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ciel123
Profile Joined March 2014
10 Posts
July 17 2019 11:38 GMT
#1
Hello, I'd like to ask about control group setups of top Korean pros (either current or from Kespa era), preferably Terrans but I also welcome info about others.

I come from SC2 and copied the setup from Innovation who only uses 2 groups for units. I know it's not enough in BW but I want to know how the pros do it (e.g. Flash, Last, or old school ones like Fantasy, Hwasin, etc).
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway769 Posts
July 17 2019 13:47 GMT
#2
It changes from player to player, because personal preferance plays a part.
I'm pretty sure FlaSh and Mong use 1-2 for units in the beginning, 3 for main CC, 4-8 barrakcs/factories, 9 and 0 for scans.
Later in the game they use 1-5 for units(Flash even use 6 sometimes) and then 0.9.8.7 for scans. 6 is usually used for a unit producing structure I believe.
FlaSh for the win!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom5601 Posts
July 17 2019 14:33 GMT
#3
I remember Jaedong saying he just uses 1-4 for units and 5-7 for hatcheries and that's it.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 17 2019 15:21 GMT
#4
On July 17 2019 23:33 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I remember Jaedong saying he just uses 1-4 for units and 5-7 for hatcheries and that's it.
whereas savior i think only did 1-3 as units and the rest hatcheries.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium5766 Posts
July 17 2019 15:30 GMT
#5
On July 18 2019 00:21 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2019 23:33 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I remember Jaedong saying he just uses 1-4 for units and 5-7 for hatcheries and that's it.
whereas savior i think only did 1-3 as units and the rest hatcheries.

savior only uses 1-2 for units
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria902 Posts
July 17 2019 15:57 GMT
#6
Download pro replays
Download BWChart

Open replay via BWChart
Go to Hot Keys tab

Profit

- You will get a full mapping of all the used hotkeys by the players
- you can analyze the data by match up, situation, and timing.
enjoy
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Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States918 Posts
July 17 2019 17:51 GMT
#7
On July 18 2019 00:57 BlueStar wrote:
Download pro replays
Download BWChart

Open replay via BWChart
Go to Hot Keys tab

Profit

- You will get a full mapping of all the used hotkeys by the players
- you can analyze the data by match up, situation, and timing.
enjoy
+ Show Spoiler [sample] +
[image loading]


wow still works. good to know
Flash should fear Sacsri
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
1767 Posts
July 17 2019 23:36 GMT
#8
On July 17 2019 22:47 Kare wrote:
It changes from player to player, because personal preferance plays a part.
I'm pretty sure FlaSh and Mong use 1-2 for units in the beginning, 3 for main CC, 4-8 barrakcs/factories, 9 and 0 for scans.
Later in the game they use 1-5 for units(Flash even use 6 sometimes) and then 0.9.8.7 for scans. 6 is usually used for a unit producing structure I believe.


Think this is the optimal for T, been playing like this from very start.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
202 Posts
July 18 2019 01:16 GMT
#9
Didn't you already make a thread like this on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/cdh53p/pro_control_groups/
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
202 Posts
July 18 2019 01:18 GMT
#10
On July 17 2019 22:47 Kare wrote:
It changes from player to player, because personal preferance plays a part.
I'm pretty sure FlaSh and Mong use 1-2 for units in the beginning, 3 for main CC, 4-8 barrakcs/factories, 9 and 0 for scans.
Later in the game they use 1-5 for units(Flash even use 6 sometimes) and then 0.9.8.7 for scans. 6 is usually used for a unit producing structure I believe.


^^, it varies from person to person.

A guideline would be something like 1-5 units and 6-0 production a lot of terrans use 9 and 0 for scans, lastly F keys for rally points, main, natural. You can build your own hot key set up using those guidelines and making it your own eventually.
ciel123
Profile Joined March 2014
10 Posts
July 18 2019 06:13 GMT
#11
On July 18 2019 00:57 BlueStar wrote:
Download pro replays
Download BWChart

Open replay via BWChart
Go to Hot Keys tab

Profit

- You will get a full mapping of all the used hotkeys by the players
- you can analyze the data by match up, situation, and timing.
enjoy


Thanks. Do you know what's the official link to download it? I tried downloading it from a dropbox link linked to by bwchart.wordpress.com, but when I try to run it I get a Windows message saying that the app is unrecognized and not safe.

Didn't you already make a thread like this on reddit


Yeah but I didn't get many answers about actual pros' setups...
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria902 Posts
July 18 2019 11:47 GMT
#12
I'm currently at work and can't help you on this one as dropbox is blocked here :D

This link doesn't work? - https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Please, let me know - when I get back home I can upload it to somewhere reachable.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania4205 Posts
July 18 2019 13:54 GMT
#13
Yes, my boy JD only uses from 1 to 7, not 8,9 or 0 !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
xehcechbsky
Profile Joined September 2017
9 Posts
July 18 2019 21:55 GMT
#14
ciel123
Profile Joined March 2014
10 Posts
July 19 2019 09:37 GMT
#15
On July 18 2019 20:47 BlueStar wrote:
I'm currently at work and can't help you on this one as dropbox is blocked here :D

This link doesn't work? - https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Please, let me know - when I get back home I can upload it to somewhere reachable.


Yes that's the link I used before, but like I said I get security warning from Windows when I try to run it. So I just wanted to know if it's the official link.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria902 Posts
July 19 2019 10:26 GMT
#16
On July 19 2019 18:37 ciel123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2019 20:47 BlueStar wrote:
I'm currently at work and can't help you on this one as dropbox is blocked here :D

This link doesn't work? - https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Please, let me know - when I get back home I can upload it to somewhere reachable.


Yes that's the link I used before, but like I said I get security warning from Windows when I try to run it. So I just wanted to know if it's the official link.


Yes, it's ok - don't worry just tell windows to proceed
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
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