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TLDR - Somewhat a novice with PC's these days - that much a noob I even bought an AIO - and PC struggles with some parts of remastered, should I upgrade parts or new PC?
Current setup:
Dell Inspiron AIO 3264
Intel i3-7100u 2.40 GHz
8GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics 620 (No card because AIO)
Since I downloaded remastered a month or so back, I've experienced quite sluggish performance when on B.Net, and putting it down the my PC's specs, but wondering if there's any upgrades I could make to help with it?
When found a game on ranked, it's often very slow to show me who I'm playing, what map and what race. It gets worse if selecting 'Play again' after the match - at times I've entered the game totally blind!
During replays, the various toggle displays will come on and off, which is pretty frustrating, and there is a lag delay when toggling using ' Q; W; E ' etc, so I often toggle on then off without knowing. So yeah, it's pretty frustrating. Experience no in-game lag though, and can manage 4v4 fine.
I think the writing may be on the wall for this -otherwise adequate- PC and I may have to splurge for a new one if I'm to play more.
Checking the Dell website for my machine, I can only upgrade HDD and RAM (max 8GB), but a different website (Crucial) saying another compatible upgrade is SSD, albeit I'm not sure if that would solve anything. I'm thinking the 8GB RAM upgrade could be of use as -according to task manager- I'm using one of two slots and running at 72%~ just with Firefox & some tabs, Spotify, B.Net app & Discord.
I'd love to play with the updated graphics but don't have the capacity to change that without a PC change, so guess my last 'throw of the dice' is to update RAM, or is this a pointless task? I use the system for day-to-day browsing and word processing. SC:R would be the only game I play.
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go for an SSD if you don't already have one.
I got one PC with i3 cpu, 8 gb ram, and video w/ 4 GB RAM.
- it was bad. Loading time for windows was over 5 minutes. Once I enter StarCraft have to wait in some menus a lot of additional time until it loads enough things to work properly.
After I added an SSD to the same PC my windows loading time went under 20 sec, and I don't have any problems with StarCraft.
Just install your OS on the SSD, the programs that you work with the most and the games you play the most. Everything else you should store in the normal HDD partitions.
GL buddy
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Yeah, my dads computer was the same with Windows loading time, and a SSD fixed the issue. Mines doesn't take as long as his did, but still takes a fairly long time to load, despite having little on it and kept in good condition. I also get the waiting times when BW is loading up and navigating between menus. Because it's an AIO (All-In-One) computer, I don't have internal space for another hard drive, so could be looking at an external HDD for that, and I don't have a video card.
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Remastered is not optimised for integrated Intel HD graphic chips unfortunately
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Thanks for the replies. I chose this style of computer as it suited my requirements at the TIME (low space). I know it wasn't built for gaming of any kind, but thought I could get away with sC:R. And to be fair, it does OK, just really isn't smooth is some aspects.
Thank you for the informed post @MeSaber - I'll definitely Check out that thread. I know it's always better to build your own, I'M just rather apprehensive about it.
New custom PC it is!
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Dell Inspiron AIO 3264
Intel i3-7100u 2.40 GHz
8GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics 620 (No card because AIO)
My first thought was that it's a laptop for basic office work only :p
No 'U' rated cpus as they are power efficient. Remastered isn't a very demanding game, it's just that the specs you gave are on the lower lower end.
I played remasterd on a variety of laptops and they all were fine, but they were the newer ones. i5 8300 + 1050ti 8gb ssd, and the laptop could stream it easily.
Even played on i5-7200U + radeon 520, which is my office laptop, no problem with playing, it could even stream a bit, but it isn't very good at it.
So anything will probably run remastered now, as long as it has a dedicated graphics card and preferably a non-power-efficient-U-cpu.
"so guess my last 'throw of the dice' is to update RAM, or is this a pointless task?"
Pointless, I don't see any possibility of it improving anything.
AIO what I understand, are office job computers. Not able to say if SSD will be any help here, I doubt.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8300H-vs-Intel-Core-i3-7100U/m425634vsm176913
There are good budget line laptops which you can look into: FX505 series, FX705, Nitro 5, GL63 - all very capable space saving portable systems. However if you want a desktop, you can get it cheaper than a laptop of similar power.
I've seen non-custom PC builds that are awesome and you don't really need to spend a lot, just need to fish a bit for the right company as prices may vary as much as $250-300 for the same model!
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On November 21 2019 02:57 blackmanpl wrote:Show nested quote +Dell Inspiron AIO 3264
Intel i3-7100u 2.40 GHz
8GB RAM
Intel HD Graphics 620 (No card because AIO) My first thought was that it's a laptop for basic office work only :p
Yeah, that's the reason I bought this computer - simply for word processing, not downloading or any sort of media.
I've spent the past few hours looking around and being overwhelmed with figures from various websites. Don't really have the time to build my own either, so might just have to buy a decent home computer which will handle everything I'm after - which is very little!
I looked for a basic gaming PC, but really not keen on the fancy case's etc, and tbh they are over and above what I'd be using it for. Like I mentioned just before, I think someting with at least i5 CPU, 8GB RAM, SSD & dedicated video card should do me good for years to come. SC:R aside, the computer can be frustrating at times, so willing to upgrade.
I think it's possible for £500 or under ( $650 / €600 ). Thoughts? :/
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UI of Remastered is just broken/very bad optimised, if just gameplay works fine u should dont care  . However its still strange becouse i have intel hd 4000 with is older and worst than 620 and my UI dont work so bad except f10 menu in game. Check game settings, i remember some mouse settings (yes lol) was making UI working like a shit.
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On November 21 2019 04:47 Poegim wrote:UI of Remastered is just broken/very bad optimised, if just gameplay works fine u should dont care . However its still strange becouse i have intel hd 4000 with is older and worst than 620 and my UI dont work so bad except f10 menu in game. Check game settings, i remember some mouse settings (yes lol) was making UI working like a shit.
Well similar to many others, B.Net interaction is even laggier than before, but playing in window mode seems to improve it, so will be playing in that for now. It just gets really tiring with the constant delay, and although there's workarounds with the "play again?" Part or ranked, I'd rather be able to interact flawlessly.
Anyway, with black Friday approaching, I'll keep my eyes open for a computer with specs I gave above and hopefully something comes up. Was looking at mini PC's too, but safest option is tower unit, to take advantage of graphics card.
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The smaller stuff you search for the lesser performance per dollar though.
Here's an example wagon: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XHwF8M
(P.S the power to motherboard requires extra connector from PSU, but that you double-check at a later stage, Edit: After investigation it does not require the extra 4-pin connector. Not an issue)
Personally i wouldnt cheap out on CPU nor GPU as this PC will last for a very long time. The Motherboard is slightly expensive because it has Intel LAN, WiFi, great Audio DAC, good VRM heatsinks. Flashback button, etc etc. Best board there is in B450 range for a very cheap price. You can even use this board if you want to upgrade components later on.
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Yep, understand what you're saying MeSaber, and it's a good way to future proof, but I don't have the time or knowledge to undertake a build ATM. What I posted above were minimum specs I'll look for. I won't be gaming on the new computer, so seems somewhat unnecessary to spend extra on the performance. Add in a monitor and Windows 10 it's now in region of at least $750 .
Still, I do appreciate the help and advice!
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You could also look on the used market for a cheap PC. Be sure to double check so you dont get fooled paying full price for the internal specs.
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psyCrowe - don't be so afraid of building your own pc. You only need a screwdriver and a few hours to build it on your own.
Building a PC nowadays is really easy.
There is a ton of video tutorials on youtube to follow (just don't use the Verge one).
- Give them a shot, watch one or two and see how easy it really is.
Also - the listed PC parts by MeSaber are good. On black friday you will get even better deals.
If you get a prebuilt system with such specs it can cost you about $1k. If you get the parts next week, the cost may be under $500.
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Finding the time would be difficult as I work and study, but am open to building! I did do a short course in college many years ago, so know roughly what to do, and I know it's difficult to 'mess up' as everything generally fits in a specific place. The individual parts are where I'm lost ... Don't know what's a good processor, motherboard, graphics card etc. It's very intimidating.
I found a website in the UK which sells refurbished PC's (Kelsusit.com), and you choose your internal components. Was thinking I could opt for one of the office workstations with upgrades, or one of the gaming ones and selecting internals.
Edit: something like this
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Whats UKs major PC hardware site? Do UK got a dedicated pricerunner?
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On November 22 2019 00:17 MeSaber wrote:
Whats UKs major PC hardware site? Do UK got a dedicated pricerunner?
Yeah, I've just came across this website which I think was posted above, although the US version. I guess this could be the correct way to go about things.
You see, I would of never of known about the other website. That's why I say I'm in the dark with components, takes up much of my limited time to research
Edit: Just put this together based on nothing but price & reviews. Am I doing it right? :D
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The price problem is that most new pc and laps are overpowerd for your needs, but the prices dont drop below a certain point, unless you enter the used and returned hardware.
Yes it is a very strong build that would allow you to stream starcraft easily. Both the cpu and graphics have been replaced with newer budget models as of now, but these are still strong even for AAA games.
Do check if the motherboard is compatible with your pc and ram - Im not familiar with these in desktops now, so cant comment.
www.x-kom.pl Here you have a Ł540 machine, which is somewhat similar in specs, prebuilt, no win10 installed - saves a bit of cash. But no monitor.
Simply put, worse machines aren't much cheaper, unless again we enter the used and returned stuff.
Here a very cheap build for 380: www.x-kom.pl, but graphics a bit outdated now.
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