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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6779 Posts
August 13 2020 22:51 GMT
#1
So this idea comes from something similar I've seen in chess: Advanced/Cyborg/Centaur Chess where you get to check an engine while playing vs another person. It's a bit obsolete nowadays since engines are that far ahead of humans, but it could be applied to bw in interesting ways.

Seeing as how BW AI's have become more commonplace, it could be cool to explore how a human and bot could be combined together to battle against another human+bot. Obviously stuff like maphacks or any other type of game-breaking stuff isn't allowed. The bot only has access to the same stuff you do. That means it can make micro and macro "easier", which I'm assuming would make the player able to focus more on strategic choices.

Off the top of my head in terms of rules I'm guessing you'd be allowed to interface with it through text commands, some kind of gui or maybe even voicecommands? Or you'd teach it to respond to your inputs predictively, or just set up simple rules,... It all depends on how you wanna achieve the "symbiosis".

Because of the different approaches possible I think it could be a whole new type of game/competition with an arms race of "who has the best AI" (and works together with it efficiently/strategically), and it's so much easier to connect with than just a pure independent AI vs AI battle.

Any thoughts? Has this been tried before?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
August 13 2020 22:57 GMT
#2
i would like an AI that types "from" and chats randomly to distract my opponent as i allin
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51418 Posts
August 14 2020 04:18 GMT
#3
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Korea (South)65 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-08-14 08:14:19
August 14 2020 08:12 GMT
#4
We just had one but for SC2, notably also with participation of 3 GMs:

https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/560769-announcing-the-ex1a-al
https://tl.net/forum/sc2-strategy/561703-ex1a-al-centaur-meta-discussion
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6779 Posts
August 14 2020 12:40 GMT
#5
Cool! I really don't know anything about the SC2 meta so I can't really tell how big the effect of this is. What did you think of the results?
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 14 2020 13:09 GMT
#6
On August 14 2020 07:57 Hot_Bid wrote:
i would like an AI that types "from" and chats randomly to distract my opponent as i allin


Oh my gawd, A rank ez pz. Nobody will be able to see my proxy 9/9 coming.
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