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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 27 2013 17:41 GMT
#41
On December 28 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:
I'd like to know what changes Monkey3 wanted as well. ;/


probably some stipulations to buy products on their platforms or the vods are viewable only if you use monkey3. Riot-esque control at its finest
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
December 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#42
i mean, we could donate... but that defies sonic's purpose: to show BW is still alive and able to attract good sponsors. Furthermore im not THAT rich :D
Broodwar for life!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#43
On December 28 2013 02:48 Cele wrote:
i mean, we could donate... but that defies sonic's purpose: to show BW is still alive and able to attract good sponsors. Furthermore im not THAT rich :D


Donate as much as you can afford man.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
December 27 2013 21:21 GMT
#44
On December 28 2013 02:36 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 02:34 StarStruck wrote:
I'd like to know what changes Monkey3 wanted as well. ;/

doubt that info will be released although I don't see why not.

Lawsuits, man. The big firms will sue you and make the trial drag on until the legal fees bankrupt you. Not worth the trouble. Sonic is wise for not being specific. Also, a lot of Korean companies are owned by the same people. He might want their sponsorship later.
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States467 Posts
January 23 2014 04:50 GMT
#45
keep up the fight!
How we will win in the period ahead.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 23 2014 05:00 GMT
#46
sonic really is the hero that SC1 needs, because no one else seems to be willing to go through as much hardship for the passion we all share for the game.

i hope every time he reads a shitty comment from shitty people he can read 100 comments of support for continuing to keep the game burning red hot.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
January 23 2014 05:14 GMT
#47
How can we help him?
Can we sponsor SSL?
SOSPA-TSL?
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
January 23 2014 05:22 GMT
#48
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
January 23 2014 06:42 GMT
#49
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,
세 가지 제어
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 23 2014 07:21 GMT
#50
On January 23 2014 15:42 Phyanketto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,


the next grrrrr???
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
January 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#51
On January 23 2014 16:21 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 15:42 Phyanketto wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,


the next grrrrr???


he need blue eyes and a quebec accent
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
January 23 2014 16:18 GMT
#52
On January 23 2014 23:26 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 16:21 Gamegene wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:42 Phyanketto wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,


the next grrrrr???


he need blue eyes and a quebec accent

...Blue?
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 23 2014 17:56 GMT
#53
On January 24 2014 01:18 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 23:26 Boonbag wrote:
On January 23 2014 16:21 Gamegene wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:42 Phyanketto wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,


the next grrrrr???


he need blue eyes and a quebec accent

...Blue?


Its suppose to be "Green Eyed Warrior" get it right!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
January 24 2014 02:07 GMT
#54
I just want to see Sziky lose in a major tourney.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 24 2014 02:18 GMT
#55
On January 24 2014 11:07 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I just want to see Sziky lose in a major tourney.


at first i was like wow you're a bitch.

and then i was like o_o
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26167 Posts
January 24 2014 02:38 GMT
#56
I liked the idea of doing an E-book or something like people did for DRG back when he was in something of a slump, would like to help out with such a thing
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Noradrenaline
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia41 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 10:30:11
January 24 2014 10:28 GMT
#57
I realise it's a late time to be asking, but I only saw this yesterday, and having had a bit of time to think this whole deal makes me suspect a calculated act of exploitation and bullying on the part of monkey3, who were relying on the vastly unequal bargaining power they held. They offered such a lucrative deal (really was too good to be true, they had no reason to invest like that altruistically unless it's charity) to get a signed contract in place, let Sonic plan his operation (and personal Dream) in reliance on these funds being available and building up sunk costs before demanding their pound of flesh at the last minute in the form of a new, unreasonable demand. On the one hand, I respect Sonics integrity in not caving to it, but he has had to martyr himself financially and mentally as a result of possibly unconscionable, duplicitous conduct for which he may have a just and reasonable legal remedy.

Notwithstanding the aforementioned lack of specific information to avoid aggressive, vexacious litigation against him, does anyone know more on the legal position in these matters? IANAL, though I did enough Contract Law to know that rescission (Annulment is for Marriage) has specific rules and should operate such that each party should be restored to the positions they would have occupied if no contract had ever been formed. Further, in serious, provable cases of Unconscionable conduct, remedies like promissory estoppel can be invoked as a shield to protect people like Sonic in positions of unequal bargaining power from being completely shafted. I don't know both sides or the whole picture at all, but it's not difficult for me to imagine people relying on Korean Culture, Face saving and Sonic's effusive passion and vision for his scene against him, and I don't want him to be a victim or shoulder this kind of thing. Could someone find out if he has seriously and in earnest considered every possible legal remedy available?
I am Legion, for We are Many
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 10:46:26
January 24 2014 10:38 GMT
#58
On January 24 2014 02:56 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 01:18 Epoxide wrote:
On January 23 2014 23:26 Boonbag wrote:
On January 23 2014 16:21 Gamegene wrote:
On January 23 2014 15:42 Phyanketto wrote:
On January 23 2014 14:22 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Seed the winner of TSL into SOSPA :D

Sziky would probably fight on the level of Like Starcue and Zergman,


the next grrrrr???


he need blue eyes and a quebec accent

...Blue?


Its suppose to be "Green Eyed Warrior" get it right!


Casters use to call it blue eyed warrior. This isnt Dbz lawl.

But yeah they were green now that i think of it.
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