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White_Ra's Bnet latency trick

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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 24 2008 05:06 GMT
#1
So everyone's seen the White_Ra FPVODs, educational, as well as Vo-one's translation, equally elucidating.

Thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=75402
Hard Link: http://www.vimeo.com/1392885

In the first 11 seconds, Ra does a slash command that gives him the latency of the two players.

The video's kind of unclear and I can't really make out the 2 characters that white_ra types do check latency.

I googled and couldn't figure out what it was, and I couldn't find it anywhere on the Iccup page.

Does anyone know of this command and how it works?

Thanks in Advance.

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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 24 2008 05:08 GMT
#2
on iccup?

/p
or /ping
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iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
July 24 2008 05:12 GMT
#3
Its /ping or /p, only works on iccup :D
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 24 2008 05:17 GMT
#4
So how does one decided on latency based on the ping? White Ra goes on to change the latency (based on the ping numbers, I'm guessing) from low to high.

Thanks again.
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
July 24 2008 05:24 GMT
#5
Probably just by what he considers high.

Like I would say 0-400=low 401-700=high 701+ = extra high.

I don't know, just using that as an example.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
July 24 2008 05:41 GMT
#6
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you
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Goosey
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-24 06:16:30
July 24 2008 06:15 GMT
#7
On July 24 2008 14:41 fusionsdf wrote:
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you


This is correct.

Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

edit: when i say 'laggy zergs' i just mean a zerg player who lags. Not a smear against the zerg race
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
July 24 2008 06:35 GMT
#8
On July 24 2008 15:15 Goosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 14:41 fusionsdf wrote:
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you


This is correct.

Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

edit: when i say 'laggy zergs' i just mean a zerg player who lags. Not a smear against the zerg race


Haha I didn't know that part about not being able to go back to LAN settings.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
July 24 2008 06:37 GMT
#9
On July 24 2008 15:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 15:15 Goosey wrote:
On July 24 2008 14:41 fusionsdf wrote:
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you


This is correct.

Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

edit: when i say 'laggy zergs' i just mean a zerg player who lags. Not a smear against the zerg race


Haha I didn't know that part about not being able to go back to LAN settings.

I remember reading that Chaos didn't work like this, as in Low High and Extra High are all new and different values depending on the latency you chose. Confirm / refute?
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Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
July 24 2008 06:39 GMT
#10
On July 24 2008 15:37 Ancestral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 15:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
On July 24 2008 15:15 Goosey wrote:
On July 24 2008 14:41 fusionsdf wrote:
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you


This is correct.

Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

edit: when i say 'laggy zergs' i just mean a zerg player who lags. Not a smear against the zerg race


Haha I didn't know that part about not being able to go back to LAN settings.

I remember reading that Chaos didn't work like this, as in Low High and Extra High are all new and different values depending on the latency you chose. Confirm / refute?

extra high on chaos is better than low latency with no chaos
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 24 2008 07:19 GMT
#11
In case of no packet loss the lower bound for the Latency should be half the ping to the other player not to the server. I don't know how close you can come to this bound with SC.
Also the ping command probably gives only the ping of every player to the ICCup server, not to the player.

On July 24 2008 15:15 Goosey wrote:
Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

The ingame latency settings should habe nothing to do with LAN Latency. The two Latencies multiply.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
July 24 2008 15:27 GMT
#12
On July 24 2008 15:15 Goosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2008 14:41 fusionsdf wrote:
ping measures ping to the server, not ping to you (90% sure of this)

so a high ping doesnt necessarily mean they will lag against you


This is correct.

Also be very sure you want to change the latency settings when you do on iccup. You can not go back to LAN Latency once you mess with the settings. Big reason why many laggy zergs on iccup will quit or call me BM if i change latency (since they can not go back to LAN lat, and therefore muta micro is not done)

edit: when i say 'laggy zergs' i just mean a zerg player who lags. Not a smear against the zerg race

holy shit, now we're being politically correct to races of starcraft as well!
Too much, no?
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