• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:20
CET 21:20
KST 05:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night
Brood War
General
The top three worst maps of all time Foreign Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data analysis on 70 million replays BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1601 users

Hypothetical Question

Blogs > teh.pwnerer
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
teh.pwnerer
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada110 Posts
August 27 2008 00:03 GMT
#1
A madman has you locked up in a room, and has kidnapped thousands of people in a large warehouse. He puts a button in front of you, and tells you:

"If you push the button, 2000 people die. If you do not push the button, 2001 people die. You have one hour to decide."

You assume this man means business. So what do you do, and why?

(By the way I did not come up with this, I remember seeing it somewhere.)



Mass Dark Archons FTW
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
August 27 2008 00:05 GMT
#2
Don't push it. It gives you longer to think of a way to stop it, also with the chance of him bluffing, not pushing is definitely the best choice because it buys you more time for something to happen to stop it.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
August 27 2008 00:09 GMT
#3
can it be 2000 or 2001 ill babies?
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
August 27 2008 00:18 GMT
#4
On August 27 2008 09:05 Hurricane wrote:
Don't push it. It gives you longer to think of a way to stop it, also with the chance of him bluffing, not pushing is definitely the best choice because it buys you more time for something to happen to stop it.


I agree with what you're saying, but the problem becomes more complicated since there are so many unknown variables. Assuming that the man is as dangerous as he seems, he's most likely capable of pulling something within the one hour, so you might not have as long a time as you think. Plus, there are always the bizzare possibilities such as there's a certain timing to when to push the button to limit casualties. I don't know though, I might be missing something within the information presented, but that's all I can immediately come up with.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
August 27 2008 00:22 GMT
#5
I think the difference between 2001 and 2000 is small enough (very harsh, I know) that I could better live with myself if 2001 deaths were caused by my inaction than if 2000 deaths were caused by an action I made when I had a choice not to. This is all, of course, assuming that there is no way to cheat the system. However, given different numbers/situations, I could see myself changing my mind.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
August 27 2008 00:25 GMT
#6
kick him in the nuts
take button
shove down throat

GG

in all seriousness, I would probably not press the button, because I would guess he is bluffing as he has no way to do so.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 27 2008 00:26 GMT
#7
try to get out.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
August 27 2008 00:26 GMT
#8
Well, when I first read it, it sounded like a threat (IF YOU DON"T PRESS IT YOU"LL DIE TOO, hence the 2001). But, if that isn't the case, I'd wait, and then I'd not press it at the chance that he's bluffing.
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
August 27 2008 00:32 GMT
#9
A. Flip a coin. Best of three. If you don't have a coin, flip the button. If it presses itself when it lands, then awesome.
B. Complain of a faulty button and ask to contact his manager.
C. Masturbate.
D. All of the above.

This is what the SAT's trained you for, choose wisely.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
August 27 2008 00:32 GMT
#10
Semi-related, this reminded me of this video.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
August 27 2008 00:33 GMT
#11
I do nothing, I dont believe in helding somebody responsible for lack of action.
kleenexboxman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States2 Posts
August 27 2008 00:37 GMT
#12
No deal
thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
August 27 2008 00:44 GMT
#13
you should specify the room, cuz I could get out through the window or something.
Obama singing "Kick Ass" Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedde
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-27 00:47:00
August 27 2008 00:46 GMT
#14
push the button, so i can save one person at least, otherwise they are all dead? what kind of question is this? lol, unless there's like a way to persuade the guy in an hour to free everybody yay!
SNSD fan
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
August 27 2008 00:49 GMT
#15
If I know for a fact that there's no way around the situation, then I will press the button at the very end of the hour.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
August 27 2008 00:50 GMT
#16
On August 27 2008 09:05 Hurricane wrote:
Don't push it. It gives you longer to think of a way to stop it, also with the chance of him bluffing, not pushing is definitely the best choice because it buys you more time for something to happen to stop it.


That's true. If there's even a tiny chance he's bluffing/has a heart attack/you all get saved or whatever, you've got a higher EV. Either way, if you choose to push the button, don't do it until the last possible moment to maximize the chance that something interferes.

But I assume the intent of the question is to ask "would you kill 2000 people to save 2001 people?" As if you should carry some heavy burden for pressing the button. In that respect, my answer is press the button, easy.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
August 27 2008 00:51 GMT
#17
Do nothing of course.
Oh no
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
August 27 2008 00:52 GMT
#18
i feel like this question has such an obvious answer, unless you specify something like that theres a gun on the floor that can be picked up within 5ft or w/e.
SNSD fan
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
August 27 2008 01:01 GMT
#19
I'm going to make the assumption that this room is underground, thick concrete walls, a door locked form the outside and absolutely no way to escape.. I would think about it.. alot....

I wouldn't press the button until the time is nearly up. Assuming the police are onto this I would stall for as long as possible and then probably press the button. If you think of it either way ur killing atleast 2000 people. If you don't press it 2001 will die due to your stubbornness and weak conscious, if you push it, 2000 people will die that were inevitably going to die anyway.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 27 2008 01:05 GMT
#20
On August 27 2008 10:01 freedom yay wrote:
I'm going to make the assumption that this room is underground, thick concrete walls, a door locked form the outside and absolutely no way to escape.. I would think about it.. alot....

I wouldn't press the button until the time is nearly up. Assuming the police are onto this I would stall for as long as possible and then probably press the button. If you think of it either way ur killing atleast 2000 people. If you don't press it 2001 will die due to your stubbornness and weak conscious, if you push it, 2000 people will die that were inevitably going to die anyway.

If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL 21
20:00
RO16: Group D
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 507
White-Ra 240
JuggernautJason180
ProTech135
BRAT_OK 84
CosmosSc2 51
MindelVK 22
DisKSc2 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 442
ZZZero.O 142
Dewaltoss 129
Hyun 63
Dota 2
qojqva4269
Dendi1077
Counter-Strike
fl0m6183
byalli654
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu441
Khaldor189
Other Games
Grubby3666
B2W.Neo902
mouzStarbuck345
ArmadaUGS150
Mew2King110
XaKoH 84
Livibee57
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV2394
gamesdonequick1307
StarCraft 2
angryscii 24
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 42
• davetesta23
• Reevou 7
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 31
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV558
• Ler112
• Noizen40
Other Games
• imaqtpie1565
• Shiphtur238
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 40m
Wardi Open
15h 40m
StarCraft2.fi
19h 40m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 40m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
WardiTV 2025
1d 15h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 19h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
WardiTV 2025
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Sziky vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs TBD
herO vs Zoun
WardiTV 2025
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Tarson vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-04
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
Kuram Kup
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
RSL Offline Finals
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.