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Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 18:23:31
June 18 2021 18:12 GMT
#1
Hello all. I am searching for an old micro map that is Goons vs M&M. I used to see quite a few iccup pros play it to practice dragoon micro against bio. It had 2 rounds.

1 was like 6 goons against 14 marines, 2 medics, and 2 firebats

4 goons against like 10 marines and 2 medics.

It was a Korean language ums map.
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
June 18 2021 22:39 GMT
#2
Can't help you with finding this map but tbh that seems kind of useless. In a real game vs bio, terran would push out with a much larger army. Your goon army should just be looking to force stims and run away maybe picking off stray marines if they wander too far forward while you buy time for reavers. Reaver control is the actually relevant anti-bio micro you need to practice.
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 22:45:20
June 18 2021 22:45 GMT
#3
Ever seen Tempest versus Light? Or how about any high level 2v2 PZ against TZ game where T went bio?
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
June 18 2021 23:54 GMT
#4
On June 19 2021 07:39 ArmadA[NaS] wrote:
Can't help you with finding this map but tbh that seems kind of useless. In a real game vs bio, terran would push out with a much larger army. Your goon army should just be looking to force stims and run away maybe picking off stray marines if they wander too far forward while you buy time for reavers. Reaver control is the actually relevant anti-bio micro you need to practice.


Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone have some recommended protoss micro maps in general, whether for reaver vs bio or otherwise?
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
June 19 2021 01:29 GMT
#5
On June 19 2021 07:45 Optimate wrote:
Ever seen Tempest versus Light? Or how about any high level 2v2 PZ against TZ game where T went bio?

Haha something tells me you would do better to improve your fundamentals more than worrying about some awfully niche Dragoon vs. M&M interaction.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada472 Posts
June 19 2021 03:55 GMT
#6
Rather than purport to advise you, or give you gratuitous advice, I'll just try to answer your original question.

Did you check out (Wiki)Micro Training Maps ?

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
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Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
June 19 2021 04:01 GMT
#7
Yes. The map I am looking for is not on there.
att
Profile Joined March 2020
128 Posts
June 19 2021 09:39 GMT
#8
The nexus maps can offer something similar but i remember playing p v z one, not sure if theres a t v p one
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
June 19 2021 22:23 GMT
#9
I can't believe nobody remembers this map.

It had 6 goons against 12 marines, 2 firebats, and 2 medics.

It also had another round of 4 goons against like 10 marines and 2 medics.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-20 11:46:28
June 20 2021 11:46 GMT
#10
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
June 20 2021 13:31 GMT
#11
On June 20 2021 20:46 kogeT wrote:
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.

Or a practice partner with save game states! That would be more ""realistic,"" no?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
June 20 2021 19:28 GMT
#12
On June 20 2021 22:31 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2021 20:46 kogeT wrote:
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.

Or a practice partner with save game states! That would be more ""realistic,"" no?



Not sure who would want to practice that as terran though. ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
June 20 2021 21:32 GMT
#13
On June 21 2021 04:28 kogeT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2021 22:31 Jealous wrote:
On June 20 2021 20:46 kogeT wrote:
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.

Or a practice partner with save game states! That would be more ""realistic,"" no?



Not sure who would want to practice that as terran though. ;-)

Skyhigh on Pamir Plateau? Or who was it? :'D
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
250 Posts
June 22 2021 02:05 GMT
#14
On June 21 2021 06:32 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2021 04:28 kogeT wrote:
On June 20 2021 22:31 Jealous wrote:
On June 20 2021 20:46 kogeT wrote:
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.

Or a practice partner with save game states! That would be more ""realistic,"" no?



Not sure who would want to practice that as terran though. ;-)

Skyhigh on Pamir Plateau? Or who was it? :'D

Let me know if you think of who was in that game it sounds good.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10322 Posts
June 22 2021 18:41 GMT
#15
On June 22 2021 11:05 Optimate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2021 06:32 Jealous wrote:
On June 21 2021 04:28 kogeT wrote:
On June 20 2021 22:31 Jealous wrote:
On June 20 2021 20:46 kogeT wrote:
Sounds like you can practice that vs terran AIs just going mass goon vs them.

Or a practice partner with save game states! That would be more ""realistic,"" no?



Not sure who would want to practice that as terran though. ;-)

Skyhigh on Pamir Plateau? Or who was it? :'D

Let me know if you think of who was in that game it sounds good.

Skyhigh didn't play on Pamir Plateau (I think it might have been Central Plains that I was thinking of, anyway... Will need to investigate). In the meantime:

https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/813_Nal_rA_vs_UpMaGiC/vod
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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