Iccup and laggy koreans?

Shauni

4040 Posts

July 01 2009 17:55 GMT

Yeah... so I've been trying to play mostly on the korean hours, but so far it's been a failure. As soon as I hit B, there's almost only koreans playing, and they are really picky about playing on low latency.
A while ago, it wasn't really a problem and it didn't lag on low latency, only with some koreans I had to pick high. Now, however I have to put extra high all the time, and 80% of them just leave instantly which makes it very frustrating to get games past B level. The massgamers with 300-300 stats doesn't seem to care, but the rest of the koreans do.
Is this a problem for the whole nonkorean scene, or is the ping only high in some parts of europe (to korea)? Does it help changing ISP? How can ret, whitera and the other foreigners massgame vs koreans?

Doso

Germany744 Posts

July 01 2009 18:05 GMT

It's a general Internet problem.

zulu_nation8

China23240 Posts

July 01 2009 18:13 GMT

try playing after midnight in korea. Also you can try making deals beforehand like, "I won't build more than 5 sairs if you don't go muta."

Shauni

4040 Posts

July 01 2009 18:22 GMT

C:\Documents and Settings\Z>tracert fomos.kr

Tracing route to fomos.kr [118.221.122.238]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms gw2-no61.tbcn.telia.com [81.226.237.1]
3 21 ms 147 ms 59 ms s-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.126]
4 29 ms 29 ms 28 ms kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.248.49]
5 120 ms 120 ms 120 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.64.34]
6 121 ms 121 ms 121 ms nyk-b5-link.telia.net [80.91.253.106]
7 122 ms 122 ms 122 ms 206.111.13.89.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.13.89]
8 120 ms 120 ms 120 ms te-4-1-0.rar3.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [207.88.12.169]
9 205 ms 205 ms 204 ms te-3-0-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.25
]
10 204 ms 204 ms 204 ms te-3-2-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.14]

11 213 ms 213 ms 213 ms 207.88.12.46.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.46]
12 213 ms 213 ms 212 ms 207.88.14.46.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.46]
13 212 ms 213 ms 212 ms 207.88.186.34.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.186.34]
14 432 ms 430 ms 423 ms 58.229.15.77
15 424 ms 425 ms 426 ms 58.229.12.10
16 398 ms 406 ms 396 ms 58.229.12.82
17 404 ms 396 ms 408 ms 58.229.18.58
18 382 ms 382 ms 385 ms 118.221.122.238

Trace complete.

It looks like my ISP traces it through USA and then to korea, resulting in about 400 ping. Wouldn't it be quicker to move across Russia? Why the hell USA? Russia doesn't have fibre internet going throughout the country?

And how high ping is 'low latency' for latencychanger? I don't remember

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

July 01 2009 18:39 GMT

Your stream prolly causes some lag, sometimes it looks like you go extra high for no reason though.

Oystein

Norway1576 Posts

July 01 2009 18:44 GMT

On July 02 2009 03:39 MiniRoman wrote:
Your stream prolly causes some lag, sometimes it looks like you go extra high for no reason though.

How the game runs ingame and how it looks on the stream are usually 2 very different things. Often it don`t look laggy on the stream but its a pain in game.

Shauni

4040 Posts

July 01 2009 18:51 GMT

On July 02 2009 03:39 MiniRoman wrote:
Your stream prolly causes some lag, sometimes it looks like you go extra high for no reason though.

I thought the bandwidth consumed by streaming might have something to do with it, but no, it's the same thing even when I play without streaming. The stream looks more OK than ingame usually cause it's lower framerate.

I tried tracing another host in korea and it does it a little bit better. I think this is the reason why I do not lag on high latency with some koreans.

C:\Documents and Settings\Z>tracert ygosu.kr

Tracing route to ygosu.kr [211.239.167.148]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms gw2-no61.tbcn.telia.com [81.226.237.1]
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms s-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.66.13]
4 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms ffm-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.251.147]
5 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ffm-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.249.103]
6 135 ms 215 ms 216 ms verio-ic-128400-ffm-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.69.5
0]
7 57 ms 56 ms 56 ms xe-5-0-0.r20.frnkge03.de.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250
.3.221]
8 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms as-0.r22.londen03.uk.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.2
26]
9 123 ms 123 ms 123 ms as-0.r20.nycmny01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.2
54]
10 209 ms 215 ms 208 ms as-2.r21.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.1
90]
11 204 ms 204 ms 204 ms ae-0.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.5
3]
12 313 ms 301 ms 304 ms as-3.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.4.1
90]
13 345 ms 347 ms 344 ms as-0.r00.seolko01.kr.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.3.2
46]
14 340 ms 339 ms 339 ms ae-0.a01.seolko01.kr.ra.gin.ntt.net [129.250.16.
74]
15 351 ms 350 ms 351 ms 61.251.97.118
16 339 ms 339 ms 339 ms 211.115.201.84
17 352 ms 349 ms 348 ms 211.115.197.119
18 350 ms 350 ms 349 ms 211.115.209.244
19 336 ms 337 ms 337 ms 211.239.167.148

Trace complete.

Ziph

Netherlands970 Posts

July 01 2009 19:08 GMT

yeah its mostly the routing that makes people lag vs Koreans but also Chinese. Both can have sick fast internet but if the routing goes retarded you will still have these lag spikes.

unk.

111 Posts

July 01 2009 19:37 GMT

i think its cuz of finnish forest choppers who recently chopped out major fiber cable instead of a pine :-D

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