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[ASTL2] Power Rank

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January 14th, 2021 03:12 GMT
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Having undergone structural changes and essentially wiping the slate clean, the ASTL is coming back in full force on the 17th of January. 6 teams, 26 players, ~18.5k$ up for grabs - the ASTL is an attempt to bring back team-based pride once lost. But is it the right way to go about it? Time will tell as AfreecaTV have listened to the voice of the people and adjusted the format to make the league feel both more prestigious and less inclusive than the first season. With a reduced team count, a smaller number of players per roster (and all together, duh), as well as essentially no continuity in a team identity context between seasons, it feels to me AfreecaTV are moving away from what seemed like an attempt to one day rebuild a system akin to Proleague from days past to straight-up reinventing the wheel of team-based competition. While undoubtedly a more sensible short-term decision from a financial perspective, I feel the approach they took in season 1 of the ASTL fostered long-term growth by providing opportunities for showcasing one's keyboard and mouse expertise to a wider spectrum of player and not just the regulars. While a single paragraph's worth of rant doesn't necessarily do justice to my thoughts on the matter, I don't feel the need to subject anyone to a more detailed write-up, so I'll just end this with a TLDR (lest my intentions go misinterpreted):

ASTL GOOD, BUT ASTL1 > ASTL2 (PROBABLY).

Since I've been feeling particularly confrontational recently I decided to look at the upcoming season of the AfreecaTV StarCraft Team League and compose a Power Rank of the participating rosters to see just how many people I manage to upset with my personal and biased take on things.
While coming up with this list there were two factors that specifically made it look the way it does. Firstly, the groupstage is a round-robin; secondly, each match is a Bo5 (as opposed to the Bo7 format of season 1). We've done away with upset-conducive 2v2s and 3v3s in favour of straight up, Proleague style 1v1 Bo5s. This means every single map counts more than it would have had they stuck with the original format. And that in turn means beating Flash & co. becomes ever so difficult.

(ASL Power Level = ASL9 + ASL10 pts)

 

#1: eSport.fund (Flash, Soulkey, Action, free, Pusan)
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ASL Power Level:

(T)Flash: 2,850
(Z)Soulkey: 1,450
(Z)Action: 1,400
(P)free: 500
(P)Pusan: 0

Captain: 2,850
Team: 3,350
Total: 6,200


Sure, it might just be me shilling Rus_brain, hoping the eSport.fund team becomes a permanent fixture and picks up a bunch of foreigners. But considering the roster (and the aforementioned format changes), selling another team as the #1 rank going into this season would be a tall order. Flash, Soulkey, Action, free, and Pusan (for the oh-so-needed fan factor I guess - kudos whoever's responsible, nice one). Also I'm not 100% sure whether it's been confirmed if Flash will play as random as there have been rumours going around he might switch back to Terran full time. We'll see. Either way, scary stuff.

 

#2: Karariyo (Snow, Best, JyJ, Shuttle, FBH)
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ASL Power Level:

(P)Snow: 1,450
(P)Best: 1,450
(T)JyJ: 770
(P)Shuttle: 500
(T)firebathero: 270

Captain: 1,450
Team: 2,990
Total: 4,440

If I understood what Snow said about picking Best (and chances are I didn't, Korean is hard) was he knows that in order to win this league, at some point they'll have to beat Flash and he believes Best is the right man for the job. I think a lot of people are sleeping on JyJ and Shuttle, both of whom have shown real promise in recent times. In addition to that, Snow also exercised his liberty to add players to his roster post-draft by picking up firebathero, the architect of Charariyo Buffalos' success in season 1 (Charariyo? Karariyo? Hmm.) Also the consensus seems to be Protoss is kind of 사기 right now and these guys have three of them.

 

#3: Socrates Tteokbokki (Larva, Bisu, sSak, Killer)
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ASL Power Level:

(Z)Larva: 2,400
(P)Bisu: 1,200
(Z)Killer: 570
(Z)beast: 570
(T)sSak: 300

Captain: 2,400
Team: 2,640
Total: 5,040

Believe it or not, tteokbokki is actually my favourite Korean dish (though arguably I've only ever had store-bought on account of me being proper skint). I was going back and forth between the #3 and #4 teams on this list and I figured picking these guys over #4 solely for being sponsored by a rice cake joint is as valid a reason as any. Also the premise of putting together a team of ex-SKT veterans seemed like a cool idea (storytelling-wise). Shame Larva didn't go through with it, Killer doesn't seem like that big of a deal anyway.

 

#4: LOGINmedia (ZerO, Stork, Rush, MisO)
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ASL Power Level:

(Z)ZerO: 7,600
(T)Rush: 1,270
(P)Stork: 1,200
(Z)MIsO: 0
(T)BrAvO : 0

Captain: 7,600
Team: 2,470
Total: 10,070

I'm glad ZerO gave Rush the respect he so rightfully deserves for being good at playing the hardest race in the game. The reason I put these guys this low, however, is that I think Stork has fallen out of favour with a lot of people, most notably for his mental breakdown during the team draft last season. On top of that, while he does arguably keep producing decent results, he's become far too predictable for my liking. That said, if they manage to get a number of favourable lineup pairs in the round-robin they could probably set themselves up for a finish far better than one would expect reading my drivel.

 

#5: AfreecaTV (Soma, sOrry, EffOrt, Sharp)
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ASL Power Level:

(Z)Soma: 3,850
(T)Sharp: 750
(T)Sorry: 570
(Z)EffOrt: 0
(P)Ruin : 0

Captain: 3,850
Team: 1,320
Total: 5,170

EffOrt might be the biggest mystery factor in the league and as such I believe we'll have to keep a close eye on him and him alone if this AfreecaTV roster want to get far in the league. While Soma deserves a lot of praise for having risen through the ranks in this chapter of the post-KeSPA era, I'm questioning his motives behind grabbing as many as two Terrans for his team. Just look at the mappool. I veto half of those maps on ladder.

 

#6: emTek Casters Inc. (Light, Mini, hero, PianO)
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ASL Power Level:

(T)Light: 2,750
(P)Mini: 770
(Z)hero: 500
(Z)Shine : 300
(T)PianO: 0

Captain: 2,750
Team: 1,370
Total: 4,320

Similar situation to #5 except they don't have EffOrt.

 

--- Bonus ---

ASL Power Level (Captain + Team)

#1: LOGINmedia
#2: eSport.fund
#3: AfreecaTV
#4: Socrates Tteokbokki
#5: Karariyo
#6: emTek Casters Inc.

ASL Power Level (Team only)

#1: eSport.fund
#2: Karariyo
#3: LOGINmedia
#4: Socrates Tteokbokki
#5: emTek Casters Inc.
#6: AfreecaTV

 

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January 14 2021 03:14 GMT
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January 14 2021 03:56 GMT
#3
I just now realized Esports.fund got the Sponsorship! Go Rus_Brain!!!!
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January 14 2021 05:05 GMT
#4
eSport.fund FTW!!
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Finland1838 Posts
January 14 2021 05:25 GMT
#5
I think the AfreecaTV team could be NASTY if EffOrt has somewhat regained his form. All excellent players.
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SlimZerg
Profile Joined January 2021
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January 14 2021 06:58 GMT
#6
Interesting to try to estimate power level...
But I really dont understand level 0 for Piano and Effort.
Piano has performed recently verry well (eg CMSL4...) and Effort stay a high level player and a real threat for others.
How did you get individual power levels ?
bos)Kulik
Profile Joined October 2020
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January 14 2021 07:36 GMT
#7
dont know if it was discussed somewhere else, but have you seen Best killing flash?
Best has stream on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFHUplScMiWTjJrtv4hxWmg
it can be found there, I like how best changed PvT and it is more oldschool, pre Anytime era.
No arbiter, just gon/lot and looooot of Storms.
He uses Shuttles with HT for SCV harras as well as for killing the army and it seems it works again 3-3 200/200 mech...
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
January 14 2021 08:10 GMT
#8
On January 14 2021 15:58 SlimZerg wrote:
Interesting to try to estimate power level...
But I really dont understand level 0 for Piano and Effort.
Piano has performed recently verry well (eg CMSL4...) and Effort stay a high level player and a real threat for others.
How did you get individual power levels ?


note to self: just because something is put in bold, singled out, and double the font size doesn't mean people will notice
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JieXian
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Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-14 08:25:09
January 14 2021 08:24 GMT
#9
damn esports.fund represent!
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Timebon3s
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Norway763 Posts
January 14 2021 10:57 GMT
#10
Will there be eng commentary of this? prettyplz?
SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
January 14 2021 11:01 GMT
#11
Holy shit Rus_brain wow! You're gonna win ASTL and have Flash on your team.

Flash wins cuz it's Flash. Action, soulkey can beat everyone else. Free recently beat Larva 5-4, looks a lot stronger than he was in ASTL1.

I can't see any team compete with them.
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Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China186 Posts
January 14 2021 12:25 GMT
#12
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Anyone else remember Bravo? He joined zero's team.
masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
January 14 2021 13:00 GMT
#13
On January 14 2021 21:25 Zergxhx wrote:
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Anyone else remember Bravo? He joined zero's team.


(Wiki)BrAvO

Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-14 13:58:08
January 14 2021 13:05 GMT
#14
oh cool obv they had to go pick up more players right after id already written this ting

will have the op fixed in a sec
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Ikirouta
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Finland738 Posts
January 14 2021 13:24 GMT
#15
gogo team esport fund!
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10277 Posts
January 14 2021 16:14 GMT
#16
On January 14 2021 19:57 Timebon3s wrote:
Will there be eng commentary of this? prettyplz?

Not unless you want a massive fat copyright strike claim against you, though SaiyanSC has been getting away with it lately. Maybe he'll do something with it.
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Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
January 14 2021 16:55 GMT
#17
On January 15 2021 01:14 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2021 19:57 Timebon3s wrote:
Will there be eng commentary of this? prettyplz?

Not unless you want a massive fat copyright strike claim against you, though SaiyanSC has been getting away with it lately. Maybe he'll do something with it.

Didn't Moletrap say he'd do it if there wasn't official english casting?
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4230 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-14 18:07:49
January 14 2021 18:06 GMT
#18
free only getting 500?

lmao, somebody is not watching a lot of BW lately I presume

guy has been tearing it up lately from what I've seen

Really hoping that eSport.fund will win, or at least make it to the playoffs

FIGHTING!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
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January 14 2021 19:03 GMT
#19
On January 15 2021 03:06 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
free only getting 500?

lmao, somebody is not watching a lot of BW lately I presume

guy has been tearing it up lately from what I've seen

Really hoping that eSport.fund will win, or at least make it to the playoffs

FIGHTING!

Or you could actually read the OP but I guess that is too much to ask of you.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19302 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-14 19:55:13
January 14 2021 19:54 GMT
#20
Soma's team is a huge wild card. I completely underestimated him in the last ASL. He really gives off a strong Effort/JD vibe when he plays. I think between him and Effort Terran's might be in big trouble. A team Soma vs team Snow finals could be possible given the maps. I could also see team Snow losing all their matches lol.
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