[ASL9] Ro8 Preview Pt 2: War on Shakuras
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whylessness
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weiliem
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Akio
Finland1824 Posts
With that said my guess is Stork and Soma. | ||
FakeFin
Germany386 Posts
On April 04 2020 18:12 weiliem wrote: Soma <3 The rising star and possible royal roader? :D Soma also qualified last season, so no royal roader | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES48987 Posts
also fuck protoss. | ||
Lakaboss
China4 Posts
On April 04 2020 03:48 Djabanete wrote: Raise your hand if in 2010 you were expecting a major-league Ro8 to contain Flash, Bisu, and Stork (and Zero, Light, and Action) in 2020. I predict all TBLS ASL top 4 in 2030. Just leaving this here so I can necro it in 2030. Also nobody uses mutas in ZvZ anymore after somebody figured how to micro hydras against them. | ||
TornadoSteve
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On April 04 2020 03:48 Djabanete wrote: Raise your hand if in 2010 you were expecting a major-league Ro8 to contain Flash, Bisu, and Stork (and Zero, Light, and Action) in 2020. Jaedong Bisu fighting! | ||
PVJ
Hungary5051 Posts
I just watched him against FlaSh I think he has good chance of making it to Ro4. It's funny how this argument is always put as arbiter vs carriers when in fact there was time when he was the first and the best to win w/ late-game Arbiter excellence. I'd say he just prefers or gets more utility out of carriers, not like he can't make it work w/ Arbiters. I think there will be at least 1 game he goes for it. On the other side -- is someone watching Soma's stream regularly? How does his play feel? I saw him vs. Snow and it seemed like he would be able to dominate Bisu too always engaging only when it suits him, not getting rushed into positions he is uncomfortable in. I'll take my chances and say he will get through. On April 05 2020 02:30 TornadoSteve wrote: really look like a full zerg ro8 for flash You mean Action -> Larva -> Soma? | ||
diskovision
United States27 Posts
On April 05 2020 04:27 PVJ wrote: You mean Action -> Larva -> Soma? + Show Spoiler + I hope you're not a Larva fan or I have some bad news for you. | ||
RKC
2847 Posts
I haven't really followed Stork's games. Seems like he's a solid grinder-type of player (as opposed to Bisu). How does his play compare to similar solid players like Rain and Best (especially in PvT)? Has his playstyle changed post-KeSPA? | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 05 2020 11:34 RKC wrote: Great write-up! I haven't really followed Stork's games. Seems like he's a solid grinder-type of player (as opposed to Bisu). How does his play compare to similar solid players like Rain and Best (especially in PvT)? Has his playstyle changed post-KeSPA? Well, Stork has definitely fallen under the radar in post-Kespa days after a pretty lackluster SC2 career, and now he has a family too. But he's actually topped his groups in the ASL pretty consistently before getting battered by Jaedong or in a PvP. His results are very Stork-like (good but no one ever talks about them because he never actually looks like he's going to win the tournament): ASL2 - 2-0 in Ro24 and Ro16 with wins over Rush, free, Light, and GuemChi, annihilated 3-0 by Jaedong ASL3 - Bombed out in the Ro24 against Pusan and GuemChi (NotLikeThis) ASL4 - 2-1 in Ro24 in that weird group that sSak won, got destroyed by Jaedong and Rain in the Ro16 group of death ASL5 - 2-0 in Ro24 against GuemChi and Horang2, went on to lose PvPs to Best and Snow KSL1 - Struggled against a primarily PvP group with Best and Horang2 ASL6 - Bombed out in the Ro24 against Mong and (future champ) Effort KSL3 - Finally overcame JD and Last 3-0 in Bo5 in the Ro16, beat Best 3-0 in the Ro8, and then got rekt by Mini's hot streak (but it wouldn't have mattered because there was no way he could beat Rain the finals anyway). ASL8 - 2-0 in the Ro24 against Clam and Sharp, lost once again in the Ro16 to an all PvP group with Best, Snow, and Rain KSL4 - Not a good tournament for Stork, his whole group was super cringe (Modesty/Mind/Mini doing weird stuff) ASL9 - 2-0, 2-0 bb leggo As you can see, he's been near the top for a while with a few really notably bad performances. I think he's mellowed out considerably now that he has a family and doesn't practice much compared to the other progamers. He's still the same sort of player that kind of manages to do everything pretty well though, and even though he's been really sloppy at times, his play looks like its tightened up significantly in the last few months. If he plays like he did the other day against Flash, he's better than Rain and Best at PvT (it's always been his strongest matchup). There's no telling if that's consistent though. Hoping for a really good series . | ||
RKC
2847 Posts
On April 05 2020 15:40 EsportsJohn wrote: Well, Stork has definitely fallen under the radar in post-Kespa days after a pretty lackluster SC2 career, and now he has a family too. But he's actually topped his groups in the ASL pretty consistently before getting battered by Jaedong or in a PvP. His results are very Stork-like (good but no one ever talks about them because he never actually looks like he's going to win the tournament): ASL2 - 2-0 in Ro24 and Ro16 with wins over Rush, free, Light, and GuemChi, annihilated 3-0 by Jaedong ASL3 - Bombed out in the Ro24 against Pusan and GuemChi (NotLikeThis) ASL4 - 2-1 in Ro24 in that weird group that sSak won, got destroyed by Jaedong and Rain in the Ro16 group of death ASL5 - 2-0 in Ro24 against GuemChi and Horang2, went on to lose PvPs to Best and Snow KSL1 - Struggled against a primarily PvP group with Best and Horang2 ASL6 - Bombed out in the Ro24 against Mong and (future champ) Effort KSL3 - Finally overcame JD and Last 3-0 in Bo5 in the Ro16, beat Best 3-0 in the Ro8, and then got rekt by Mini's hot streak (but it wouldn't have mattered because there was no way he could beat Rain the finals anyway). ASL8 - 2-0 in the Ro24 against Clam and Sharp, lost once again in the Ro16 to an all PvP group with Best, Snow, and Rain KSL4 - Not a good tournament for Stork, his whole group was super cringe (Modesty/Mind/Mini doing weird stuff) ASL9 - 2-0, 2-0 bb leggo As you can see, he's been near the top for a while with a few really notably bad performances. I think he's mellowed out considerably now that he has a family and doesn't practice much compared to the other progamers. He's still the same sort of player that kind of manages to do everything pretty well though, and even though he's been really sloppy at times, his play looks like its tightened up significantly in the last few months. If he plays like he did the other day against Flash, he's better than Rain and Best at PvT (it's always been his strongest matchup). There's no telling if that's consistent though. Hoping for a really good series . Wow! Thanks for the chronology! The preview mentions that Stork prefers carriers over arbiter in late-game PvT. Is his carrier play as good as peak Jangbi at OSL? Also, how about his reaver drop and stormu micro play? | ||
Timebon3s
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user80269
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thank you for doing justice to this great community. we're very lucky to have you! | ||
BeaSteR
Sweden328 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5051 Posts
On April 05 2020 16:28 RKC wrote: Wow! Thanks for the chronology! The preview mentions that Stork prefers carriers over arbiter in late-game PvT. Is his carrier play as good as peak Jangbi at OSL? Also, how about his reaver drop and stormu micro play? Stork is above average in all those. He popularised Arbiter and Carrier builds for late-game PvT. He might not have the finest execution but he is so intelligent and so good with gathering information that he knows when and where to use those. He was also beast in PvP due to his reaver usage. Nowadays he goes reaver into carrier builds often as far as I saw on his stream and had good handle on vT matchup with this tech. For starter you can watch some of his recommended games on Liquipedia | ||
Szinkler
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PVJ
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gTank
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