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'Reflections' with Jaedong

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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
March 10 2014 23:09 GMT
#1


Lee 'Jaedong' Jae Dong, legendary BW champion and "The Tyrant", is the star of the 15th episode of my 'Reflections' interview series.

Time line of topics discussed:

00:39 Intro

00:43 Playing in the Courage tournament as a BW amateur.

01:20 Did he ever wonder if he wouldn't make it as a top BW pro?

02:30 The key moment when he felt he had reached the status of being a top player.

03:59 Beating Stork in his first OSL final, despite being considered weak in ZvP.

05:54 The first time Flash became his rival.

07:42 A statement he'd made about Flash being his friend in a past life.

08:50 Coming back from 0:2 to beat Fantasy in the Batoo OSL final.

10:06 The Lee Jae Dong score, losing map one and winning the next three in a row.

11:07 His ZvZ being 90% win-rate in BW.

12:17 The story of the NATE MSL final and Flash supposedly being unbeatable in it, but Jaedong overcoming him.

13:57 The story of Rekrul betting big money on Jaedong, vs. Flash fanboys on TL.

16:33 Bisu and Jaedong never meeting in a big OSL or MSL semi-final or final, despite being a dream match-up.

18:21 How Bisu was different from other Protoss in PvZ.

19:49 Struggling early on in SC2.

21:20 Did coming second so many times in SC2 give him a new perspective on people with "the silver curse" like YellOw, Stork and Fantasy?

22:38 How Jaedong thinks of himself.

24:08 Final words/Outro.
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Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
March 10 2014 23:56 GMT
#2
Nice, I really like your League content. Gonna watch immediately.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
March 11 2014 00:30 GMT
#3
thx for not posting this in the sc2 section. The majority of this interview really is about BW content, as Jaedong commited the most time in his carrier to BW.
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JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
March 11 2014 00:48 GMT
#4
Omg this interview was so awesome thank you Thorin!!!
Maybe just me but I thought there were some times in the interview where Jaedong reflecting on his BW days almost made him tear up or something especially when he talked about Courage and about Flash. And the interview series is called "Reflections." :O aptly named! lol
I wish Jaedong expanded on some of his questions since quite a lot of his answers were pretty broad. Woulda loved to hear him talk about ZvZ micro or the popularization of late mech and how it impacted the ZvT matchup.
really really cool interview though thank you!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 11 2014 00:48 GMT
#5
nice interview! i think jaedong mentioned confidence about 100x in that interview lol. i love his mentality
aka DragOn[NaS]
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
March 11 2014 00:52 GMT
#6
Thanks for this :D
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EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
March 11 2014 00:55 GMT
#7
Watched the first 20 minutes, which was about BW. Great watch!
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 11 2014 01:02 GMT
#8
That was awesome.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 11 2014 01:07 GMT
#9
On March 11 2014 09:55 EndingLife wrote:
Watched the first 20 minutes, which was about BW. Great watch!

So you seriously stopped as soon as sc2 was mentioned? much amaze!
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 01:12:57
March 11 2014 01:12 GMT
#10
JD beat Bisu a lot in practice. Too humble there in his close 2-2 finals prediction.
tarpman
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada718 Posts
March 11 2014 01:19 GMT
#11
Great interview, thanks for this Thorin! I've gotten the idea before, from reading interviews, that he thinks his confidence and mentality make up his strongest attribute, and this really confirms that. It's also interesting that he doesn't have much to say about several of the things fans seem to spend a bunch of time thinking about and discussing (silver curse, etc)... he just plays the game and focuses on winning.

Funny that he called players by their names sometimes and by their IDs other times. I thought Koreans used players' real names pretty much exclusively... is that some evidence of his time around foreigners?
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 11 2014 01:43 GMT
#12
Nice, really good interview. Thanks for doing it.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
March 11 2014 01:48 GMT
#13
On March 11 2014 10:12 LaLuSh wrote:
JD beat Bisu a lot in practice. Too humble there in his close 2-2 finals prediction.

Bisu's 12-8 record begs to differ. He's 7-1 since midway through 2009 against Jaedong. Hardly humble. I thought it was pretty damn accurate.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
March 11 2014 01:49 GMT
#14
Bisu 3-2

Jaedong is the only zerg I appreciated. Just seeing him at the stage would give me this impression of confidence and power, something I've never perceived on Flash.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 11 2014 01:51 GMT
#15
On March 11 2014 10:49 fabiano wrote:
Bisu 3-2

Jaedong is the only zerg I appreciated. Just seeing him at the stage would give me this impression of confidence and power, something I've never perceived on Flash.


Well JD have caught numerous of times w/ his pants down by Flash....

as much as I love the Zerg race...

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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 11 2014 01:58 GMT
#16
Great interview. Confidence is always the key to winning
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Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
March 11 2014 02:47 GMT
#17
On March 11 2014 10:12 LaLuSh wrote:
JD beat Bisu a lot in practice. Too humble there in his close 2-2 finals prediction.

Practice is practice. Bisu used to get in that ass in Proleague matches
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
March 11 2014 02:48 GMT
#18
Is it just me or is he looking kinda chubby? :d
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-11 02:58:07
March 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#19
Really cool to see a westerner with strong BW knowledge interview a legend like Jaedong, thanks a lot

On March 11 2014 11:47 Thorin wrote:
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On March 11 2014 10:12 LaLuSh wrote:
JD beat Bisu a lot in practice. Too humble there in his close 2-2 finals prediction.

Practice is practice. Bisu used to get in that ass in Proleague matches


exactly, proleague, not individual leagues :p
i remember that GOM finals that bisu and jd played, with the glorious hold position fail by bisu
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
March 11 2014 03:04 GMT
#20
Great work as always Thorin!
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