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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 17 2009 13:36 GMT
#1
look at my iccup today
http://www.iccup.com/matchlist/387578/1x1.html

i am Z and hit c- last season,i know every single bloody BO that JD used be4 and i still screwed.I know what u are going to tell me now
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practice like 50 games and become JD :p

lol no i dont play more than 5 hrs per day.After slumping like crap this week,i decided to switch to toss.I tried to switch to toss last season but still uncomfortable so i play back my Z.After today's slump i decided to switch to toss.....

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feeling sad now .....T_T_T_T__T___TTTTT______T


*
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 17 2009 13:37 GMT
#2
Stay strong. Don't give in. DON'T DO IT.
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 17 2009 13:44 GMT
#3
jaedong's builds don't work for you because they rely on his savage mutalisk control

why don't you think before you act, if you're going to imitate a build order use a build order that doesn't require skills you don't have
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
July 17 2009 13:46 GMT
#4
by jaedong buildorder, you mean 2hatch muta?..
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Terranlisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Singapore1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 13:53:20
July 17 2009 13:52 GMT
#5
NOOOO don't turn to the darkside
and why are you a z when your icon is a marine
aka myheronoob
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
July 17 2009 14:08 GMT
#6
I hear terran is mighty cool these days... just throwing it out there.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 14:17:16
July 17 2009 14:16 GMT
#7
On July 17 2009 22:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
jaedong's builds don't work for you because they rely on his savage mutalisk control

why don't you think before you act, if you're going to imitate a build order use a build order that doesn't require skills you don't have

its the exact reason why i dont even try fantasy's build in tvp yet. Need to learn to stand before you can walk and walk before you run. Step by step.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
July 17 2009 14:19 GMT
#8
Stick with Zerg or try Terran. You'll get a lot more satisfaction when you win and improve with those races.

Besides less protoss on iccup the better
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 14:37:25
July 17 2009 14:32 GMT
#9
I hear terran is mighty cool these days... just throwing it out there.


yeah mech sucks...and imba mnms

the list goes on and on
normal mnms + infnite scans
mnm + turret >>> 9000 mutas
tanks > lurks
tanks > sunken
vessel > lurks and ultras
valk = cosair > mutas and ovys
2 port wraith leta build > my drones
biomech [i have got pwned by this]


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Besides less protoss on iccup the better


LOL
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
July 17 2009 14:46 GMT
#10
You may be very dissapointed when Bisus BOs wont work for you as a toss. Keep playing as a Zerg, or switch to toss if it is more fun for you. Ass long as its fun its ok, just dont excpect to jump to B just because you switched to toss.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 17 2009 15:02 GMT
#11
REALLY the iccup don't need another protoss, stay strong man.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 17 2009 16:27 GMT
#12
Play both, focusing on ZvP and PvZ until you know it inside and out.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
pinenamu
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States770 Posts
July 17 2009 16:46 GMT
#13
get the hell away from protoss if you're going to call it 1a2a3a
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
July 17 2009 16:48 GMT
#14
Don't do it... Serve the Hive...
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
July 17 2009 17:07 GMT
#15
Don't follow player-specific build orders. They require better micro/macro/decision-making/understanding of the game as a whole. Try following the standard builds, it's easier.

Protoss sucks, don't do it.

Or I'll make sure I hunt you down. Every day. EVERY DAY.
POGGERS
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
July 17 2009 17:18 GMT
#16
On July 17 2009 22:44 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
jaedong's builds don't work for you because they rely on his savage mutalisk control


This.

Alot of pro zerg strategies rely on their awesome muta control. That's a big reason they always open up with muta first
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-17 18:04:27
July 17 2009 17:52 GMT
#17
I thought this shit was bannable? admins goin' soft.

going 2-2 at D level is not a reason to switch to protoss by the way lol
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 17 2009 17:59 GMT
#18
1/5 for the title, die!
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Aiur does not want you among its servants.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
July 17 2009 18:09 GMT
#19
On July 18 2009 02:52 inertinept wrote:
I thought this shit was bannable?


This

Also, don't switch races just because you hit a roadblock.. just try easier builds than ones that require progamer control. Look for some standard builds in the wiki.
Legends never gg
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
July 17 2009 19:44 GMT
#20
whats wrong with protos.
theyre cool

welcome to the winning side
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