.

CoolerMaster has an even light mouse, MM720, which is only 49g. You might want to take a look as well. I haven't tried it myself yet.
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada426 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 16:34:30
December 11 2021 16:31 GMT
#12
On December 12 2021 01:10 LinYu_roy wrote:
CoolerMaster has an even light mouse, MM720, which is only 49g. You might want to take a look as well. I haven't tried it myself yet.


I use an MM720 and its great. the grip is perfect and I no longer have finger pain when playing SC. Also the software is nice to use and you can change mouse DPI in increments of 100.
https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
TL+ Member
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
December 11 2021 20:59 GMT
#13
I have the viper mini and the regular viper and I do prefer the viper mini over the regular viper, as I have small hands. I like it better than the logitech MX models because it is a lot more light weight, over all it is one of my favorite mice I have used for RTS. It reminds me of the old Korean mouse by KTEC.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-12-11 21:28:15
December 11 2021 21:25 GMT
#14
Shape-wise i prefer the MM710 but Razer has better build quality, almost all the CM mice i've owned had quality control issues (either the sides creak, mouse buttons are wobbly etc.). That's my experience from like 1-2 years ago so it might have gotten better.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
December 12 2021 03:12 GMT
#15
Really starting to love my Viper Mini. Not going to lie when i first started playing with it, absolutely hated the shell and the width of it but man... I can understand the hype behind it. It's decent quality, perfect for small hands, low budget. The cord is nice too, the clicks feel beautiful and sturdy, they dont feel like something that is just going to break in a few months. I must emphasize that it's a very thin mouse so anyone with med-large hands might have a hard time playing with it. This is coming from someone who has elf-sized hands. Also does take some time to get accustomed to it if you're coming from the fkmini2 or any egg shaped mouse. It's mostly the width feels unusual/new.

4/5 Mouse for me, and to my surprise, like it more than my fkmini2.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 215
NeuroSwarm 181
Nina 112
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 1215
PianO 505
Larva 284
NaDa 36
Bale 21
Noble 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever504
League of Legends
JimRising 625
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0675
Other Games
summit1g14885
ViBE154
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1004
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• Sammyuel 48
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1343
• Lourlo531
• Stunt329
Other Games
• Shiphtur172
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 13m
RSL Revival
5h 13m
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
7h 13m
Cure vs Reynor
Classic vs herO
IPSL
12h 13m
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
OSC
14h 13m
BSL 21
15h 13m
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 5h
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
1d 7h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 7h
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
1d 15h
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
1d 15h
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL: GosuLeague
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL: GosuLeague
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.