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BW Nostalgia #2: Livestream of 2001 - 2002 games.

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[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 00:26:16
February 13 2011 05:06 GMT
#1
EDIT:
VOD Link (original, cuts off after 5 hours): here. (Note: The first ~20 minutes are pre-stream setup and game adjustment stuff)

"The Lost BW Nostalgia Games" (or those from 5 hours until 7.5 hours): here.

Game start time guide (approximate Hours/Minutes/Seconds):
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Original recording times:

Pills (Mr.Turtles) Game 1 and 2: 19:00

SupaMerc: 51:00

Wizard VS Rekrul: 01:18:00 (Note: The best game, in my opinion. Watch this one, if nothing else).

Wizard VS Froz: 02:06:45

Bluewolf VS Tasteless: 02:30:20

Wizard VS Testie: 02:43:30

Wizard and Bluewolf VS {PH}Jester and Sindread: 03:13:30

Bluewolf VS Rekrul: 03:40:00

Bluewolf VS Day[9] Games 1 and 2: 04:08:30

Bluewolf VS Liquid'Corbalt: 04:55:30 (continued into the "lost games" video)

"BW Nostalgia Lost Games" times:

Froz VS Grrr...: 00:12:15

Froz VS Boxer: 00:39:50

Bluewolf VS Day[9]: 01:07:30

Bluewolf VS Wizard (Polaris Prime): 01:27:30

Bluewolf VS Wizard (Dire Straits, game one of the earliest on June 08, 2001): 01:59:50



Link to replays: http://www.phdgaming.com/general_media/BWNostalgia.zip .


Old Polls:
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Poll: What game would you like to see next (WCG Edition)?

Froz VS gonia119_kr (aka Boxer) (15)
 
71%

Wizard vs elky_fr (2)
 
10%

Froz vs Grrr_ca (1)
 
5%

Froz vs Androide_ru (1)
 
5%

Wizard vs Grrr_ca (1)
 
5%

Whear vs [pG]LiquidNazgul (1)
 
5%

Wizard vs Beast (0)
 
0%

Wizard vs Executor_pe (0)
 
0%

Froz vs Ranger[pG]_ru (0)
 
0%

Froz vs DIDI8_bg (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next (WCG Edition)?

(Vote): Froz VS gonia119_kr (aka Boxer)
(Vote): Froz vs Grrr_ca
(Vote): Froz vs Androide_ru
(Vote): Wizard vs Grrr_ca
(Vote): Wizard vs elky_fr
(Vote): Wizard vs Beast
(Vote): Whear vs [pG]LiquidNazgul
(Vote): Wizard vs Executor_pe
(Vote): Froz vs Ranger[pG]_ru
(Vote): Froz vs DIDI8_bg



Poll: What game would you like to see next (WCG Edition)?

Froz vs Grrr_ca (7)
 
41%

Froz VS gonia119_kr (aka Boxer) (4)
 
24%

Whear vs [pG]LiquidNazgul (4)
 
24%

Froz vs Ranger[pG]_ru (1)
 
6%

Froz vs DIDI8_bg (1)
 
6%

Froz vs Androide_ru (0)
 
0%

Wizard vs Grrr_ca (0)
 
0%

Wizard vs elky_fr (0)
 
0%

Wizard vs Beast (0)
 
0%

Wizard vs Executor_pe (0)
 
0%

17 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next (WCG Edition)?

(Vote): Froz VS gonia119_kr (aka Boxer)
(Vote): Froz vs Grrr_ca
(Vote): Froz vs Androide_ru
(Vote): Wizard vs Grrr_ca
(Vote): Wizard vs elky_fr
(Vote): Wizard vs Beast
(Vote): Whear vs [pG]LiquidNazgul
(Vote): Wizard vs Executor_pe
(Vote): Froz vs Ranger[pG]_ru
(Vote): Froz vs DIDI8_bg



Poll: What game would you like to see next?

VS Liquid'Corbat (23)
 
68%

VS Pillars (7)
 
21%

VS {PH}Jester (3)
 
9%

VS Sindread (1)
 
3%

34 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next?

(Vote): VS Sindread
(Vote): VS {PH}Jester
(Vote): VS Pillars
(Vote): VS Liquid'Corbat



Poll: What game would you like to see next (brother edition)?

VS Day[9] (28)
 
70%

VS Tasteless (12)
 
30%

40 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next (brother edition)?

(Vote): VS Tasteless
(Vote): VS Day[9]



Poll: What game would you like to see next?

Rekrul vs Bluewolf (15)
 
52%

Froz VS Bluewolf (12)
 
41%

Give us another 2v2! (2)
 
7%

Whear VS Wizard (0)
 
0%

NewbieMcNasty VS Wizard (0)
 
0%

29 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next?

(Vote): Froz VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Whear VS Wizard
(Vote): Rekrul vs Bluewolf
(Vote): NewbieMcNasty VS Wizard
(Vote): Give us another 2v2!



Poll: What game would you like to see next (2v2 edition)?

{PH}Jester and Sindread (Recon2000 LAN,Dire Straits,Game 2) (14)
 
47%

DS-Brave and DS-Testie (Clanwar, Green Valleys) (14)
 
47%

Bashkir and Incinerator (Recon2000 LAN,Lost Temple) (1)
 
3%

[X]ljt and [X]StriderHiryu (Practice, Lost Temple) (1)
 
3%

Aquanda-X and Recon (Recon2000 LAN, Winter Conquest) (0)
 
0%

[GL1]ReD and [GL1]Spikes (Recon2000 LAN,Rivalry) (0)
 
0%

ickedTricks and IMMINENTVICTORY (Recon2000 LAN,Lost Temple) (0)
 
0%

30 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next (2v2 edition)?

(Vote): Aquanda-X and Recon (Recon2000 LAN, Winter Conquest)
(Vote): {PH}Jester and Sindread (Recon2000 LAN,Dire Straits,Game 2)
(Vote): Bashkir and Incinerator (Recon2000 LAN,Lost Temple)
(Vote): [GL1]ReD and [GL1]Spikes (Recon2000 LAN,Rivalry)
(Vote): ickedTricks and IMMINENTVICTORY (Recon2000 LAN,Lost Temple)
(Vote): DS-Brave and DS-Testie (Clanwar, Green Valleys)
(Vote): [X]ljt and [X]StriderHiryu (Practice, Lost Temple)



Poll: What game would you like to see next?

Testie VS Wizard (12)
 
67%

Liquid.Crystal VS Wizard (5)
 
28%

Tsunami VS Bluewolf (1)
 
6%

Pillars VS Bluewolf (0)
 
0%

Apex-X VS Bluewolf (0)
 
0%

{PH}Jester VS Bluewolf (0)
 
0%

NewbieMcNasty VS Wizard (0)
 
0%

Liquid'Corbalt VS Wizard (0)
 
0%

18 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next?

(Vote): Pillars VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Apex-X VS Bluewolf
(Vote): {PH}Jester VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Testie VS Wizard
(Vote): NewbieMcNasty VS Wizard
(Vote): Liquid.Crystal VS Wizard
(Vote): Liquid'Corbalt VS Wizard
(Vote): Tsunami VS Bluewolf



Poll: What game would you like to see next?

Froz VS Wizard (19)
 
51%

Assem VS Wizard (8)
 
22%

SuperCondomUser VS Wizard (3)
 
8%

ilnp VS Bluewolf (3)
 
8%

Pillars VS Bluewolf (2)
 
5%

{PH}Jester VS Bluewolf (1)
 
3%

Whear VS Wizard (1)
 
3%

Oem)Cyrax vs Wizard (0)
 
0%

37 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next?

(Vote): Froz VS Wizard
(Vote): SuperCondomUser VS Wizard
(Vote): {PH}Jester VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Oem)Cyrax vs Wizard
(Vote): Whear VS Wizard
(Vote): ilnp VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Assem VS Wizard
(Vote): Pillars VS Bluewolf



Poll: What game would you like to see next?

Tasteless VS Bluewolf (14)
 
58%

Froz VS Bluewolf (3)
 
13%

Tsunami VS Bluewolf (3)
 
13%

Yosh VS Wizard (2)
 
8%

Corbalt VS Bluewolf (2)
 
8%

Sindread VS Bluewolf (0)
 
0%

Proxa vs Wizard (0)
 
0%

Whear VS Bluewolf (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: What game would you like to see next?

(Vote): Froz VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Yosh VS Wizard
(Vote): Sindread VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Proxa vs Wizard
(Vote): Whear VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Tasteless VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Corbalt VS Bluewolf
(Vote): Tsunami VS Bluewolf




Announcing BW Nostalgia #2 to be held on Sunday, Feb 20 6:15pm GMT (GMT+00:00)! I'll be livestreaming games that my brother (Wizard) and I played in 2001 and 2002. These games are against such top players as Day[9], Tasteless, Froz, Whear, Ret, etc from various events and practice matches of the time. For additional details on what this is, please see the the thread from the initial event: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184331.


Opening Games:

For this event, I plan to open with the following four games:

The first two will be games against Mr. Turtles (aka Pills) - one of the best ZvP players of this time frame in my opinion. Always near the very top of the CompUSA ladder, his play really best shows how ZvP was played at that specific time.

The next one is an unusual choice of someone almost no one here would know - SupaMerc. This player generally hung out around the 100-200 range of the CompUSA ladder and never actually placed highly in any major tournament. So - why cast one of these? He had his own style that was fairly unique at the time and it also shows some of the mid-tier level of play that existed then.

The final opening match will be against the legendary Rekrul. No further information should be needed.


Middle Games (aka "the meat"):

I plan to follow a similar format to that of last time for this section. The games I broadcast will be determined by poll voting that are posted as the event is going on. The poll for the next game is posted while the current game is going on. The general list of players that could be included in various polls are:

+ Show Spoiler +

Froz (T)
Tsunami (Z)
Day[9] (Z)
Tasteless (P)
Whear (T)
Elky (T)
Rekrul (Random)
Oem)ret (Z)
Yosh (T)
Pills (Z/T)
Pillars (P)
Oem)Cyrax (T)
ilnp (Z/T)
Dreame (Z)
Sindread (Z)
{PH}jeSter
NewbieMcNasty (T)
Yosh (T)
SuperCondomUser / Dudey(???) (T)
Assem (T)
Testie (T)
MarshallFaulk (P)
Liquid.Crystal (T/P)



The Ending Games:

I plan to do one or two replays that are not from my collection. I've found and downloaded the replay pack from WCG 2002 Grand Finals - held a few months after the most recent replay that I have. This will show a bit more of how the game was progressing, and will allow me to talk more about the USA talent at the time. Why the focus on USA players? That was the community I was from and the ones I could actually comment about. The games that are possibilities (will likely do 1 voted and 1 picked):
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Froz (WCG USA 1st place representative):
Froz vs gonia119_kr (note: gonia119_kr took the gold medal this year)
Froz vs Androide_ru
Froz vs DIDI8_bg
Froz vs Ranger[pG]_ru
Froz vs Grrr_ca

Wizard (WCG USA 2nd place representative):
Wizard vs Grrr_ca
Wizard vs elky_fr
Wizard vs Beast

Whear (WCG USA 3rd place representative):
Whear vs [pG]LiquidNazgul


Lastly, I plan to end on 1-3 games of myself against my younger brother. These games range in maps and contain possibly the oldest reply's I have from this time. One would also expect this to be a PvP fest - but it actually isn't as we knew each other's styles so well we could often off-race to abuse timing windows that we knew would exist.

I'll post stream links 15 minutes before the event goes live. Let me know if anyone has any comments or suggestions for the event.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
Firien
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland115 Posts
February 13 2011 05:08 GMT
#2
FUCK YEACH
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
February 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#3
great to see you are doing this again :D

ace hwaiting!!
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
February 13 2011 17:03 GMT
#4
Nice! I just watched your first stream and it was cool to see the old school styles. I'm looking forward to this.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
February 13 2011 17:47 GMT
#5
Waat. #1 was amazing. Can't wait to watch this!
If you're still using livestream.com, please make sure it's verfied since pretty much everybody in this community really should watch it. If it is verfied you can probably get someone to make a calendar event for this!
화이팅
Frah
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada96 Posts
February 13 2011 17:59 GMT
#6
Awesome! I loved the first time so I'm glad to see you back with this
"Dudes yo" -Surfer4Life
Himmel
Profile Joined January 2009
United States68 Posts
February 13 2011 18:01 GMT
#7
Sweet can't wait for this
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 13 2011 18:03 GMT
#8
Awesome, I will be there!
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FlowerbedOfDreams
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada126 Posts
February 13 2011 23:06 GMT
#9
I loved the first one, so I'm definitely tuning in for this. Thanks!
If I can make a small request, could you try to throw in some interesting 2v2s as well? The PPvPP from the first cast was a... novel experience, to say the least.
"SKT is best KT." -Vortok
Hanasu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
February 14 2011 05:20 GMT
#10
This was really great. Thanks a lot.
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
February 16 2011 18:50 GMT
#11
On February 14 2011 02:47 XsebT wrote:
If you're still using livestream.com, please make sure it's verfied since pretty much everybody in this community really should watch it. If it is verfied you can probably get someone to make a calendar event for this!


Livestream finally approved my application to be verified - so there should be no viewer limit and no need for a restream. No clue how the calendar events work here on TL though.

On February 14 2011 08:06 FlowerbedOfDreams wrote:
If I can make a small request, could you try to throw in some interesting 2v2s as well? The PPvPP from the first cast was a... novel experience, to say the least.


There will be at least one poll with only 2v2 choices. For the most part, will likely be similar choices to the last time except adding a choice of a clanwar game against DS-Brave and DS-Testie on some large map I can't remember at the moment.
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
Kairo
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden184 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 19:36:02
February 16 2011 19:35 GMT
#12


No clue how the calendar events work here on TL though.


Guess you should pm Brood. This thread might be useful:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=158090
Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. Off she rode with a trumpety trump; trump trump trump.<- Sig since before the Don.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
February 16 2011 20:03 GMT
#13
you should comment about Froz vs Josez and Wizard vs Executor
both are peruvian sc2 players, executor (now iExec) played WC3 the next year and now he comeback to sc2. he plays in our national team right now.
josez played SCBW for more years, he beated boxer on that wcg.
both play under Fkc team tag now.
WaZuP
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany487 Posts
February 20 2011 16:46 GMT
#14
yeah nothin better to do on a sunday than watchin some matches of the greatest game ever

sad i have to wait an hour till start :X ^^
[-Bluewolf-]
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States609 Posts
February 20 2011 18:04 GMT
#15
Stream is up, starting in 12 minutes: http://www.livestream.com/thebluewolf
The melody of logic always plays the notes of truth.
.Enigma.
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden1461 Posts
February 20 2011 18:12 GMT
#16
Wow, this looks really cool - will be sure to watch it.
"Jupiters c*ck!" - Quintus Lentulus Batiatus
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 18:18:17
February 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#17
Associate your stream with the event in your TL stream page!
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 20 2011 19:45 GMT
#18
this is awesome, thanks for doing it
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Imrik
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden118 Posts
February 20 2011 20:05 GMT
#19
Very entertaining, thanks for the effort!
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
February 20 2011 20:24 GMT
#20
Thanks a lot for these awesome old games
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
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