• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:08
CET 15:08
KST 23:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?1Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ?
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 iNu's Battles #22 SC4ALL: II Venue Change Announcement!
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage List of top players active on ShieldBattery BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11723 users

41 Starleague S2 Ro4 Preview

Forum Index > BW General
9 CommentsPost a Reply
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 29 2014 05:09 GMT
#1
[image loading]

In about , the Ro4 is set to start. The 4 players that made it this far (Sky, Shuttle, Killer and Mind) will face off against their respective opponents for a chance to advance to the finals and hope to claim the top prize. The series will be BO7 with maps played in the following order: (Wiki)Circuit Breaker, (Wiki)New Heartbreak Ridge, (Wiki)Neo Medusa, (Wiki)Neo Electric Circuit, (Wiki)Match Point, (Wiki)Destination and (Wiki)Fighting Spirit. Here's a detailed look at the players, the upcoming series and the expectations:

First series: (Z)Killer vs (P)Sky
Both of these players are no strangers to the afreeca scene. As is common knowledge, Killer is still the best Zerg on Afreeca and his runs through the current running tournaments seem to back up this fact. In the BCTV Starleague, he's also made the Ro4 beating both Pusan and Snow on the way. He's beaten many notable players before with his current vP record sitting at 73%. His decision making skills and macro are second to none among Zerg players. Seeing as he's in the Ro4 of both tournaments, he's likely fired up and you can bet that he's looking to add another first place tournament win to his already well decorated record.

Sky on the other hand has about a 50% win rate vZ. We haven't seen much of his games against Zerg recently except in the BCTV Starleague where he was knocked out 1-3 in the Ro16 by hero but that doesn't say much since hero is a ZvP monster. He does seem to have problems with Zerg though as is evident in his game against HoGiL and he has lost to Zergs who aren't quite on Killer's caliber. He does have quite a repertoire of builds, both cheese and standard that he's used to great effect against many of his past Protoss and Terran opponents such as Pure and Hiya. His play recently has also been impressive and he's had some good unit control to top things off.

Both of these players haven't faced each other since over a year back when Killer won their only series 2-0. Even though Sky's play has seemed more solid recently, based on everything, this is Killer's series to lose. Even if Sky has managed to best his previous opponents, Killer isn't like any foe he's met so far. His builds won't work as effectively if Killer plays at his maximum potential. Looking at the maps, (Wiki)New Heartbreak Ridge and (Wiki)Destination are maps that Sky can take but Killer should be able to take the rest.
Prediction: 4-2 Killer with some nice cheese on HBR as per Sky's usual gameplay. Maybe some pylon block at the entrance.

Second series: (P)Shuttle vs (T)Mind
Just looking at the players, one would guess that this will be a close series and they may not be far from the truth. Mind had beaten several Protoss players in Mini and Free on his way to the Ro8. He's lost a game to Shuttle but that doesn't speak much to his vP game. In BCTV Starleague, Mind has beaten Lazy and Mini. He's also beaten Shuttle 2-0. His overall record which sits at about 53% does seem to indicate he may have a weakness to Protoss though more of his losses seem to be back in 2013 and were against respectable Protoss players.

Shuttle's vT is his best matchup at the moment with his record sitting at about 62%. Shuttle has beaten Mind once before in this tournament as indicated above and just recently came off beating Sea 3-1, a Terran player who is on Mind's level and who prior to these games has beaten Shuttle 3-0 to knock him out of BCTV Starleague. His recent games 2 and 4 against Sea showed good decision making and he's not afraid to mix in some cheese either.

Taking everything into account, it seems very likely that Shuttle will take this series. Not only is his vT solid, his recent win against Sea is likely fresh in his mind and his last tournament win was back in 18th SRT so he's hungry for another. Of course, that doesn't mean that Mind can be counted out yet seeing as he is a former MSL champion and it's still possible that he can take this series. He just has to prepare well against Shuttle.
Prediction: 4-1 Shuttle though it's possible that Mind can fight his way to win three games but Shuttle should still take this.

What do you think? Will Sky end up doing the impossible and knock out Killer or will Killer continue his rampage? Will Mind go for the upset to get revenge for Shuttle knocking him out in RO16 of the first season of 41 Starleague or will Shuttle just shut down Mind and get to the finals?
Facebook Twitter Reddit
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
August 29 2014 05:36 GMT
#2
Good calls

I've only seen Killer play Sky a few times on Afreeca, usually winning handily on Fighting Spirits, so I'd anticipate a 4-1 or 4-2 series win

Shuttle has beaten Mind once before in this tournament as indicated above and just recently came off beating Sea 3-1, a Terran player who is on Mind's level and who prior to these games has beaten Shuttle 3-0 to knock him out of BCTV Starleague.
Took me 4 reads, but I think I get the gist of this factoid
I rarely watch Mind, but Shuttle's PvT is monstrous.

Too many games, too little time!
Liquipedia
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 29 2014 05:44 GMT
#3
I hope Mind makes the finals, he's been so sad when he started streaming good to see him in ro4 already but yeah.
Sky < Killer
En Taro Violet
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 05:58:35
August 29 2014 05:57 GMT
#4
On August 29 2014 14:36 prech wrote:
Good calls

I've only seen Killer play Sky a few times on Afreeca, usually winning handily on Fighting Spirits, so I'd anticipate a 4-1 or 4-2 series win

Show nested quote +
Shuttle has beaten Mind once before in this tournament as indicated above and just recently came off beating Sea 3-1, a Terran player who is on Mind's level and who prior to these games has beaten Shuttle 3-0 to knock him out of BCTV Starleague.
Took me 4 reads, but I think I get the gist of this factoid
I rarely watch Mind, but Shuttle's PvT is monstrous.

Too many games, too little time!

Honestly, Sky doesn't seem to be on Killer's level to me. Yes, he has been playing really well but his PvZ looks shady though and when going up against someone like Killer, that'll hinder him greatly ><

ah my bad lol. I just had a train of thought there and forgot to fix it XD

ya, too many games going on

On August 29 2014 14:44 Stratos wrote:
I hope Mind makes the finals, he's been so sad when he started streaming good to see him in ro4 already but yeah.
Sky < Killer

ya, I remember when he first started streaming and visited TL after hearing about the restreams only to see streams of other players. Before that (or after?), he got drunk and was rambling about how his family used his MSL money or something. Even my KR friend who doesn't follow the scene apparently heard about it so I wonder just how widespread some of this info is. I think a win against Shuttle will do wonders for him and if he makes the finals, there is a chance that he can actually win this tournament seeing as Killer's vT is his weakest mu and it's Mind's strongest.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1982 Posts
August 29 2014 13:36 GMT
#5
My bets are on Killer and Shuttle!
Total Annihilation Zero
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 29 2014 14:51 GMT
#6
gotta go scouts sky
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-29 15:39:14
August 29 2014 15:21 GMT
#7
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Awesome that Mind took it. Glad to be wrong lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
August 29 2014 22:33 GMT
#8
are there any English casts for this star league?
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 29 2014 23:21 GMT
#9
On August 30 2014 07:33 atrox_ wrote:
are there any English casts for this star league?

No, but 41 did an amazing job casting this! You should watch his Korean cast when he got those donations from his stream
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-30 00:00:25
August 30 2014 00:00 GMT
#10
On August 30 2014 08:21 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2014 07:33 atrox_ wrote:
are there any English casts for this star league?

No, but 41 did an amazing job casting this! You should watch his Korean cast when he got those donations from his stream

Here they are!

Bonus:
- 41.pOse screaming from happiness: 1 2
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
21:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
WardiTV736
TKL 172
Rex112
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 172
Rex 112
trigger 53
EnDerr 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 74964
Rain 2036
Horang2 1236
EffOrt 895
BeSt 839
Jaedong 719
Stork 349
Zeus 342
Snow 252
firebathero 220
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 172
Rush 129
Barracks 93
ProTech88
Sea.KH 81
Pusan 79
JYJ 76
Hyun 63
Sharp 57
Mong 54
sSak 36
ToSsGirL 35
HiyA 32
Killer 26
Shinee 26
scan(afreeca) 23
Shine 19
Noble 19
Movie 18
Aegong 17
Rock 15
sorry 15
Hm[arnc] 12
sOs 11
Terrorterran 11
zelot 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Sacsri 8
Icarus 7
Dota 2
qojqva1277
Dendi1112
monkeys_forever163
420jenkins145
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1211
markeloff296
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes283
Other Games
singsing2141
B2W.Neo895
hiko526
XaKoH 257
Fuzer 194
syndereN189
QueenE56
Mew2King54
ArmadaUGS41
ViBE39
NeuroSwarm32
Railgan23
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL84
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2020
• WagamamaTV419
League of Legends
• Jankos1996
• TFBlade234
Upcoming Events
OSC
8h 52m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
PiGosaur Cup
10h 52m
INu's Battles
21h 52m
ByuN vs Classic
3D!Clan Event
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 19h
KCM Race Survival
1d 19h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
Ultimate Battle
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
4 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
5 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-09
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.