• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:56
CEST 01:56
KST 08:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
Soulkey on ASL S20 A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Pros React To: SoulKey's 5-Peat Challenge
Tourneys
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1474 users

Has anyone experienced this?

Blogs > ShinSa.NokCha
Post a Reply
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
May 24 2009 22:08 GMT
#1
I just recently came back to starcraft from taking a pretty long break because of college.

What i noticed was that i actually improved from taking a real long break o_O. Has anyone experienced this? My apm went from 170-180 to 200-215. Although i've mainly played python for my games, i feel like i understand the game alot better than i did before.

Anyways, is there any players out there who are willing to help me get familiar with the new maps? My iccup ign is NrG.NokCha so if theres any players out there who are C+++ that are willing to help me familiarize myself on the new maps thatd be great.

Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 24 2009 22:12 GMT
#2
Yeah, I've had the same feeling a bunch of times. Maybe not after REALLY long breaks, but after breaks at least.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
May 24 2009 22:13 GMT
#3
for some reason this happens to me a lot lol...
Life?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 24 2009 22:18 GMT
#4
there was a thread about this. One theory was that you care more about your games, but that care goes away later.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
May 24 2009 22:19 GMT
#5
That's how I got to D+.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
May 24 2009 22:23 GMT
#6
There's a scientific term for this phenomenon, but I don't remember what it's called. I haven't experienced it with playing SC, but playing cello and piano I definitely have. I've taken a 3 month break from the cello and when I picked it up I could play certain pieces I had a lot of trouble with much easier.

It supports the idea of everything in moderation, even the things that we consider "good for us".
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
May 24 2009 22:27 GMT
#7
It's related to functions in the brain. Example:

I play fighting games, and try to practice combos and stuff when I wake up/before i go to sleep. This allows muscle memory to "settle" in and gives your brain time to process the information, so after a while it feels more natural and your faster than you originally are.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 24 2009 22:31 GMT
#8
Hi nokcha! Your drawings are cute.

Yep I've experienced this before, but actually when I practice flute I prefer to just be hot hot hot.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 24 2009 22:32 GMT
#9
It's only related to muscle memory? Like technique/mechanics type stuff?

That doesn't explain a whole lot.
Hello
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28689 Posts
May 24 2009 22:45 GMT
#10
ive had apm improvements after long breaks but other aspects of the game ive had to sort of, re-get, especially with new maps.

but in games where im trying my hardest now i consistently have 200 apm, back when I was at my best I usually wasnt above 160.
Moderator
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
May 24 2009 22:49 GMT
#11
I think there are too many factors that come into play in SC to stick this on muscle memory. Like for example, why is it that when you try a completely different build your apm doesn't drop? Sometimes it actually goes up!
Muscle memory is extremely important in SC, but when it comes to what the OP is talking about, I think that when you play a lot you start playing a bit brainlessly (and sometimes even carelessly). When you come back from a break you're fresh and more focused.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 24 2009 22:49 GMT
#12
mmm nope i got worse

haha
ggyo...
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 24 2009 23:12 GMT
#13
yeah i've noticed after a short break certain aspects of the game feel more simplified, i guess you've just had time to process the game more
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 24 2009 23:29 GMT
#14
Many times, not only do I play better, I have more fun too.

Well at first you're kinda sloppy and mess up a lot but it comes back quickly, at least for me.
No I'm never serious.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 24 2009 23:47 GMT
#15
That happens to me from time to time
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
May 25 2009 00:46 GMT
#16
Happens to me also.
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
May 25 2009 01:37 GMT
#17
Yeah I do this all the time. Taking a week or so break from the game, and thinking about it rather than playing it, really helps you understand matchups better, and keep your head while you're ingame. Thinking about your mechanics can improve them too.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 25 2009 02:20 GMT
#18
I like to think of it as the stuff you learned has to be given time to sink into your head so that you can understnad and play faster with a more mental-esque about your moves. I sometimes convince myself that its good to have breaks and therefore I take a bit too many extended ones ^^
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
19:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Spirit vs PercivalLIVE!
Cham vs TBD
ByuN vs Jumy
SteadfastSC1229
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 1229
Nathanias 100
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1909
Artosis 686
Shuttle 459
NaDa 48
Dota 2
monkeys_forever930
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m1433
Stewie2K560
Fnx 444
Other Games
summit1g6464
Grubby3381
FrodaN955
C9.Mang0240
ToD226
JimRising 221
NeuroSwarm157
Maynarde108
Trikslyr53
ViBE39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick624
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1302
• Scarra1285
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
10h 4m
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
Map Test Tournament
11h 4m
The PondCast
13h 4m
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.