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It's probably less impressive that lois, anyway sol.selector is still #44 on the TLT ladder
I will talk about the game you can download here :
http://www.wgtour.com/match.php?action=dl&datab=broodwar&id=768054&url=upload/ladder/broodwar/3735TLT_-_yan_v_sel.rep
It's on the game list here, the last game vs yan_ukr :
http://www.wgtour.com/info.php?datab=broodwar&id=125300&premium=1&bottom=0&type=
at 1:48, sol.selector move on the neutral geyser that he had no vision anytime before, he was far from it when he clicked on it, penguinplug/bwac auto-center on the target.
First screenshot is with the replay option "see all the map"
2nd is with both player vision
it's in the bwchart action list :
You can wonder if it's realy a geyser, or which geyser it is on the map, because bwchart only show the unit ID and you are allowed not to turst PenguinPlug alone  . However, there is at least 1 thing to consider : the numbers in ( ) are the position of the target, and if you make a test game on the same map, you will see that the coordinates are the same with only a few pixel of difference.
Finally, i find his name quite irronical, beware to what you select next time, sol.SELECTOR
I hope lois is happy now, he is not the only one, they can make a cheater-club.
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Question: If a player selects into the fog of war (or total blackness because you havent scouted there yet), does it show up as a selection on buildings?
What about units?
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lol =o
if this is true i guess bws is kinda not working. obvious it can detect map hackers this way but surely there is a mainstream hack out there or something that a bunch of people have. probably a lot of undetected hacking going on at lower levels that nobody will take the time to look into because its such tedious work to do
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On May 10 2005 00:35 Amnesty wrote:
Question: If a player selects into the fog of war (or total blackness because you havent scouted there yet), does it show up as a selection on buildings?
What about units?
Curious because in one rep i checked, a famous hacker selects a vulture that im sure he didnt have vision of.
All of those explainantion are only for units/buildings under the "grey fog of war".
without a cheat program :
- you cant select something if it's under the "grey fog", if you try to left clic on it there will be no action at all in the replay
- if you target/move on a building, either with "a" "m" or the right mouse button, it will be recorded as a "target/move on" a ground location even if it seems to be done on an exact object.
with a maphack :
- selects will be recorded in the replay (sometime not, because some cheats filter them)
- "target/move on" will be recorded as an action on a building or unit (sometime not, because some cheats filter them)
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once again a player from SoL... third one this year?
frost(te):
well bws was not mandatory in tlt so maybe he didnt use it when he played this game...
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that was so obvious, in germany no one trusts him... ( map hack 3rd time / acc sharer/ etc.)
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i played this guy a few games, are match lists still up? could u check those reps too if they are :-D
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o man penguin is on a roll
WHO YOU GONNA CALL?
gosubusters!!111!!
>.>
nice work penguin ^^
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Superpenguin is there a way to contact you maybe ICQ? I wanna answer you something, please reply ;D!
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hopefully we'll be able to cath 1 or 2 good players hacking every day, great for amusement!
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Its great! Catch those damn hackers. Is it impossible to hack on PGT ? Seeing how these hacked while using bwscanner.
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why does everyone assume he used bwscanner, it's not like it was mandatory. anyway good work superpenguin^^
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On May 10 2005 00:50 ulti wrote:
that was so obvious, in germany no one trusts him... ( map hack 3rd time / acc sharer/ etc.)
no, unfortunately there were enough idiots who defended him over and over again
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Another one bites the dust...
(sing with me)
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I still don't get why he would select this geyser... 
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i somehow feel next TLT will be sponsored by PGT ^_^
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On May 10 2005 02:50 ChApFoU wrote:
i somehow feel next TLT will be sponsored by PGT ^_^
why ? :p
its not like this had any impact on the outcome ( as far as i know ) -.-V
wgt+tlt belongs together
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EPT![[image loading]](http://ste.gnux.info/ftp/scd/selector2.png)
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