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On October 02 2016 00:23 mca64Launcher_ wrote:
i will donate you 20$ if you will win with koget 14:0 zvt
On October 02 2016 12:35 DiMiaN wrote:
I donate 20$ more to the pot.
On October 05 2016 05:41 DSK wrote:
I'll put $60.00 into the pot [...]
On October 08 2016 11:48 calgar wrote:
[...] I'm good for $20.
On October 02 2016 20:53 LaStScan wrote:
I would take it [...]
On October 03 2016 03:04 kogeT wrote:I can play the bet vs scan. 
- Showmatch -
 Scan vs kogeT
Prizepool: $120
Saturday, 8th October at 20:30 CET/11:30AM PDT
Final score:
+ Show Spoiler +
Scan FPV VOD:
https://www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004/v/93772545
Ty2 and puppykiller livecast VOD:
https://www.twitch.tv/julyzurg/v/93778619 *
* first 2 games are missing
Cast of the replays by BisuDagger:
on BisuDagger's YouTube Channel
Replays: Filedropper
In course of ongoing discussions about who the yet undefeated and infamous iCCup player dong222 is, and if it might be Scan, people put word and money on the theory that ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/6/65/Ticon_small_bw.png) Scan wouldn't be able to defeat kogeT 14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (Scan off-racing as Zerg), just like dong222 during his flawless winning streak did. Both, Scan and kogeT, are willing to find that out!
As far as rules and conditions go, please leave all your ideas and suggestions in the comments!
Format:
Matchup: ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/2/2b/Zicon_small_bw.png) (Z) Scan vs (T) kogeT
Rules: Scan must win 14 matches in a row to win the prizepool; kogeT can take it from him by winning 1 match. A draw gets voided.
Maps: 11x Fighting Spirit, 3x Jade (same as kogeT played vs dong222)
Prizepool: $120 go to the winner of the challange!
Streams: BisuDagger, FlaShFTW and iloveav all offered to cast. I will notify all casters as soon as a time is set. In any case BisuDagger will cast the replays, but if latency and time allows one of them might also be able to livecast.
Date: Saturday, 8th October at 20:30 CET
Scan's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004
kogeT's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Scan's PayPal: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/QDcZ6pU.png) musik29@naver.com
kogeT's PayPal: koget@wp.pl
Poll: Would kogeT be able to take one match from Scan in a TvZ?Yes (74) 52% Scan ain't that gosu (23) 16% Scan is dong222 (18) 13% No (14) 10% Maybe if he cheeses (13) 9% 142 total votes Your vote: Would kogeT be able to take one match from Scan in a TvZ? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Maybe if he cheeses
(Vote): Scan ain't that gosu
(Vote): Scan is dong222
♥ Huge thanks to the donors mca64, DiMiaN, DSK and calgar, both players Scan and kogeT and the whole of the Brood War TL.net community for making this showmatch possible and as enjoyable as it can get!
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If the game is balanced and they are actually close to skill then it would be very improbable that Scan would win 14:0 considering the ZvT matchup's statistics and map statistics. Otherwise, this isn't even a real showmatch cuz it would be like an A+ iCCup player playing vs a B rank player or something.
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On October 03 2016 07:34 Th1rdEye wrote:
If the game is balanced and they are actually close to skill then it would be very improbable that Scan would win 14:0 considering the ZvT matchup's statistics and map statistics. Otherwise, this isn't even a real showmatch cuz it would be like an A+ iCCup player playing vs a B rank player or something.
Both players are very high skilled and by iCCup ranks it would be more like A+ vs Olympic. In my opinion Scan has an clear edge in skill, especially in their offraces, but imo Scan, really both players, would need to give it their all and thus make for some interesting matches.
To me, seeing Scan as a clear favorite, it would be exciting to see if kogeT really can take a game from him and the conditions would be somewhat justified.
But yea, you're right, it enables a lot of ground for discussion if that's fair and what not, but at the end that's really up to the betters/donors.
e/ I don't know what kogeTs Fish rank is or if he's even laddering there.
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On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:
14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),
Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing?
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On October 03 2016 07:45 -Dustin- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:
14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),
Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing?
From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race.
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On October 03 2016 07:48 Orite wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2016 07:45 -Dustin- wrote:On October 03 2016 07:21 Orite wrote:
14 to 0 in a Zerg versus Terran (both players offracing, Scan as Zerg and kogeT as Terran),
Isn't KogeT main Terran so he isn't offracing? From what I figure he only plays/played Terran instead of ZvZ. He might play Terran a lot more by now, but I'd say for both players it's an incredibly strong off-race.
Oh you are probably right. The only games I've seen of his are TvZ's makes sense.
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Koget used to play Zerg at a very high level back in TSL days, but he recently switched to Terran in all matchups and is still like E rank on fish.
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Bisutopia19367 Posts
Date and time please. If you sends reps, ill cast this on my Tuesdays casts.
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Funniest match ever.
The guy going 13-1 loses. lol
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koget is 100% terran and has been for like 2 years or something. I favor koget here, taking 1 game out of 14 should be doable lol
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Can we donate to raise the prizepool?
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On October 03 2016 08:20 BisuDagger wrote:
Date and time please. If you sends reps, ill cast this on my Tuesdays casts.
Awesome! Will definetely notify you as soon as things are set.
On October 03 2016 09:42 PharaphobiaSC wrote:
Can we donate to raise the prizepool?
Absolutely! Raising the stakes is very welcome, but as a little disclaimer: exact conditions of the showmatch might not have 100% settled yet.
On October 03 2016 08:47 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
koget is 100% terran and has been for like 2 years or something. I favor koget here, taking 1 game out of 14 should be doable lol
I didn't know that. I'll leave the op as is for now though.
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Make it mandatory to play all matches even if Scan loses at some point during the 14 games.
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wow this community is awesome
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I would also lobby that the OP be updated. I dunno if its some sort of TLPD auto formatting but having them playing in the showmatch the opposite of what is bolded next to their names is quite confusing especially since I knew before I opened the thread what races they said they were going to be playing.
Agree with Jealous they should play all 14 IMO.
Scan is obv quite good but kogeT only has to take 1 game out of 14 to spoil Scan's efforts so it will be interesting.
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I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me.
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On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:
I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me.
A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it.
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On October 03 2016 13:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:
I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me. A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it.
Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish?
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On October 03 2016 13:43 SCC-Faust wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2016 13:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote:On October 03 2016 12:45 SCC-Faust wrote:
I haven't played brood war in many years, who is Scan? And I didn't realize the gap between good foreign players and Koreans was so far. Like, I realize foreigners don't fair well against Korean pros... Blizzcon comes to mind when the only person who seemed to put up a decent game was Testie vs Bisu. But for an A- ICCup guy getting 14-0'd seems really silly to me. A- on iccup now is approximately F rank on fish (which you start at, similar to D on iccup, if you can maintain F fish you can probably make A- iccup). Scan is B rank on fish, koget im not sure if he plays fish but maybe D? so several ranks lower. So you could compare it to an A- iccup guy 14-0ing a C- iccup player, which I think is easily possible. Although, at higher ranks there is less margin for error as there would be with the A-/C- situation, and also scan is offracing so I say koget will take it. Uh that is insane. What ranks are below F on Fish?
Just F- afaik
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what happens if kogeT wins the first game, SM is over?
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